Anyone have their GenZ son convert to Trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DS is a junior at Princeton. He’s a quiet Trump supporter and says many of his classmates are as well. It would be hypocritical to shame them for voting differently while also touting democracy.

I honestly cannot wrap my head around this. These kids are obviously bright and presumably well versed in American history and the formation of our democracy. I don’t understand why they cannot see that Trump is not Reagan or Bush or even Nixon. This is not an election about conservative and progressive policies. It is about saving the people’s government from an autocrat.

I've found Republicans at ivies come in two flavors -- your blue-blooded old money types, and debate-club types who make opposition to others their entire personality. Neither have reasoned themselves into their current positions, so it's hard to reason them out. Alas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No they'd be homeless.

You would kick your own kid out for voting for Trump?

And they say Republicans are the domestic tyrants and fascists…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS is a junior at Princeton. He’s a quiet Trump supporter and says many of his classmates are as well. It would be hypocritical to shame them for voting differently while also touting democracy.

As a Princeton alumnus myself, I am not surprised there are privileged guys there who support the corrupt ignorant fascist. They assume they will be the privileged insiders and don’t give a shit about those who will be targeted and oppressed.

Mark Milley and Marie Yovanovitch are two of my classmates. They helped save the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

The current US president is a white male. All but one Dem US president have been white males. The current Dem VP candidate is a white male. In 2021, white men were 30% of the population, but 62% of office holders. While GOP is basically all white males, the Dems are still skewed heavily toward white males. How does he figure the party hates him?

"Democratic candidates, on the other hand, were 44% women and 32% people of color – still shy of a one-to-one match with the country’s overall demographics, but far more inclusive than the GOP’s virtual erasure of entire communities."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research

[Anonymous]

My son was starting to support Trump but I was an employee of Congress on J6. So I quickly had a discussion with him about J6 and he quickly supported Harris. He’s also started informing his friends of why Trump is unfit to be president.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

That's the problem you're talking policy when you should be talking ethics
You should have taught him character.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

I have asked myself the same question. But, I have concluded that Trump is so ridiculously bad that keeping him out of the Whitehouse is the more pressing issue.

This time.

After Trump is out of the picture, things may change.

I’m neither male nor Gen Z but this is exactly how I feel. Keep Trump away from the WH is issue number one.

After that, dismantling the stranglehold the progressive left has managed to get on our governments and institutions is next. That comes after Trump is gone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

That's the problem you're talking policy when you should be talking ethics
You should have taught him character.

Thanks for that helpful advice. (Sarcasm, in case that wasn’t obvious). I’ll stay out of your parenting if you stay out of mine…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that Trump is making big inroads with young male voters. Has anyone seen their DS move rightward politically in the last year? Not really talking about conservative families who still vote conservative - but left-leaning families where the child is staking out a different position from the family. If so, what was the deciding issue or issues for them?

I wasn’t going to respond, but since nobody else is answering the op’s actual real question, I will answer too. My teen son is voting Trump on Tuesday. We are also voting Trump. I’m conservative and dh is more moderate, but still voting Trump. My son saw the changes in the economy and how horrible the country is being run under Biden/Harris and he is old enough to remember how good things were when Trump was president, so that is why he is voting for Trump. He is worried about the future of our country if Harris is elected. He is 18 and in his first year of college.

I hope he doesnt get anyone pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

The current US president is a white male. All but one Dem US president have been white males. The current Dem VP candidate is a white male. In 2021, white men were 30% of the population, but 62% of office holders. While GOP is basically all white males, the Dems are still skewed heavily toward white males. How does he figure the party hates him?

"Democratic candidates, on the other hand, were 44% women and 32% people of color – still shy of a one-to-one match with the country’s overall demographics, but far more inclusive than the GOP’s virtual erasure of entire communities."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research

What demographic is missing from the DNC platform? I don't see dem politicans going for the white dude. I don't see the GOP explicitly mentioning white men in particular either despite making up much of their voting base.

It's like they're invisible from party platforms because some how associating with a white dude makes you racist or something. It's really really wierd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

I have asked myself the same question. But, I have concluded that Trump is so ridiculously bad that keeping him out of the Whitehouse is the more pressing issue.

This time.

After Trump is out of the picture, things may change.

I’m neither male nor Gen Z but this is exactly how I feel. Keep Trump away from the WH is issue number one.

After that, dismantling the stranglehold the progressive left has managed to get on our governments and institutions is next. That comes after Trump is gone.

Same.

Trump is the bigger threat today. But progressives are awful - crime, illegal migrants, rabid identity politics, destroying the working class. Give me something else to vote for than Trump and I'm listening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of today's young men grew up during the excesses of the 2010s, when woke/SJW/cancelling was especially toxic.

They don't have a memory of a time when liberals were the live-and-let-live guys and conservatives were mostly right-wing religious types.

This is my 22-year old son. He's voting for Trump for economic and immigration reasons primarily. (He's got a good paying job after graduating from college last May). We spend a lot of time talking politics, but I can't seem to budge him off Trump. He tells me "why would I vote for a party [the Democratic Party] that hates me."

I have asked myself the same question. But, I have concluded that Trump is so ridiculously bad that keeping him out of the Whitehouse is the more pressing issue.

This time.

After Trump is out of the picture, things may change.

I’m neither male nor Gen Z but this is exactly how I feel. Keep Trump away from the WH is issue number one.

After that, dismantling the stranglehold the progressive left has managed to get on our governments and institutions is next. That comes after Trump is gone.

Same.

Trump is the bigger threat today. But progressives are awful - crime, illegal migrants, rabid identity politics, destroying the working class. Give me something else to vote for than Trump and I'm listening.

Yes. I struggle to think of anything positive coming out of the progressives these days except they aren’t Trump.

[Anonymous]

I can't emphasize enough that there are a lot of moderate white guys that are voting against Trump/MAGA, but still feel vilified by the Left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't emphasize enough that there are a lot of moderate white guys that are voting against Trump/MAGA, but still feel vilified by the Left.

Hopefully that will change

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't emphasize enough that there are a lot of moderate white guys that are voting against Trump/MAGA, but still feel vilified by the Left.

Hopefully that will change

I hope so, but I’m skeptical. In any event, I voted for Harris but am by no means embracing the Democratic Party, especially the loony left.