Anyone have their GenZ son convert to Trump?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Convert means they were something before. Actually, both my cousins are voting Trump. One is 19, the other is 21. Girl and boy.

Biden and Democrats have done nothing to tackle affordable educatation and student loan debt, they don't like the crime increase in cities, don't like inflation, and are concerned about the numbers of undocumented migrants coming into the country. They had no idea who random kids would be who'd show up in schools in their classes during some years and then completely disappear the next year. Supposedly one of the guys who was a sophomore in high school with them admitted to being something like a 23 year old guy. He could get in because he had no verifiable identity.

What was Trump’s plan for affordable education and student loans when he was in office? (ANd if I recall correctly, Trump University was a sham and had to pay $25 million, no?)

[Anonymous]

My newly 18 year old son is looking forward to voting for Harris. Trump horrifies him - for one thing Trump today told a crowd he didn’t mind if someone shot the journalists covering the event, and DH/his dad is a journalist.

A candidate who eggs on your father’s murder isn’t likely to win a boy’s heart.

And he thought the grab ‘em by the pu$$y was mind boggling. “How, Mom? How could anyone think that wasn’t totally disqualifying?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Convert means they were something before. Actually, both my cousins are voting Trump. One is 19, the other is 21. Girl and boy.

Biden and Democrats have done nothing to tackle affordable educatation and student loan debt, they don't like the crime increase in cities, don't like inflation, and are concerned about the numbers of undocumented migrants coming into the country. They had no idea who random kids would be who'd show up in schools in their classes during some years and then completely disappear the next year. Supposedly one of the guys who was a sophomore in high school with them admitted to being something like a 23 year old guy. He could get in because he had no verifiable identity.

Wow.

Biden and the Dems have done a ton to help higher education costs and relieve student debt, but they cannot "dictate" the cost of college.
Crime is generally not up in cities (it is in DC) and per capita, crime is higher in red states than blue states.
Inflation was a result of COVID and is back to where it was before COVID. Again, a president cannot dictate the cost of good and services.

For all of these issues, what are Trump's plans? How is he going to reduce costs or the price of education?

I am woe'd for the lack of education and critical thinking if this is how students these days are "doing their research"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Convert means they were something before. Actually, both my cousins are voting Trump. One is 19, the other is 21. Girl and boy.

Biden and Democrats have done nothing to tackle affordable educatation and student loan debt, they don't like the crime increase in cities, don't like inflation, and are concerned about the numbers of undocumented migrants coming into the country. They had no idea who random kids would be who'd show up in schools in their classes during some years and then completely disappear the next year. Supposedly one of the guys who was a sophomore in high school with them admitted to being something like a 23 year old guy. He could get in because he had no verifiable identity.

Wrong

Any Gen z voting for Trump was not educated period

There are very few of these idiots

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teen son is voting for Trump.

Socialism does not work.

What socialism? Sounds like "teen son" has been indoctrinated and has no idea what capitalism, socialism, marxism or communism are.

[Anonymous]

No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is only happening among those teens who aren’t achieving.

Citation?

Observation— the OP asked for our experiences. There’s only a couple of people in people in our circles who are facing this, and it’s boys who would have been fine in the 70’s-80’s because there was less competition (globally and domestically) but now are looking at achieving less than their fathers and deeply resenting it.

The Harvard-bound neighbor is out canvassing for Harris this weekend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Convert means they were something before. Actually, both my cousins are voting Trump. One is 19, the other is 21. Girl and boy.

Biden and Democrats have done nothing to tackle affordable educatation and student loan debt, they don't like the crime increase in cities, don't like inflation, and are concerned about the numbers of undocumented migrants coming into the country. They had no idea who random kids would be who'd show up in schools in their classes during some years and then completely disappear the next year. Supposedly one of the guys who was a sophomore in high school with them admitted to being something like a 23 year old guy. He could get in because he had no verifiable identity.

Wow.

Biden and the Dems have done a ton to help higher education costs and relieve student debt, but they cannot "dictate" the cost of college.
Crime is generally not up in cities (it is in DC) and per capita, crime is higher in red states than blue states.
Inflation was a result of COVID and is back to where it was before COVID. Again, a president cannot dictate the cost of good and services.

For all of these issues, what are Trump's plans? How is he going to reduce costs or the price of education?

I am woe'd for the lack of education and critical thinking if this is how students these days are "doing their research"

If the Biden government thought they could eliminate student debt, then the possibility of dictating the cost of college should also be possible. It has been litigated on shaky terms, but why does an out-of-state student cost more to educate than in-state? When that out-of-state debt is then financed, it creates problems with repayment and then it must be reduced or eliminated through government mandate. Lower the cost of eduation by lowering the cost of out-of-state tuition or by raising the % of in-state students. Not a be all end all.

btw - crime is up. crime is also up in cities in red states where the population is mostly blue.
btw - if inflation is up bc of covid then most things trump need to be forgiven because of covid.
I'm afraid your critical thinking is also lacking.

Joy

[Anonymous]

No, my son doesn't have a negative IQ. Our friends and relatives run the gamut from religious conservative to communist. We are ALL united in our loathing of Trump.

[Anonymous]

Mine are leaning right. I think it's crime. They got mugged while walking in Georgetown. And that obviously made a huge impression.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Convert means they were something before. Actually, both my cousins are voting Trump. One is 19, the other is 21. Girl and boy.

Biden and Democrats have done nothing to tackle affordable educatation and student loan debt, they don't like the crime increase in cities, don't like inflation, and are concerned about the numbers of undocumented migrants coming into the country. They had no idea who random kids would be who'd show up in schools in their classes during some years and then completely disappear the next year. Supposedly one of the guys who was a sophomore in high school with them admitted to being something like a 23 year old guy. He could get in because he had no verifiable identity.

Wow.

Biden and the Dems have done a ton to help higher education costs and relieve student debt, but they cannot "dictate" the cost of college.
Crime is generally not up in cities (it is in DC) and per capita, crime is higher in red states than blue states.
Inflation was a result of COVID and is back to where it was before COVID. Again, a president cannot dictate the cost of good and services.

For all of these issues, what are Trump's plans? How is he going to reduce costs or the price of education?

I am woe'd for the lack of education and critical thinking if this is how students these days are "doing their research"

If the Biden government thought they could eliminate student debt, then the possibility of dictating the cost of college should also be possible. It has been litigated on shaky terms, but why does an out-of-state student cost more to educate than in-state? When that out-of-state debt is then financed, it creates problems with repayment and then it must be reduced or eliminated through government mandate. Lower the cost of eduation by lowering the cost of out-of-state tuition or by raising the % of in-state students. Not a be all end all.

btw - crime is up. crime is also up in cities in red states where the population is mostly blue.
btw - if inflation is up bc of covid then most things trump need to be forgiven because of covid.
I'm afraid your critical thinking is also lacking.

Joy

He woefully mismanaged COVID
1) he closed the forward State Department office in Wuhan charged with monitoriing exactly what happened.
2) he tossed the Bush/Obama Pandemic Playbook out the window thinking he "knew better"
3) he fronted stock market trades
4) he gave Putin detection machines that our hospitals could have used
5) He "shut everything down" but not for long enough to isolate the virus, and then
6) succumbed to pressure to "open things up" by Easter, so it was the worst of both worlds in terms of both harming the economy and then not mitigating and spread
7) he wouldn't repeat admonitions to mask up, distance etc
8) he suggested quack medicines were effective when they weren't

Really, other than "operation warp speed" which he hasn't mentioned once this campaign, everything he did was wrong, so yes, he deserves every bit of blame that he has received.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mine are leaning right. I think it's crime. They got mugged while walking in Georgetown. And that obviously made a huge impression.

Because a president is responsible for the actions of some two-bit criminals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Convert means they were something before. Actually, both my cousins are voting Trump. One is 19, the other is 21. Girl and boy.

Biden and Democrats have done nothing to tackle affordable educatation and student loan debt, they don't like the crime increase in cities, don't like inflation, and are concerned about the numbers of undocumented migrants coming into the country. They had no idea who random kids would be who'd show up in schools in their classes during some years and then completely disappear the next year. Supposedly one of the guys who was a sophomore in high school with them admitted to being something like a 23 year old guy. He could get in because he had no verifiable identity.

Wow.

Biden and the Dems have done a ton to help higher education costs and relieve student debt, but they cannot "dictate" the cost of college.
Crime is generally not up in cities (it is in DC) and per capita, crime is higher in red states than blue states.
Inflation was a result of COVID and is back to where it was before COVID. Again, a president cannot dictate the cost of good and services.

For all of these issues, what are Trump's plans? How is he going to reduce costs or the price of education?

I am woe'd for the lack of education and critical thinking if this is how students these days are "doing their research"

If the Biden government thought they could eliminate student debt, then the possibility of dictating the cost of college should also be possible. It has been litigated on shaky terms, but why does an out-of-state student cost more to educate than in-state? When that out-of-state debt is then financed, it creates problems with repayment and then it must be reduced or eliminated through government mandate. Lower the cost of eduation by lowering the cost of out-of-state tuition or by raising the % of in-state students. Not a be all end all.

btw - crime is up. crime is also up in cities in red states where the population is mostly blue.
btw - if inflation is up bc of covid then most things trump need to be forgiven because of covid.
I'm afraid your critical thinking is also lacking.

Joy

He woefully mismanaged COVID
1) he closed the forward State Department office in Wuhan charged with monitoriing exactly what happened.
2) he tossed the Bush/Obama Pandemic Playbook out the window thinking he "knew better"
3) he fronted stock market trades
4) he gave Putin detection machines that our hospitals could have used
5) He "shut everything down" but not for long enough to isolate the virus, and then
6) succumbed to pressure to "open things up" by Easter, so it was the worst of both worlds in terms of both harming the economy and then not mitigating and spread
7) he wouldn't repeat admonitions to mask up, distance etc
8) he suggested quack medicines were effective when they weren't

Really, other than "operation warp speed" which he hasn't mentioned once this campaign, everything he did was wrong, so yes, he deserves every bit of blame that he has received.

Bringing up masks and distancing and not recognizing the incompentence of the legacy NIH advisers immediately disqualifies you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mine are leaning right. I think it's crime. They got mugged while walking in Georgetown. And that obviously made a huge impression.

Trump mugged the whole darn country. Worst president ever and my sons will not support him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that Trump is making big inroads with young male voters. Has anyone seen their DS move rightward politically in the last year? Not really talking about conservative families who still vote conservative - but left-leaning families where the child is staking out a different position from the family. If so, what was the deciding issue or issues for them?

I wasn’t going to respond, but since nobody else is answering the op’s actual real question, I will answer too. My teen son is voting Trump on Tuesday. We are also voting Trump. I’m conservative and dh is more moderate, but still voting Trump. My son saw the changes in the economy and how horrible the country is being run under Biden/Harris and he is old enough to remember how good things were when Trump was president, so that is why he is voting for Trump. He is worried about the future of our country if Harris is elected. He is 18 and in his first year of college.