are "racist text message acceptable now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think todays kids are fighting back about the policing of language and calling everyone a racist.
What did they specifically say? Was it actually something racist or just a generalization about a specific race? There is a difference.

There is a difference, but I wouldn’t want my kid doing either one.

I’m glad someone at least agrees that there’s a difference. Because there is. The word racism has absolutely lost its meaning.

Explain the difference to me like I'm 5.

I suppose you could say a personal attack is racist but repeating a stereotype is just prejudice or bigotry. But those are just degrees of racism.

[Anonymous]

Yes, teens shouldn’t be racist, just like adults shouldn’t be racist. Whether they are in fact racist doesn’t change that they shouldn’t be, and their parents should teach them that. If you were racist as a teen does that make it ok for your teen to be racist now? Don’t make excuses for yourself or your teen. Racism is and has always been wrong.

[Anonymous]

I would tell him that if the words are questionable, then they shouldn’t be said verbally or electronically. In addition, anything electronic, whether online, in a phone chat or email, has the potential to leak and escalate. Unfortunately I feel that after Trump, racism has become more acceptable for many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think todays kids are fighting back about the policing of language and calling everyone a racist.
What did they specifically say? Was it actually something racist or just a generalization about a specific race? There is a difference.

There is a difference, but I wouldn’t want my kid doing either one.

I’m glad someone at least agrees that there’s a difference. Because there is. The word racism has absolutely lost its meaning.

Explain the difference to me like I'm 5.

I suppose you could say a personal attack is racist but repeating a stereotype is just prejudice or bigotry. But those are just degrees of racism.

See? You figured out the difference yourself. Stereotyping is generalizing based on race; racism is hating people or looking down on people based on race. Both are bad, and they are related, but one is certainly worse. I am the PP who said there is a difference, but I wouldn’t want my kid doing either. I think the PP who asked which one implied that stereotyping is not worth correcting, and I disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think todays kids are fighting back about the policing of language and calling everyone a racist.
What did they specifically say? Was it actually something racist or just a generalization about a specific race? There is a difference.

There is a difference, but I wouldn’t want my kid doing either one.

I’m glad someone at least agrees that there’s a difference. Because there is. The word racism has absolutely lost its meaning.

Explain the difference to me like I'm 5.

I suppose you could say a personal attack is racist but repeating a stereotype is just prejudice or bigotry. But those are just degrees of racism.

Well you explained the difference, but decided to call them both racism anyway. Which just proves that racism has lost its meaning. So thanks for illustrating, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would tell him that if the words are questionable, then they shouldn’t be said verbally or electronically. In addition, anything electronic, whether online, in a phone chat or email, has the potential to leak and escalate. Unfortunately I feel that after Trump, racism has become more acceptable for many.

And he'll say "Sure Mom" and carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think todays kids are fighting back about the policing of language and calling everyone a racist.
What did they specifically say? Was it actually something racist or just a generalization about a specific race? There is a difference.

That's a nice narrative you've built there.

The reality is that hate speech is on the rise. Check the government numbers on this ( if you are the sort that would believe the government.)

Naturally sites like Discord and other social media which were not made for kids would reflect this. And kids age growing up feeling that this speech is more acceptable.

Yeah when you widen the definition of “hate speech” it’s going to seem like it’s on the rise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think todays kids are fighting back about the policing of language and calling everyone a racist.
What did they specifically say? Was it actually something racist or just a generalization about a specific race? There is a difference.

There is a difference, but I wouldn’t want my kid doing either one.

I’m glad someone at least agrees that there’s a difference. Because there is. The word racism has absolutely lost its meaning.

Explain the difference to me like I'm 5.

I suppose you could say a personal attack is racist but repeating a stereotype is just prejudice or bigotry. But those are just degrees of racism.

Well you explained the difference, but decided to call them both racism anyway. Which just proves that racism has lost its meaning. So thanks for illustrating, I guess.

No it doesn’t in any way prove “racism has lost its meaning.” But your bizarre insistence on having a semantics argument says an awful lot about you, none of it good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe, but its more that at 14/15/16, everything is a joke. Or, maybe everything is an opportunity to get a laugh from your friends.

It's no different from when we were kids.

We live in a very diverse area of MoCo, and its the same across all the kids of that age. It's all racial jokes. And I think its totally fine. It's a way to give themselves power over all of it, and tbh, a way to show they are above. If you're white, and you're hispanic friend makes a lame joke about how bad you are dancing, and you make a joke about their parents being illegals, it demonstrates how they are above the fray.

Now, if it just a bunch of white kids using the n-word, that's different. But context really does matter. Especially at this age

I do not agree at all and I do NOT think "its totally fine." Joking that someone is a bad dancer is NOT the same as joking that their parents are illegals. Joking that their parents are illegals (whether true or not) is NOT something to joke about and is a form of racial microaggression. Microaggression is rampant and sadly most people don't even realize they are doing it. Microaggression is a way to "give themselves power" as you say above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would tell him that if the words are questionable, then they shouldn’t be said verbally or electronically. In addition, anything electronic, whether online, in a phone chat or email, has the potential to leak and escalate. Unfortunately I feel that after Trump, racism has become more acceptable for many.

And he'll say "Sure Mom" and carry on.

+1. Especially to the mom who is spot checking and saw this on discord.

Context matters and my conversation would be more generic about watching what you are putting online anywhere because it can be taken out of context and follow you for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think todays kids are fighting back about the policing of language and calling everyone a racist.
What did they specifically say? Was it actually something racist or just a generalization about a specific race? There is a difference.

Spoken like a true racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe, but its more that at 14/15/16, everything is a joke. Or, maybe everything is an opportunity to get a laugh from your friends.

It's no different from when we were kids.

We live in a very diverse area of MoCo, and its the same across all the kids of that age. It's all racial jokes. And I think its totally fine. It's a way to give themselves power over all of it, and tbh, a way to show they are above. If you're white, and you're hispanic friend makes a lame joke about how bad you are dancing, and you make a joke about their parents being illegals, it demonstrates how they are above the fray.

Now, if it just a bunch of white kids using the n-word, that's different. But context really does matter. Especially at this age

I do not agree at all and I do NOT think "its totally fine." Joking that someone is a bad dancer is NOT the same as joking that their parents are illegals. Joking that their parents are illegals (whether true or not) is NOT something to joke about and is a form of racial microaggression. Microaggression is rampant and sadly most people don't even realize they are doing it. Microaggression is a way to "give themselves power" as you say above.

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree. These kids are the best of friends.

When the Korean kid gets a text from his mom and says "I gotta go home for dinner" and the AA kid says "oh what's for dinner tonight? Dog?". Its totally fine.

Its these kids taking ownership of the racial stereotypes and taking away the hate from them. These boys are truly the best of friends and this is how they interact.

It's not a microaggression. It's not the AA kid taking the power from the Korean kid. Or the white kid taking the power from the hispanic kid. It's them, as a group, taking the power back together.

It's a good thing, imo. These kids love each other despite the adults always telling them how different they are from each other

[Anonymous]

parents (especially of teen boys)- your teens are being targeted by racist social media algorithms that normalize racist and other hate speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw my 15 year old discord message and now a lot of "I AM NOT RACIST BUT" then they said something racist about a race, it this common now? I just don't think they should be doing something like that.. Are all kids doing this or should I say something to him?

Not all kids are doing this and he probably wouldn't do it anywhere else but discord can bring out a different personality as kids are "hiding" behind a computer...

I would talk to him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think todays kids are fighting back about the policing of language and calling everyone a racist.
What did they specifically say? Was it actually something racist or just a generalization about a specific race? There is a difference.

Spoken like a true racist.

Being called a racist by someone that calls anyone who mentions race a racist doesn’t bother me in the least. Have at it my friend. Go ahead and take some selfies with your “hate has no home here” poster and feel superior.
Lemme guess - you live in an upper middle class white area? Any economic diversity in your kids school?
FYI - I do not. I’m over here in Ganglandia, getting along fantastically with all the multicultural residents here.