Why Aren’t More People Getting Married? Ask Women What Dating Is Like.

Anonymous
Who in general is more pickier? Men or women? The pickier group is more likely to end up unmarried. Simple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't find the source anymore, but I read an interesting article about how, historically, a good percentage of the population did not marry. They joined religious orders, joined the army, became educators, moved in with family to help out ... we have this cultural ideal that everybody pairs off, but that has never been true and, socially speaking, doesn't need to be true. Single people are a normal part of society.


Yep. I recently did some genealogical research and was looking at the US census from 1920-40. Lots of households list an unmarried aunt or an uncle (a sibling of one of the parents) living with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many women, myself included, do not want to be married. There are many reasons. 1. I can take care of myself. 2. I do not want to take care of a man (or a woman). 3. I don't want children in this world we live in. 4. GET OVER IT!


5. No one asked me to.


Actually 4 men have asked me to marry them


+1. Did you know them well?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read that piece and agree that there is some "male drift." Most college educated women I know want to marry professional men.

Also, sociology 101 shows that in populations where men are outnumbered by women, there are lower rates of marriage because men do not need to try to "lock down" women. Instead, they take the advantage of the availability of casual relationships, sometimes more than one at the same time.


Making up new jargon as quoted I'm the article to explain away the obvious that many women can't seem to cope with, and runs counter to the woke/progressive narrative peddled by the MSM, is not helpful. "Male drift" means what?

An obese unattractive unskilled unemployed or minimum wage baby mama in her 30s is.going to attract her male equivalent.

A professional woman in her mid 30s with a sketchy relationship history, emotional problems, attachment disorders, obsessed with feminism and woke politics, who is at best a "5" with a thick coat of makeup in dim lighting, but who believes she us too good for her male equivalent, is.going to be constantly frustrated.

A sexy attractive or even just average pretty girl next door type who is not overweight and actually likes men, does not have personality disorders or mental issues, and has realistic expectations in relationships, will have no problems at all. If she wants a good solid man for marriage she needs to be willing to have his children and raise them. Sure she can have a career but should be willing to prioritize caring for the children above that.

After all is she is looking for a family man doesn't she need to be a family woman?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't find the source anymore, but I read an interesting article about how, historically, a good percentage of the population did not marry. They joined religious orders, joined the army, became educators, moved in with family to help out ... we have this cultural ideal that everybody pairs off, but that has never been true and, socially speaking, doesn't need to be true. Single people are a normal part of society.


Yep. I recently did some genealogical research and was looking at the US census from 1920-40. Lots of households list an unmarried aunt or an uncle (a sibling of one of the parents) living with them.


A common term for unmarried males, mostly in states settled early on or those with a robust local industry, was Uncle Bunky.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

"Most people (men or women) who are still dating and never married by their late 30s-40s aren't partner material. (Emotional, psychological, sexual, commitment issues...)"

Either you are in your late 30s-40s and aren't partner material by your own admission or you are too young to know what you are talking about. In any case, your only meaningful contribution to this thread is some eyerolls.


Or I could be married, in a relationship, older, a widower, or previously married. Is formal logic not taught in colleges these days?

You might disagree with what I wrote, but the validity isn't necessarily connected to my age or relationship status.
Anonymous
I reject the premise that getting married is some optimal goal/outcome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I read that piece and agree that there is some "male drift." Most college educated women I know want to marry professional men.

Also, sociology 101 shows that in populations where men are outnumbered by women, there are lower rates of marriage because men do not need to try to "lock down" women. Instead, they take the advantage of the availability of casual relationships, sometimes more than one at the same time.


Making up new jargon as quoted I'm the article to explain away the obvious that many women can't seem to cope with, and runs counter to the woke/progressive narrative peddled by the MSM, is not helpful. "Male drift" means what?

An obese unattractive unskilled unemployed or minimum wage baby mama in her 30s is.going to attract her male equivalent.

A professional woman in her mid 30s with a sketchy relationship history, emotional problems, attachment disorders, obsessed with feminism and woke politics, who is at best a "5" with a thick coat of makeup in dim lighting, but who believes she us too good for her male equivalent, is.going to be constantly frustrated.

A sexy attractive or even just average pretty girl next door type who is not overweight and actually likes men, does not have personality disorders or mental issues, and has realistic expectations in relationships, will have no problems at all. If she wants a good solid man for marriage she needs to be willing to have his children and raise them. Sure she can have a career but should be willing to prioritize caring for the children above that.

After all is she is looking for a family man doesn't she need to be a family woman?




Great point!
Anonymous
My dating track record in DC:
Doctor that was emotionally unavailable/ possibly in a relationship with someone else
Indian grad student that was also emotionally unavailable / in a relationship with someone else he wasn't allowed to be with religiously
A classic abuser - love bombs you and hooks you in
Guys that lived with other guys well into their late 20s
CIA guy that was on assignments with ex girlfriends and hooked up with women all over the place
Indecisive guy that couldn't make basic life decisions but claimed to want to get married and have a family
Finally my husband.
I hated dating in DC. Awful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't find the source anymore, but I read an interesting article about how, historically, a good percentage of the population did not marry. They joined religious orders, joined the army, became educators, moved in with family to help out ... we have this cultural ideal that everybody pairs off, but that has never been true and, socially speaking, doesn't need to be true. Single people are a normal part of society.

+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many women, myself included, do not want to be married. There are many reasons. 1. I can take care of myself. 2. I do not want to take care of a man (or a woman). 3. I don't want children in this world we live in. 4. GET OVER IT!


5. No one asked me to.


Actually 4 men have asked me to marry them


+1. Did you know them well?


Yes, Incel, I did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A couple of points:

As a man I don't want to raise someone else's kids. (You want a good man? Don't have kids outside of marriage.)

Many women in DC are smart, that's great! But many are ~40+ and have prioritized their careers over family for most of their lives. I don't care about the status-level of my partner's job. I don't care how much money my partner makes. I do care if someone will be a good partner and can give me time and togetherness. (The DC area dating apps are filled with attractive, single, smart, 40 year old female attorneys.)

Women who are fat aren't attractive. (Most women who are online dating are obese. You want a good man? Have good hygiene, go to the gym regularly and diet.)

Women who are old aren't attractive. (You want a man? Lock one down before you turn 35-40. After 45 most women are invisible to men and you'll be stuck dating 60 year old men.)

Most people (men or women) who are still dating and never married by their late 30s-40s aren't partner material. (Emotional, psychological, sexual, commitment issues...)

Are looks important to men? Yes! And sex and a real emotional connection.

One easy fact about dating: if you want to find someone who will commit to you, date someone who is less attractive than you are. If you are a 6, date a 4 or 5.


Okay lady, you do not have us fooled. Lol you are definitely not a man writing like that. That sounds exactly like what a smug married woman would write.
Anonymous
“ Women who are fat aren't attractive. (Most women who are online dating are obese. You want a good man? Have good hygiene, go to the gym regularly and diet.)

Women who are old aren't attractive. (You want a man? Lock one down before you turn 35-40. After 45 most women are invisible to men and you'll be stuck dating 60 year old men.) ”

Ahhh so your husband will leave you or have affairs after you gain the baby weight having his children, and as you approach 45 years old. He won’t even consider you human anymore after the age of 50.

Ha, why is it any wonder that more and more women in America are choosing to stay single. The above sounds like a bum deal to me.
Anonymous
I never had a problem meeting nice guys. I think early on I had very ambitious goals so that was my problem. When I decided to lighten up I was lucky enough to find a guy who exceeded my goals especially as it related to being a sweetheart.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A couple of points:

As a man I don't want to raise someone else's kids. (You want a good man? Don't have kids outside of marriage.)

Many women in DC are smart, that's great! But many are ~40+ and have prioritized their careers over family for most of their lives. I don't care about the status-level of my partner's job. I don't care how much money my partner makes. I do care if someone will be a good partner and can give me time and togetherness. (The DC area dating apps are filled with attractive, single, smart, 40 year old female attorneys.)

Women who are fat aren't attractive. (Most women who are online dating are obese. You want a good man? Have good hygiene, go to the gym regularly and diet.)

Women who are old aren't attractive. (You want a man? Lock one down before you turn 35-40. After 45 most women are invisible to men and you'll be stuck dating 60 year old men.)

Most people (men or women) who are still dating and never married by their late 30s-40s aren't partner material. (Emotional, psychological, sexual, commitment issues...)

Are looks important to men? Yes! And sex and a real emotional connection.

One easy fact about dating: if you want to find someone who will commit to you, date someone who is less attractive than you are. If you are a 6, date a 4 or 5.


Well I sure hope you aren't old or fat. What a catch you are!
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