Substitute pay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pay is definitely too low. I suspect the people arguing otherwise have never worked as a sub. If $19 per hour were "about right", there would not be so many vacancies every single day.

+1, if it was so great, there would be a surplus.

It's a mindless, no commitment job, with no outside work (emailing parents, meetings, grading, lesson plans, etc).

What other job(s) are mindless, no commitment, and no work-related stuff outside of 8am-3pm?
The $18/hr is fine

LOL. Such BS. I’m not a teacher but even I know that $18/hr to what do you equate with babysitting is BS. Many sitters make $20/hr to watch ONE kid. Difficult child? Add more money. multiple children? Add more money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pay is definitely too low. I suspect the people arguing otherwise have never worked as a sub. If $19 per hour were "about right", there would not be so many vacancies every single day.

+1, if it was so great, there would be a surplus.

It's a mindless, no commitment job, with no outside work (emailing parents, meetings, grading, lesson plans, etc).

What other job(s) are mindless, no commitment, and no work-related stuff outside of 8am-3pm?
The $18/hr is fine

Mindless? How?

[Anonymous]

I worked as a sub this past year with a Master's degree (in education). I had to prep (when a teacher had no plans), write my own answer keys, and was even asked to grade homework and classwork by one teacher in their note to me (while getting pulled to cover another class during the "planning" period). I was also expected to teach new content.

I did it for $18.50/hour (except lunch, that's not paid!) and did it as a stepping stone to getting a job as a teacher for the upcoming school year.

But I also met plenty of subs that knew zero content and basically just sat on their phones or read the paper during class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s one of the reasons I refuse to sub as a retired teacher - not worth it. I can easily make $50/hr tutoring.

Exactly. And that’s for one student, right?

It’s not like most of these lawyers. Estate lawyers mostly copy and paste text and half of the time don’t even get that right. Talk about mindless. Their work on that is worth maybe $20-30. From experience, a software app is money better spent than an estate lawyer to write a will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're pretty much a warm body in the room with a pulse.
No emails, no parents to deal, no meetings, no lesson plans or prep. You walk in and walk out. A gizzillion holidays in a 9 month span.

Yea, 18 bucks sounds about right.

Say you've never subbed elementary, without saying you've never subbed elementary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're pretty much a warm body in the room with a pulse.
No emails, no parents to deal, no meetings, no lesson plans or prep. You walk in and walk out. A gizzillion holidays in a 9 month span.

Yea, 18 bucks sounds about right.

Say you've never subbed elementary, without saying you've never subbed elementary.

You are describing a school board member, not a sub. The school members work about 8 hrs a year discussing actual academic, the rest is just fluff and they recently voted themselves a raise.

If you care about teacher pay, talk to the unions, they are the ones supporting the current school board clowns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should be giving extra for combat pay at many schools.

Hazard pay..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pay is definitely too low. I suspect the people arguing otherwise have never worked as a sub. If $19 per hour were "about right", there would not be so many vacancies every single day.

+1, if it was so great, there would be a surplus.

It's a mindless, no commitment job, with no outside work (emailing parents, meetings, grading, lesson plans, etc).

What other job(s) are mindless, no commitment, and no work-related stuff outside of 8am-3pm?
The $18/hr is fine

LOL. Such BS. I’m not a teacher but even I know that $18/hr to what do you equate with babysitting is BS. Many sitters make $20/hr to watch ONE kid. Difficult child? Add more money. multiple children? Add more money.

This is so true!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're pretty much a warm body in the room with a pulse.
No emails, no parents to deal, no meetings, no lesson plans or prep. You walk in and walk out. A gizzillion holidays in a 9 month span.

Yea, 18 bucks sounds about right.

Say you've never subbed elementary, without saying you've never subbed elementary.

Yeah really.

[Anonymous]

I think LCPS and PWCPS pay better which is kind of ridiculous. Why not pay more for a college educated sub? Schools would probably get better candidates and not just a lump sitting there handing out rainbows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think LCPS and PWCPS pay better which is kind of ridiculous. Why not pay more for a college educated sub? Schools would probably get better candidates and not just a lump sitting there handing out rainbows.

LCPS only pays $16/hour until you've worked 25 days that school year, THEN it goes to $19/hour. You get $22/hour if you work the day before a holiday.

And this is why most subs barely speak English.

Signed,
an LCPS sub/parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think LCPS and PWCPS pay better which is kind of ridiculous. Why not pay more for a college educated sub? Schools would probably get better candidates and not just a lump sitting there handing out rainbows.

LCPS only pays $16/hour until you've worked 25 days that school year, THEN it goes to $19/hour. You get $22/hour if you work the day before a holiday.

And this is why most subs barely speak English.

Signed,
an LCPS sub/parent

A lot of uber drivers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think LCPS and PWCPS pay better which is kind of ridiculous. Why not pay more for a college educated sub? Schools would probably get better candidates and not just a lump sitting there handing out rainbows.

LCPS only pays $16/hour until you've worked 25 days that school year, THEN it goes to $19/hour. You get $22/hour if you work the day before a holiday.

And this is why most subs barely speak English.

Signed,
an LCPS sub/parent

LCPS you only need high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're pretty much a warm body in the room with a pulse.
No emails, no parents to deal, no meetings, no lesson plans or prep. You walk in and walk out. A gizzillion holidays in a 9 month span.

Yea, 18 bucks sounds about right.

Huh, since it’s such a steal, they should have no problem getting more than enough people to sign up, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're pretty much a warm body in the room with a pulse.
No emails, no parents to deal, no meetings, no lesson plans or prep. You walk in and walk out. A gizzillion holidays in a 9 month span.

Yea, 18 bucks sounds about right.

Huh, since it’s such a steal, they should have no problem getting more than enough people to sign up, right?

+1. Yes that is ridiculous. They need to have different sub levels of pay based on experience and education so that they can attract better people and not people that barely speak English.