MVA closed: switch to private virtual?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Again, please show us the recent data compared to all schools in mcps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might want to ask Jeff to move this to either homeschooling or private school forums. There's just been too much back-and-forth on the MCPS forum for you to get good information here.

What a joke... real homeschoolers can't have a conversation on that forum because of all of the people crowding on to tell them they are weird and abusing their kids.

Im sure there is a lot of good information on closed/private Facebook groups. This forum is not the best community for this topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

You yourself are saying that’s not relevant so why post it. What is your sick obsession and why are you so nasty. Current data says very different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

You yourself are saying that’s not relevant so why post it. What is your sick obsession and why are you so nasty. Current data says very different.

The data is the data. I know it looks awful for the MVA program but that doesn’t mean I’m nasty when I post a link to the data when an MVA supporter up thread said the data showing the failures of the program doesn’t exist. Don’t shoot the messenger.

And of course the data is relevant. Unless you just want to take the word of folks who claim that the data from the most recent 2 years of the program are basically the opposite of what the data were for the first 2 and show a miraculous improvement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

You yourself are saying that’s not relevant so why post it. What is your sick obsession and why are you so nasty. Current data says very different.

The data is the data. I know it looks awful for the MVA program but that doesn’t mean I’m nasty when I post a link to the data when an MVA supporter up thread said the data showing the failures of the program doesn’t exist. Don’t shoot the messenger.

And of course the data is relevant. Unless you just want to take the word of folks who claim that the data from the most recent 2 years of the program are basically the opposite of what the data were for the first 2 and show a miraculous improvement.

Its old data that was the first year of the school. Compare it to all MCPS schools. Should we shut down all schools underperforming and bad attendance? That might be 1/3 the inperson schools.

It is a good program. Sorry you are too selfish to see as you couldn't handle doing it for your kids or putting your kids needs first.

The MVA is gone. OP was asking for alternatives so your nonsense posts are not needed or relevant.

You must be so happy you advoated for the closure hurting kids who need it. Hope you don't think you are a good person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

Nailed it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might want to ask Jeff to move this to either homeschooling or private school forums. There's just been too much back-and-forth on the MCPS forum for you to get good information here.

What a joke... real homeschoolers can't have a conversation on that forum because of all of the people crowding on to tell them they are weird and abusing their kids.

Im sure there is a lot of good information on closed/private Facebook groups. This forum is not the best community for this topic.

It's best to go old school- written correspondence. I'm sure this (former) homeschooler would be happy to help:

David Turpin BJ1523
4A4R-3
PO BOX 3476
Corcoran, CA 93212

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might want to ask Jeff to move this to either homeschooling or private school forums. There's just been too much back-and-forth on the MCPS forum for you to get good information here.

What a joke... real homeschoolers can't have a conversation on that forum because of all of the people crowding on to tell them they are weird and abusing their kids.

Im sure there is a lot of good information on closed/private Facebook groups. This forum is not the best community for this topic.

It's best to go old school- written correspondence. I'm sure this (former) homeschooler would be happy to help:

David Turpin BJ1523
4A4R-3
PO BOX 3476
Corcoran, CA 93212

Grow up already. You aren't funny. You should get your mental health checked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

You yourself are saying that’s not relevant so why post it. What is your sick obsession and why are you so nasty. Current data says very different.

You've been saying that for months, but were never willing to show your "alternative facts." Look where that got you.

[Anonymous]

Aa county kept the virtual academy and it’s been a good fit for many families. I’m not dilute if there is a waitlist though, and you have to live in county

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

You yourself are saying that’s not relevant so why post it. What is your sick obsession and why are you so nasty. Current data says very different.

The data is the data. I know it looks awful for the MVA program but that doesn’t mean I’m nasty when I post a link to the data when an MVA supporter up thread said the data showing the failures of the program doesn’t exist. Don’t shoot the messenger.

And of course the data is relevant. Unless you just want to take the word of folks who claim that the data from the most recent 2 years of the program are basically the opposite of what the data were for the first 2 and show a miraculous improvement.

Its old data that was the first year of the school. Compare it to all MCPS schools. Should we shut down all schools underperforming and bad attendance? That might be 1/3 the inperson schools.

It is a good program. Sorry you are too selfish to see as you couldn't handle doing it for your kids or putting your kids needs first.

The MVA is gone. OP was asking for alternatives so your nonsense posts are not needed or relevant.

You must be so happy you advoated for the closure hurting kids who need it. Hope you don't think you are a good person.

Good compared to what? Certainly not when compared to real schools.

In any event, if the OP refuses to send her kid to MCPS, then why is she posting in an MCPS forum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aa county kept the virtual academy and it’s been a good fit for many families. I’m not dilute if there is a waitlist though, and you have to live in county

There you go, OP- move to AA County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

You yourself are saying that’s not relevant so why post it. What is your sick obsession and why are you so nasty. Current data says very different.

The data is the data. I know it looks awful for the MVA program but that doesn’t mean I’m nasty when I post a link to the data when an MVA supporter up thread said the data showing the failures of the program doesn’t exist. Don’t shoot the messenger.

And of course the data is relevant. Unless you just want to take the word of folks who claim that the data from the most recent 2 years of the program are basically the opposite of what the data were for the first 2 and show a miraculous improvement.

Its old data that was the first year of the school. Compare it to all MCPS schools. Should we shut down all schools underperforming and bad attendance? That might be 1/3 the inperson schools.

It is a good program. Sorry you are too selfish to see as you couldn't handle doing it for your kids or putting your kids needs first.

The MVA is gone. OP was asking for alternatives so your nonsense posts are not needed or relevant.

You must be so happy you advoated for the closure hurting kids who need it. Hope you don't think you are a good person.

Good compared to what? Certainly not when compared to real schools.

In any event, if the OP refuses to send her kid to MCPS, then why is she posting in an MCPS forum?

Please show us lasts years data compared to in person schools. Oh wait, you can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any great options have been identified that are equal to the MVA.

Equal in what sense? The high chronic absenteeism relative to in-person rates? The poor graduation rates relative to in-person averages? The significant gap in achievement results particularly for the youngest and poorest students as compared to in-person achievement results? The rapidly declining enrollment year over year?

Funny you are parroting the same words as Felder and yet none of that is documented.
Where is all that data?

Of course it’s documented.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2023/Virtual%20Academy%20FINAL.pdf

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Now parrot back the response of “well, that’s from 2 years ago and doesnt account for the miraculous turnaround that the program made in the last 2 years where it reversed all of these horrendous data trends, the evidence of which has been deliberately held back in a conspiracy led by MCPS office staff” or the “that data can’t be trusted because most of the smarter kids in the MVA decided not to take the standardized tests that showed how far behind the MVA is than in-person schools” or “why don’t we close YOUR kids’ school if it isn’t performing well”.

You yourself are saying that’s not relevant so why post it. What is your sick obsession and why are you so nasty. Current data says very different.

The data is the data. I know it looks awful for the MVA program but that doesn’t mean I’m nasty when I post a link to the data when an MVA supporter up thread said the data showing the failures of the program doesn’t exist. Don’t shoot the messenger.

And of course the data is relevant. Unless you just want to take the word of folks who claim that the data from the most recent 2 years of the program are basically the opposite of what the data were for the first 2 and show a miraculous improvement.

Its old data that was the first year of the school. Compare it to all MCPS schools. Should we shut down all schools underperforming and bad attendance? That might be 1/3 the inperson schools.

It is a good program. Sorry you are too selfish to see as you couldn't handle doing it for your kids or putting your kids needs first.

The MVA is gone. OP was asking for alternatives so your nonsense posts are not needed or relevant.

You must be so happy you advoated for the closure hurting kids who need it. Hope you don't think you are a good person.

Good compared to what? Certainly not when compared to real schools.

In any event, if the OP refuses to send her kid to MCPS, then why is she posting in an MCPS forum?

Please show us lasts years data compared to in person schools. Oh wait, you can't.

And explain why MCPS summer school is virtual if it such a disaster.