Anyone have their GenZ son convert to Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that Trump is making big inroads with young male voters. Has anyone seen their DS move rightward politically in the last year? Not really talking about conservative families who still vote conservative - but left-leaning families where the child is staking out a different position from the family. If so, what was the deciding issue or issues for them?

I wasn’t going to respond, but since nobody else is answering the op’s actual real question, I will answer too. My teen son is voting Trump on Tuesday. We are also voting Trump. I’m conservative and dh is more moderate, but still voting Trump. My son saw the changes in the economy and how horrible the country is being run under Biden/Harris and he is old enough to remember how good things were when Trump was president, so that is why he is voting for Trump. He is worried about the future of our country if Harris is elected. He is 18 and in his first year of college.

I hope he doesnt get anyone pregnant.

Why are you thinking about teenage boys impregnating people. Weirdo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

That's the problem you're talking policy when you should be talking ethics
You should have taught him character.

Yes, why on Earth does he think the Democratic party "hates him"? My boys (21 and 18( don't think that, so where did yours learn this? I'm sure it isn't from you, but where do you think that idea came from and why wasn't it effectively countered by the obvious facts all around him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

The current US president is a white male. All but one Dem US president have been white males. The current Dem VP candidate is a white male. In 2021, white men were 30% of the population, but 62% of office holders. While GOP is basically all white males, the Dems are still skewed heavily toward white males. How does he figure the party hates him?

"Democratic candidates, on the other hand, were 44% women and 32% people of color – still shy of a one-to-one match with the country’s overall demographics, but far more inclusive than the GOP’s virtual erasure of entire communities."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research

What demographic is missing from the DNC platform? I don't see dem politicans going for the white dude. I don't see the GOP explicitly mentioning white men in particular either despite making up much of their voting base.

It's like they're invisible from party platforms because some how associating with a white dude makes you racist or something. It's really really wierd.

Is the VP candidate invisible to you?

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Anonymous wrote:I heard kids talking about trump at a Halloween party. The great thing about Trump or social media is his antics are engaging young Americans in the political process. That’s a good thing

LOL. No. It just means they fell for bread and circuses.

They didn't fall for it, they are mocking him. They absolutely know he is a scary clown.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have a better understanding of the world and economics than women so it’s no surprise to me many are Republican

What??

Right? Men and women who actually understand economics are voting for Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

The current US president is a white male. All but one Dem US president have been white males. The current Dem VP candidate is a white male. In 2021, white men were 30% of the population, but 62% of office holders. While GOP is basically all white males, the Dems are still skewed heavily toward white males. How does he figure the party hates him?

"Democratic candidates, on the other hand, were 44% women and 32% people of color – still shy of a one-to-one match with the country’s overall demographics, but far more inclusive than the GOP’s virtual erasure of entire communities."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research

What demographic is missing from the DNC platform? I don't see dem politicans going for the white dude. I don't see the GOP explicitly mentioning white men in particular either despite making up much of their voting base.

It's like they're invisible from party platforms because some how associating with a white dude makes you racist or something. It's really really wierd.

Is the VP candidate invisible to you?

Don't look at the white man next to that woman.

Red is back, up is down. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS is a junior at Princeton. He’s a quiet Trump supporter and says many of his classmates are as well. It would be hypocritical to shame them for voting differently while also touting democracy.

First, no one can shame anyone. Shame is a feeling you have inside because of how you feel about the information you have before you. It is internal, not external.

Second, disagreeing with someone's vote is not "shaming" them. Saying so is a victim mentality (i.e., "You made me feel this way.") If you are confident in your vote, no one can make you feel ashamed of it.

Finally, if you understand Trump's platform to be anti-democracy, then it is not hypocritical to tout democracy and point out to Trump voters that they are voting against democracy. If the Trump voter is ashamed of that (and I seriously doubt they are), it's because they feel inside that they've done something wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

That's the problem you're talking policy when you should be talking ethics
You should have taught him character.

Thanks for that helpful advice. (Sarcasm, in case that wasn’t obvious). I’ll stay out of your parenting if you stay out of mine…

NP. The PPP is right. You and presumably your spouse failed your son. He is more concerned about policy than character and ethics. Does he not care how those policies will get carried out. I imagine he doesn’t have any sisters, so he would no have any concern for any man of power feeling emboldened to grab her by her genitals without any fear of repercussions.

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Anonymous wrote:DS is a junior at Princeton. He’s a quiet Trump supporter and says many of his classmates are as well. It would be hypocritical to shame them for voting differently while also touting democracy.

I honestly cannot wrap my head around this. These kids are obviously bright and presumably well versed in American history and the formation of our democracy. I don’t understand why they cannot see that Trump is not Reagan or Bush or even Nixon. This is not an election about conservative and progressive policies. It is about saving the people’s government from an autocrat.

Many of these kids come from wealthy families who Trump is promising to make even wealthier if he’s elected. It’s all about the $$$.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

The current US president is a white male. All but one Dem US president have been white males. The current Dem VP candidate is a white male. In 2021, white men were 30% of the population, but 62% of office holders. While GOP is basically all white males, the Dems are still skewed heavily toward white males. How does he figure the party hates him?

"Democratic candidates, on the other hand, were 44% women and 32% people of color – still shy of a one-to-one match with the country’s overall demographics, but far more inclusive than the GOP’s virtual erasure of entire communities."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research

What demographic is missing from the DNC platform? I don't see dem politicans going for the white dude. I don't see the GOP explicitly mentioning white men in particular either despite making up much of their voting base.

It's like they're invisible from party platforms because some how associating with a white dude makes you racist or something. It's really really wierd.

Is the VP candidate invisible to you?

The VP cannidate is a platform? I thought he was a human, not a set of words.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

The current US president is a white male. All but one Dem US president have been white males. The current Dem VP candidate is a white male. In 2021, white men were 30% of the population, but 62% of office holders. While GOP is basically all white males, the Dems are still skewed heavily toward white males. How does he figure the party hates him?

"Democratic candidates, on the other hand, were 44% women and 32% people of color – still shy of a one-to-one match with the country’s overall demographics, but far more inclusive than the GOP’s virtual erasure of entire communities."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research

What demographic is missing from the DNC platform? I don't see dem politicans going for the white dude. I don't see the GOP explicitly mentioning white men in particular either despite making up much of their voting base.

It's like they're invisible from party platforms because some how associating with a white dude makes you racist or something. It's really really wierd.

Is the VP candidate invisible to you?

Don't look at the white man next to that woman.

Red is back, up is down. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Is that VP cannidate advocating for whitey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My newly 18 year old son is looking forward to voting for Harris. Trump horrifies him - for one thing Trump today told a crowd he didn’t mind if someone shot the journalists covering the event, and DH/his dad is a journalist.

A candidate who eggs on your father’s murder isn’t likely to win a boy’s heart.

And he thought the grab ‘em by the pu$$y was mind boggling. “How, Mom? How could anyone think that wasn’t totally disqualifying?”

Your son sounds like a simp.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My newly 18 year old son is looking forward to voting for Harris. Trump horrifies him - for one thing Trump today told a crowd he didn’t mind if someone shot the journalists covering the event, and DH/his dad is a journalist.

A candidate who eggs on your father’s murder isn’t likely to win a boy’s heart.

And he thought the grab ‘em by the pu$$y was mind boggling. “How, Mom? How could anyone think that wasn’t totally disqualifying?”

Your son sounds like a simp.

Your desperation is showing.

[Anonymous]

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I think you need an English dictionary.

[Anonymous]

Likely, he and DH think that the Dems are hypocrites when touting democracy when they hid Biden’s decline and pushed Harris AFTER the primaries. DH believes it was the plan all along b/c anyone close to the WH knew Biden would not make it through to today.

In our house, open borders and crime are the biggest issues, followed closely by inflation.
I’m the (somewhat) holdout as I will be voting third party.