If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years

Anonymous
3.98 unweighted (school didn't do weighted GPA)
34 ACT
No hook (could be argued he had a anti-hook being Asian)
Did ED at a t10 - got deferred, and then rejected.

In the RD round - got into 4 top 25 (including 2 Ivies).

Had an unusual area of interest that he was able to build a story around as his volunteer work and internships anchored around that interest.
But even then, that story obviously resonated with certain schools but not with others. And of course so much is luck when acceptance rates are <6%.
For this reason, I recommend applying to a lot of schools - it did seem based on the results from his school that "reasonable shotgunning" works (applying to ~15-20 schools). His strategy was also to apply to 2 safety/targets he knew he'd be happy to go to, and then go big on all the rest. (versus having a more 'balanced' list).

Also - keep in mind recommendations - the one part of the application we don't see and therefore can't reasonably assess across students.
I surmise that these play a huge role in differentiating the sea of kids with top stats. And also help paint the picture of the type of student that particular school is looking for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.


- 4.7 GPA
- 1550 SAT submitted
- none
- EA (rejected then accepted)
Anonymous
I meant deferred then accepted.
Anonymous
How can any kid have a 4.7 WGPA? At least in FCPS, I don't see it humanly possible. With required non-honors courses. Can someone please explain?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How can any kid have a 4.7 WGPA? At least in FCPS, I don't see it humanly possible. With required non-honors courses. Can someone please explain?


Those kids probably did things like take gym and art over the summer in order to boost their GPA.
There's no competing with that level of crazy.
Anonymous
You are asking wrong questions op. Gpa relevant only with respect to peers. If within top one percent of class at a local public, an unhooked applicant has a decent chance at T15. If within top 2 to 3 percent at a top private or TJ, same. The extracurriculars you listed are “average excellent” meaning most top students will have similar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.



4.66 with 12 or 13 APs. LCPS.
No. Submitted 1420 SAT.
No real hook. But Virginia resident. Admitted to UVA.
Applied EA, I think. She applied to Brown ED and was initially deferred and then ultimately rejected. (Which I was secretly happy about).



Lol being from VA is a major hook for UVA. Duh.


I said the same and she had all UVA posts deleted.
Anonymous
The obsession with weighted GPA on here is ridiculous. I guess it’s because that’s what Naviance uses in its chart? But no school is admitting the 4.6 over the 4.3. It depends far more on what the kid took for classes and what else the kid did. Stats are pretty useless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.


How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.


+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.



Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service


M or F
Interested in STEM or nonSTEM
The stats are high enough…no college cares about a 1600 vs a 1560.

If M and non-STEM, competitive at any school.

There is no such thing as Exceptional ECs…there are “real” ECs like competitive debate and BS ECs like Honor Society. Tons that are in between at which a kid can do exceptional things even though the EC is nothing unusual.



Female
Real ECs - like debate , robotics , service, research, sports
Has diverse interests - could be STEM plus something non-STEM


Real ECs? People have gone bat sh*t crazy around here. Truly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.


How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.


+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.



Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service


M or F
Interested in STEM or nonSTEM
The stats are high enough…no college cares about a 1600 vs a 1560.

If M and non-STEM, competitive at any school.

There is no such thing as Exceptional ECs…there are “real” ECs like competitive debate and BS ECs like Honor Society. Tons that are in between at which a kid can do exceptional things even though the EC is nothing unusual.



Female
Real ECs - like debate , robotics , service, research, sports
Has diverse interests - could be STEM plus something non-STEM


Female and STEM is almost the same as Male and non-STEM...seems like she should pursue that angle if in fact it interests her as all the schools are too male heavy in STEM
Sports are a real EC, but if you are not recruited then likely not get as much recognition as leadership on debate or robotics
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.


How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.


+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.



Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service


M or F
Interested in STEM or nonSTEM
The stats are high enough…no college cares about a 1600 vs a 1560.

If M and non-STEM, competitive at any school.

There is no such thing as Exceptional ECs…there are “real” ECs like competitive debate and BS ECs like Honor Society. Tons that are in between at which a kid can do exceptional things even though the EC is nothing unusual.



Female
Real ECs - like debate , robotics , service, research, sports
Has diverse interests - could be STEM plus something non-STEM


Real ECs? People have gone bat sh*t crazy around here. Truly.


No, just differentiating between an EC that requires some true effort vs. an honor society that is BS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.



4.66 with 12 or 13 APs. LCPS.
No. Submitted 1420 SAT.
No real hook. But Virginia resident. Admitted to UVA.
Applied EA, I think. She applied to Brown ED and was initially deferred and then ultimately rejected. (Which I was secretly happy about).



Lol being from VA is a major hook for UVA. Duh.


I said the same and she had all UVA posts deleted.


Pp here. I did not. I prefer the bitter shrew harpies to be on display. Someone else must have reported the threads because Jeff has made at least two rounds of deletions and I imagine he’s tired of that shit by now.
Anonymous
All A's in FCPS - 14 AP's or DE or post AP even than you will not have a 4.7 GPA. So STOP provided imaginary GPA's here

9th Grade - 4.28 WGPA after 9th
Language 1: 4
English Honors 9: 4.5
PE: 4
Music: 4
Biology Honors: 4.5
Algebra II honors: 4.5
World History honors: 4.5

10 Grade - 4.39 WGPA
Language 2: 4
English Honors 10: 4.5
PE: 4
AP Biology: 5
Chemistry Honors: 4.5
Pre-Cal honors: 4.5
AP World History honors: 5

11 Grade - 4.52 WGPA
Language 3: 4
AP English: 5
AP CS: 5
AP Chemistry: 5
Physics Honors: 4.5
AP Cal BC: 5
AP Economics: 5

12 Grade - 4.64 WGPA
AP Language: 5
AP English: 5
AP Physics: 5
AP Biology: 5
Multi Var Cal honors: 5
AP US History: 5
DE CS: 5
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.


If your kid meets the minimum criteria (which can be viewed on each school's Common Data Set), anything is *possible* but maybe not *probable* no matter how fantastic your kid is.

My kid is going to a super reach (based on their stats/ECs, etc) in the T20 and we're still all floored they got in. Their acceptances otherwise were lackluster, but it only takes one yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED

Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.


How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.


+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.



Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service


M or F
Interested in STEM or nonSTEM
The stats are high enough…no college cares about a 1600 vs a 1560.

If M and non-STEM, competitive at any school.

There is no such thing as Exceptional ECs…there are “real” ECs like competitive debate and BS ECs like Honor Society. Tons that are in between at which a kid can do exceptional things even though the EC is nothing unusual.



Female
Real ECs - like debate , robotics , service, research, sports
Has diverse interests - could be STEM plus something non-STEM


Real ECs? People have gone bat sh*t crazy around here. Truly.


STEM for females has much higher admission chances, in general.
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