Penny pincher DD wants to study in Europe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She'll need to pay for her own residency program, right? So that might be something to consider, although obviously med school is more expensive.

I have had a couple of good doctors who practiced medicine outside the US and I think it's fine. We need more doctors in the US!

please explain?

never mind, sorry, I was confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does she plan to practice medicine?

In the US. The plan is to apply for residence here.

If that falls through, would she be willing to practice in the home country or another country that imports doctors?

no, not really. she doesn't hate it, but very much prefers to work and live in the US. she is a bit of a miser, and obviously, the cost of schooling is very significant even if she weren't. it's also a shorter program (6 years total) that starts after high school, with only one admissions cycle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does she plan to practice medicine?

In the US. The plan is to apply for residence here.

If that falls through, would she be willing to practice in the home country or another country that imports doctors?

no, not really. she doesn't hate it, but very much prefers to work and live in the US. she is a bit of a miser, and obviously, the cost of schooling is very significant even if she weren't. it's also a shorter program (6 years total) that starts after high school, with only one admissions cycle.

Is she certain she can get a residency in the US? It seems hard to believe she’d be 6 years past high school and be allowed. Or that those credentials would “count” in the US

[Anonymous]

Yes, she can do that.

But.

Medical degrees are not transferable from country to country, and they all require doctors with foreign degrees to re-take exams and residencies. That is NOT a negligible proposition!!!

My husband has an MD/PhD from a European country, and knows a lot of European doctors working in the US, some of whom chose to practice medicine here and retake their exams. The others work in clinical research at the NIH, or in biotech, like my husband.

So frankly, it's a chore. But if you don't have the means to pay for med school here, yes, it will shave off a significant amount of money. It might not add years at all, given that in many EU countries, you start medicine as an undergrad. But she'll have to stay sharp on her board exams, and know she has to find a residency here in the US.

[Anonymous]

all my doctors were educated abroad. I'm sure there's some hurdles getting residency here, but she can do her homework on that. I think saving money and living in Europe are two big pluses.

[Anonymous]

Go to NYU. Didn't they waive medical school costs? I remember seeing something about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, she can do that.

But.

Medical degrees are not transferable from country to country, and they all require doctors with foreign degrees to re-take exams and residencies. That is NOT a negligible proposition!!!

My husband has an MD/PhD from a European country, and knows a lot of European doctors working in the US, some of whom chose to practice medicine here and retake their exams. The others work in clinical research at the NIH, or in biotech, like my husband.

So frankly, it's a chore. But if you don't have the means to pay for med school here, yes, it will shave off a significant amount of money. It might not add years at all, given that in many EU countries, you start medicine as an undergrad. But she'll have to stay sharp on her board exams, and know she has to find a residency here in the US.

did they do their residencies abroad?

[Anonymous]

She's smart to be a miser. Med school debt is a major source of grief for US doctors.

The only thing that gives me pause is that you said the program starts after high school. So she wouldn't do undergrad at all? I would worry about maturity and her socio-emotional development. No one wants a Dougie Houser, MD.

[Anonymous]

Does the country matter for medical residencies in the US ?

OP: Are you willing to name the country ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does she plan to practice medicine?

In the US. The plan is to apply for residence here.

If that falls through, would she be willing to practice in the home country or another country that imports doctors?

no, not really. she doesn't hate it, but very much prefers to work and live in the US. she is a bit of a miser, and obviously, the cost of schooling is very significant even if she weren't. it's also a shorter program (6 years total) that starts after high school, with only one admissions cycle.

Is she certain she can get a residency in the US? It seems hard to believe she’d be 6 years past high school and be allowed. Or that those credentials would “count” in the US

we are not doctors. we do know some people from croatia who did this as immigrants. i.e. born there, went to school there, then applied for residency in the US etc. it seems to have worked for them beautifully.

the difference is, she is an american kid. i am also worried to let her live alone there. she would not be on campus, it's a different system, the exams are very demanding, there is no campus life, advisors, no sense of community, sport teams etc. there are also no general requirements or fun classes, it's all science and medicine. these are their first year textbooks (in english):

https://mse.mef.unizg.hr/app/uploads/2022/11/LIST-OF-TEXTBOOKS-1st-year-2022-2023.pdf

[Anonymous]

"let" her? Wont she be an adult?

[Anonymous]

I would not advise you. It is very hard to get residency for foreign educated (even you pass all the exams). She might look into like NYU or other schools that have low tuition for doctors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not advise you. It is very hard to get residency for foreign educated (even you pass all the exams). She might look into like NYU or other schools that have low tuition for doctors.

+1
I would not

[Anonymous]

My friend went to medical school in the middle east after completing one year of undergrad in the US. I thought it was a little odd when it was happening, but they returned and are a dr at a respected health system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go to NYU. Didn't they waive medical school costs? I remember seeing something about that.

Yes. If you think medical school is hard to get into, now try NYU with free tuition.
I mean it’s a great option IF you can get in.