CAIR bringing case against MCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

That’s not how CAIR defines it in the suit. They define it as a call for Palestinians to have free movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

Well that’s debatable. Many Palestinians claim its a call for equality and fairness throughout the state of Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

That’s not how CAIR defines it in the suit. They define it as a call for Palestinians to have free movement.

Ive yet to see any Palestinian in any position of leadership say that it’s a call for the destruction of the state of Israel, the people saying so are supporters of the Israeli gov actions in this war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

Ok? It's a political statement targeting a foreign country. If BLM is ok, then banning this seems like viewpoint discrimination and selective enforcement

Speaking of viewpoint discrimination, someone in the MCPS equity unit still has "whiteness is a system of oppression..." on her twitter feed but MCPS has no issue with that kind of racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

Well that’s debatable. Many Palestinians claim its a call for equality and fairness throughout the state of Israel.

so Palestinians want to become Israelis ?

[Anonymous]

The problem that MCPS will have is that it’s allowed other speech that could impair a teachers’ ability to carry out their jobs. The school system decided to take positions on political issues that had no bearing on educating kids and at the same time hired a lot of antisemites. It’s going to get stuck tolerating the antisemites because it also tolerated the other speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

That’s not how CAIR defines it in the suit. They define it as a call for Palestinians to have free movement.

Ive yet to see any Palestinian in any position of leadership say that it’s a call for the destruction of the state of Israel, the people saying so are supporters of the Israeli gov actions in this war.

and before this war? You think the from the river to the sea thing didn’t exist before October 7?

[Anonymous]

Political slogans don't belong in work email. Only question is whether enforcement is discriminatory.

One thing left and right can agree on was that the performative "Black Lives Matter" campaigning government and corporations was wrong, even though the reasons for that conclusion was different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

Ok? It's a political statement targeting a foreign country. If BLM is ok, then banning this seems like viewpoint discrimination and selective enforcement

Not just @ Israel, can be very intimidating to Jewish students in the classroom.

Why are you equating Israel with Jews? If you are equating a nation state with a religion, then do you support firing pro-Israeli teachers (which could be intimidating to Muslim students)?

DP. I don’t think Israeli teachers should be putting Israeli flags in the classroom or putting Israeli political slogans in ther school email mail sigs.

why are blm or lgbt flags allowed? During the 1992 election my economics teacher was literally cheerleading for bill Clinton in my Mcps classroom

My kid’s HS has a HUGE BLM poster hanging up in the hallway. So that’s allowed, but this teacher somehow violated a ‘code of conduct’?

Seems like selective enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Jeff cleaned up a bunch of insults and useless comments. How about trying for more substantive commentary?

The teacher was placed on administrative leave. That type of consequence is usually when there is a complaint regarding teacher interaction with a student(s) which needs investigation. If it really was only about the email signature, the consequence seems disproportionate.

But the report also says she was wearing a variety of pins and t-shirts that were overtly in support of Palestine. At the start of this conflict MCPS sent a fair amount of communications reminding staff that our community has people directly affected on both sides of the conflict. While we have the right to have our opinions, the first duty for teachers it to ensure that our classrooms are a welcoming place for all students. Our classrooms need to be neutral space and teachers need to maintain positive relationships with students.

As a teacher, even though I support her position, I am appalled that she was so insensitive to her MS students’ needs by dressing in what was effectively a threatening manner towards a subset of her students. Adults may be able to manage nuances of this situation, middle school students cannot. She was the adult in power in that room. Every Jewish kid felt unsafe. This isn’t about the email signature. There was more than that going on.

If you want to gripe about MCPS, complain that they didn’t have a good process in place to more clearly manage and communicate about the situation to the teacher at the time she was placed on leave. Complain that the investigation is taking too long. Complain that the principal didn’t address the concern with the teacher long before it escalated to whatever level of parent complaints triggered the administrative leave. Whatever the fault of MCPS in this case may be, it’s not differential treatment regarding email signatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff cleaned up a bunch of insults and useless comments. How about trying for more substantive commentary?

The teacher was placed on administrative leave. That type of consequence is usually when there is a complaint regarding teacher interaction with a student(s) which needs investigation. If it really was only about the email signature, the consequence seems disproportionate.

But the report also says she was wearing a variety of pins and t-shirts that were overtly in support of Palestine. At the start of this conflict MCPS sent a fair amount of communications reminding staff that our community has people directly affected on both sides of the conflict. While we have the right to have our opinions, the first duty for teachers it to ensure that our classrooms are a welcoming place for all students. Our classrooms need to be neutral space and teachers need to maintain positive relationships with students.

As a teacher, even though I support her position, I am appalled that she was so insensitive to her MS students’ needs by dressing in what was effectively a threatening manner towards a subset of her students. Adults may be able to manage nuances of this situation, middle school students cannot. She was the adult in power in that room. Every Jewish kid felt unsafe. This isn’t about the email signature. There was more than that going on.

If you want to gripe about MCPS, complain that they didn’t have a good process in place to more clearly manage and communicate about the situation to the teacher at the time she was placed on leave. Complain that the investigation is taking too long. Complain that the principal didn’t address the concern with the teacher long before it escalated to whatever level of parent complaints triggered the administrative leave. Whatever the fault of MCPS in this case may be, it’s not differential treatment regarding email signatures.

Did MCPS release a statement to the parents of the kids at the school when they put the teacher on administrative leave?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

Well that’s debatable. Many Palestinians claim its a call for equality and fairness throughout the state of Israel.

so Palestinians want to become Israelis ?

Are you for real? Palestinians want to be treated fairly. (Incidentally what citizenship do you think Gaza Palestinians have?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

That’s not how CAIR defines it in the suit. They define it as a call for Palestinians to have free movement.

Ive yet to see any Palestinian in any position of leadership say that it’s a call for the destruction of the state of Israel, the people saying so are supporters of the Israeli gov actions in this war.

and before this war? You think the from the river to the sea thing didn’t exist before October 7?

Same thing as before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff cleaned up a bunch of insults and useless comments. How about trying for more substantive commentary?

The teacher was placed on administrative leave. That type of consequence is usually when there is a complaint regarding teacher interaction with a student(s) which needs investigation. If it really was only about the email signature, the consequence seems disproportionate.

But the report also says she was wearing a variety of pins and t-shirts that were overtly in support of Palestine. At the start of this conflict MCPS sent a fair amount of communications reminding staff that our community has people directly affected on both sides of the conflict. While we have the right to have our opinions, the first duty for teachers it to ensure that our classrooms are a welcoming place for all students. Our classrooms need to be neutral space and teachers need to maintain positive relationships with students.

As a teacher, even though I support her position, I am appalled that she was so insensitive to her MS students’ needs by dressing in what was effectively a threatening manner towards a subset of her students. Adults may be able to manage nuances of this situation, middle school students cannot. She was the adult in power in that room. Every Jewish kid felt unsafe. This isn’t about the email signature. There was more than that going on.

If you want to gripe about MCPS, complain that they didn’t have a good process in place to more clearly manage and communicate about the situation to the teacher at the time she was placed on leave. Complain that the investigation is taking too long. Complain that the principal didn’t address the concern with the teacher long before it escalated to whatever level of parent complaints triggered the administrative leave. Whatever the fault of MCPS in this case may be, it’s not differential treatment regarding email signatures.

Did MCPS release a statement to the parents of the kids at the school when they put the teacher on administrative leave?

I hate to tell you, but wearing pins or clothing that supports Palestine does not equate to Jews being unsafe. If I wear a keffiyeh or a pin that says “free Palestine” it doesn’t mean I dislike Jews or they should be scared of me. I feel like we are living in a world with a complete absence of critical thinking and nuance. And to respond to the above claim about “from the river to the sea,” it is NOT a unified call for the destruction of Israel. It is about a liberated free Palestine where everyone in the region has equal rights, but people want to continue to weaponize our slogans, our language etc. Glad CAIR is on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have no case. We’re specifically told not to write anything political in our signatures. He violated the code of conduct.

And they're alleging that that code of conduct was not enforced when other employees put political quotes in their signatures, which could give her a case.

This. Here's the complaint- https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ElHagganEEOC.pdf MCPS had no problem with Black Lives Matter in signature blocks. It seems like a selective enforcement of rules based on a disfavored political opinion

it’s a call for the destruction of Israel .

Well that’s debatable. Many Palestinians claim its a call for equality and fairness throughout the state of Israel.

so Palestinians want to become Israelis ?

Are you for real? Palestinians want to be treated fairly. (Incidentally what citizenship do you think Gaza Palestinians have?)

This person is being purposely antagonistic- they know that the main desire of Palestinians is to have the same rights as other human beings and not be treated like mosquitoes that are easily killed with no thought.