Substitute pay

[Anonymous]

You're pretty much a warm body in the room with a pulse.
No emails, no parents to deal, no meetings, no lesson plans or prep. You walk in and walk out. A gizzillion holidays in a 9 month span.

Yea, 18 bucks sounds about right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're pretty much a warm body in the room with a pulse.
No emails, no parents to deal, no meetings, no lesson plans or prep. You walk in and walk out. A
gizzillion holidays in a 9 month span.

Yea, 18 bucks sounds about right.

My brother’s district pays 150 per day for subs without a bachelors and 165 per day for subs with a bachelor’s degree. Fairfax should differentiate pay based on education level and teaching experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$19 hour isn't much. You can get paid that much at Starbucks or Target.

Maybe, but are they flexible to where you wouldn’t have to work evenings or weekends? I wonder if it is easy to get time off.

As a sub, just don’t accept jobs when you want to be off. I suspect it is not too hard to get a day of from Target or Starbucks here and there.

I realize that, that's why I asked about the ability to do that at a place like Target or Starbucks. I don't know how easy it is as a new hire to say you only want to work between the hours of 8 a.m and 4 p.m. and no weekends, for example.

[Anonymous]

The pay is definitely too low. I suspect the people arguing otherwise have never worked as a sub. If $19 per hour were "about right", there would not be so many vacancies every single day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$19 hour isn't much. You can get paid that much at Starbucks or Target.

Maybe, but are they flexible to where you wouldn’t have to work evenings or weekends? I wonder if it is easy to get time off.

As a sub, just don’t accept jobs when you want to be off. I suspect it is not too hard to get a day of from Target or Starbucks here and there.

I realize that, that's why I asked about the ability to do that at a place like Target or Starbucks. I don't know how easy it is as a new hire to say you only want to work between the hours of 8 a.m and 4 p.m. and no weekends, for example.

That’s why you specify those hours when you apply. Other people may want to work night and weekends. There is a shift for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pay is definitely too low. I suspect the people arguing otherwise have never worked as a sub. If $19 per hour were "about right", there would not be so many vacancies every single day.

+1, if it was so great, there would be a surplus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They raised sub pay two years ago. It’s something like $19/hour which seems like a lot especially given the flexibility.

Hahahaha. YOU try being a sub. $19 an hour is terribly LOW when you have to do it and find out how hard it is. Subbing should be paid $30 an hour to start, and licensed teachers should be paid $40. And then incentives should be offered on top of that for hard to staff schools, sped, etc. A school without subs might as well shut down for the day. You cannot operate a school without competent subs.

Schools all over the country operate daily without competent subs. Many subs are incompetent and often they operate without subs at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$19 hour isn't much. You can get paid that much at Starbucks or Target.

Maybe, but are they flexible to where you wouldn’t have to work evenings or weekends? I wonder if it is easy to get time off.

As a sub, just don’t accept jobs when you want to be off. I suspect it is not too hard to get a day of from Target or Starbucks here and there.

I realize that, that's why I asked about the ability to do that at a place like Target or Starbucks. I don't know how easy it is as a new hire to say you only want to work between the hours of 8 a.m and 4 p.m. and no weekends, for example.

That’s why you specify those hours when you apply. Other people may want to work night and weekends. There is a shift for everyone.

Thanks. I’m a recently retired teacher and I just completed my online application for subbing. I’ve looked at other part-time job possibilities posted online and noticed most list “weekends” and “evenings”. I’ve wondered how flexible the schedules might be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They raised sub pay two years ago. It’s something like $19/hour which seems like a lot especially given the flexibility.

It is kind of insulting next to bus driver pay.

(Not a sub or a bus driver, but see the need for both to be well qualified to do their jobs)

[Anonymous]

It’s one of the reasons I refuse to sub as a retired teacher - not worth it. I can easily make $50/hr tutoring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$19 hour isn't much. You can get paid that much at Starbucks or Target.

Maybe, but are they flexible to where you wouldn’t have to work evenings or weekends? I wonder if it is easy to get time off.

As a sub, just don’t accept jobs when you want to be off. I suspect it is not too hard to get a day of from Target or Starbucks here and there.

I realize that, that's why I asked about the ability to do that at a place like Target or Starbucks. I don't know how easy it is as a new hire to say you only want to work between the hours of 8 a.m and 4 p.m. and no weekends, for example.

That’s why you specify those hours when you apply. Other people may want to work night and weekends. There is a shift for everyone.

Yes, but you have to take that shift consistently. Subbing you can do whenever you want. There aren't many other jobs with that flexibility. I agree though they should pay more, but that's a taxpayer issue too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They raised sub pay two years ago. It’s something like $19/hour which seems like a lot especially given the flexibility.

It is kind of insulting next to bus driver pay.

(Not a sub or a bus driver, but see the need for both to be well qualified to do their jobs)

I think the same. I think both subs and bus drivers should be paid at least the bus driver rate (which I think is about $26 an hour). Bus drivers still get benefits since it's a daily commitment, so that's their bonus over the flexibility a sub has.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The pay is definitely too low. I suspect the people arguing otherwise have never worked as a sub. If $19 per hour were "about right", there would not be so many vacancies every single day.

+1, if it was so great, there would be a surplus.

It's a mindless, no commitment job, with no outside work (emailing parents, meetings, grading, lesson plans, etc).

What other job(s) are mindless, no commitment, and no work-related stuff outside of 8am-3pm?
The $18/hr is fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They raised sub pay two years ago. It’s something like $19/hour which seems like a lot especially given the flexibility.

My kids (10-13y) make more than that per hour umping little league baseball. ($50 for a 1-2 hour game). Adult/teen umps make more than the kid umps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They raised sub pay two years ago. It’s something like $19/hour which seems like a lot especially given the flexibility.

My kids (10-13y) make more than that per hour umping little league baseball. ($50 for a 1-2 hour game). Adult/teen umps make more than the kid umps.

Also … WTH is it with parents thinking you should much pay less per hour because of the schedule flexibility? Maybe a little less but saying a retired teacher working as a long term sub over a full time recent grad in the classroom deserves significantly less is BS.

That is always the implication even if not said explicitly on these boards.