Alg I in 6th grade

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Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

You have no idea if this is true. It’s an untested course. For next year, our school said they will be teaching beyond the AP precalc curriculum.

Schools could adjust their AP PreCalc offering to make it more rigorous. But the underlying course, as designed, is not. 1) The exam does not cover the more challenging precalc concepts, placing some of them in an optional section, while concepts like series and sigma notation are omitted altogether. So if schools teach to the test, that will delay coverage of key concepts until the short period post-exam. Schools could adjust by covering more difficult concepts earlier and adding in more challenging content if they don't teach to the test. 2) The course does not assume prior knowledge of logs and spends a lot of time covering that. Again, schools could navigate around and compensate by shortening the Algebra 2 review. 3) The AP course is designed to be taught through modeling and applications which is time-consuming and limits the amount of content that can be covered. AP Precalc also has kids do regressions which are not needed for AP Calculus but presumably would need to be covered in AP PreCalc for kids planning to take the AP PreCalc exam. Again, schools could ignore this guidance and teach the regular (non-modeling) approach and cover more content. But at some point, if schools have to make so many modifications to make AP Precalc fit calculus-bound students, why bother with all this adjustment? Just have kids take honors precalc as before. Calculus-bound kids don't need an AP Precalc credit as they have the opportunity to get one the next year in AP Calculus. LCPS appears to have come to this conclusion which is why they say Math Analysis is needed for BC Calculus, not AP Precalc.

My point is LCPS should not let students take AB Calculus either after just AP Precalc. They should give the higher credit for the non AP and make it clear AP is intended as a 12th grade course.

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Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

If it is not sufficient preparation for BC, then it is not sufficient prep for AB The two classes have the same starting point.

BC covers about 50% more content than AB, so you need to start preparing for BC in precalculus. There is time to cover AB Calculus content in one year. However, if schools follow the time-consuming modeling/applications route for teaching AP Precalc, that will make it more challenging to cover all content which could impact kids' foundation entering calculus. Schools could opt not to use the recommended modeling approach, however.

It covers more material, but they in theory have the same starting point. Looks like with this AP Precalc, they would then have to cover additional precalc in calculus AB, and then catch up to the previous calculus AB curriculum. You do not need to prep for BC in precalc. It is just a matter of going faster in 12th grade. My high school calculus was just called AP Calculus, and everyone took the AB exam. It's only now that I realize it was pretty close to the BC curriculum. Schools around here could easily have enough kids that can handle the faster pace from the same starting point as AB.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Not true.

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Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

You have no idea if this is true. It’s an untested course. For next year, our school said they will be teaching beyond the AP precalc curriculum.

Schools could adjust their AP PreCalc offering to make it more rigorous. But the underlying course, as designed, is not. 1) The exam does not cover the more challenging precalc concepts, placing some of them in an optional section, while concepts like series and sigma notation are omitted altogether. So if schools teach to the test, that will delay coverage of key concepts until the short period post-exam. Schools could adjust by covering more difficult concepts earlier and adding in more challenging content if they don't teach to the test. 2) The course does not assume prior knowledge of logs and spends a lot of time covering that. Again, schools could navigate around and compensate by shortening the Algebra 2 review. 3) The AP course is designed to be taught through modeling and applications which is time-consuming and limits the amount of content that can be covered. AP Precalc also has kids do regressions which are not needed for AP Calculus but presumably would need to be covered in AP PreCalc for kids planning to take the AP PreCalc exam. Again, schools could ignore this guidance and teach the regular (non-modeling) approach and cover more content. But at some point, if schools have to make so many modifications to make AP Precalc fit calculus-bound students, why bother with all this adjustment? Just have kids take honors precalc as before. Calculus-bound kids don't need an AP Precalc credit as they have the opportunity to get one the next year in AP Calculus. LCPS appears to have come to this conclusion which is why they say Math Analysis is needed for BC Calculus, not AP Precalc.

My point is LCPS should not let students take AB Calculus either after just AP Precalc. They should give the higher credit for the non AP and make it clear AP is intended as a 12th grade course.

Agree. Calculus kids should take a precalc designed specifically to prepare for calculus. AP PreCalc would be a great course for 12th graders and was designed with them in mind.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

True at our school too, but what frosts me is how people use this as a golden ticket for programs like TJ, after excluding lower-income studnets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

True at our school too, but what frosts me is how people use this as a golden ticket for programs like TJ, after excluding lower-income studnets.

I see what you did there.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Aren’t you bored posting the same thing in every algebra thread on dcum?

What you are saying it’s not true, it’s not clear what test your child took, what’s the school policy etc. a lot of times parents use one datapoint to demand placement as if it’s an mandatory outcome. If your child is a true 290 on the MAP 6+ in 6th grade they’d be in the 99% of 12th graders and they would be tested on prealgebra, algebra 1 and 2, geometry and precalculus questions. Trust me that there would be no reason for your child to take Algebra 1 at that point. Most likely the child is bright, but nonetheless took MAP 2-5 that only tests arithmetic and not prealgebra, and is not a good indicator or algebra readiness. The school probably looked at more data points and coupled with the fact that likely you’re a pain to deal with decided not to accommodate your request because they assessed that it wouldn’t be in the interest of your child’s education.

They’re no public school that can educate the type of student you describe, only viable option is homeschooling. It just sounds like you have an axe to grind or making excuses.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Aren’t you bored posting the same thing in every algebra thread on dcum?

What you are saying it’s not true, it’s not clear what test your child took, what’s the school policy etc. a lot of times parents use one datapoint to demand placement as if it’s an mandatory outcome. If your child is a true 290 on the MAP 6+ in 6th grade they’d be in the 99% of 12th graders and they would be tested on prealgebra, algebra 1 and 2, geometry and precalculus questions. Trust me that there would be no reason for your child to take Algebra 1 at that point. Most likely the child is bright, but nonetheless took MAP 2-5 that only tests arithmetic and not prealgebra, and is not a good indicator or algebra readiness. The school probably looked at more data points and coupled with the fact that likely you’re a pain to deal with decided not to accommodate your request because they assessed that it wouldn’t be in the interest of your child’s education.

They’re no public school that can educate the type of student you describe, only viable option is homeschooling. It just sounds like you have an axe to grind or making excuses.

I think this is off too. Going from 260s to 290s while they are at home doing normal 3-5th grade homework and maybe some supplement just wouldn’t happen. I can’t imagine the type of out school work a kid would be doing to have these gains. My child has ranged from high 250s-low 260s in 3,4, and now 5th grade. So it is clear he has a high level of math skill but also hasn’t been learning anything new in a long time. We try at home, but we our best at home, it isn’t enough. I think ultimately he would benefit from being in an actual math class at school that is teaching him new material, which is why I’m considering alg I in 6th grade. I expect it to be a mix of some review and some new material.

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I think this is off too. Going from 260s to 290s while they are at home doing normal 3-5th grade homework and maybe some supplement just wouldn’t happen. I can’t imagine the type of out school work a kid would be doing to have these gains. My child has ranged from high 250s-low 260s in 3,4, and now 5th grade. So it is clear he has a high level of math skill but also hasn’t been learning anything new in a long time. We try at home, but we our best at home, it isn’t enough. I think ultimately he would benefit from being in an actual math class at school that is teaching him new material, which is why I’m considering alg I in 6th grade. I expect it to be a mix of some review and some new material.

From my experience: our child scored 275 on NWEA MAP 2-5 in 4th grade (due to Covid acceleration), got a raw 60/60 on the IAAT in 5th grade, perfect SOL - they're now completing Algebra I in sixth grade.
Although only about 2.5% of their cohort was admitted to Algebra in 6th grade, it's clear that some of the other kids shouldn't be there and a dragging down the level of instruction compared to what could be done. (They score 80-90% on tests that allow Desmos...)

Unfortunately, if I were you, I'd still be pushing for Algebra in 6th grade for the alternative of more school-level prealgebra is worse and a waste of time.

But I would have my child go deeper in prep: make sure they're at the mastery level of all Alcumus Prealgebra subjects, and potentially pay for them to take the online version of Prealgebra 1 + 2 at AoPS (or the in-person version if you can afford the money and logistics). We also did their Algebra A course when our child was in 5th grade. Then school-level Algebra I will indeed be mostly review and they can focus on working ahead on the Geometry and Intermediate Algebra, which we're addressing now.

Also make sure they participate in AMC-8, Math Kangaroo, and Mathcounts and engage in regular practice there.

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I think this is off too. Going from 260s to 290s while they are at home doing normal 3-5th grade homework and maybe some supplement just wouldn’t happen. I can’t imagine the type of out school work a kid would be doing to have these gains. My child has ranged from high 250s-low 260s in 3,4, and now 5th grade. So it is clear he has a high level of math skill but also hasn’t been learning anything new in a long time. We try at home, but we our best at home, it isn’t enough. I think ultimately he would benefit from being in an actual math class at school that is teaching him new material, which is why I’m considering alg I in 6th grade. I expect it to be a mix of some review and some new material.

From my experience: our child scored 275 on NWEA MAP 2-5 in 4th grade (due to Covid acceleration), got a raw 60/60 on the IAAT in 5th grade, perfect SOL - they're now completing Algebra I in sixth grade.
Although only about 2.5% of their cohort was admitted to Algebra in 6th grade, it's clear that some of the other kids shouldn't be there and a dragging down the level of instruction compared to what could be done. (They score 80-90% on tests that allow Desmos...)

Unfortunately, if I were you, I'd still be pushing for Algebra in 6th grade for the alternative of more school-level prealgebra is worse and a waste of time.

But I would have my child go deeper in prep: make sure they're at the mastery level of all Alcumus Prealgebra subjects, and potentially pay for them to take the online version of Prealgebra 1 + 2 at AoPS (or the in-person version if you can afford the money and logistics). We also did their Algebra A course when our child was in 5th grade. Then school-level Algebra I will indeed be mostly review and they can focus on working ahead on the Geometry and Intermediate Algebra, which we're addressing now.

Also make sure they participate in AMC-8, Math Kangaroo, and Mathcounts and engage in regular practice there.

It seems you essentially homeschool your child. Not sure why he’s taking 6th grade Algebra at this point, maybe for credit or because it’s the most accelerated path available at the school.

What is really rubbing me the wrong way is how you claim the other kids scoring in the 80-90% don’t belong to that class, when in fact it’s your own child that doesn’t belong there having already completed the material. You have the expectation that 6th grade algebra should somehow be modified to match your child’s level and not the level of the other students in the class that were placed appropriately.

Kudos to the kids that work hard, but sometimes the parents of these children are so insufferable and disparage other kids when most likely there are equally as bright, but just don’t have the early exposure to accelerate them along the math pathway.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Aren’t you bored posting the same thing in every algebra thread on dcum?

What you are saying it’s not true, it’s not clear what test your child took, what’s the school policy etc. a lot of times parents use one datapoint to demand placement as if it’s an mandatory outcome. If your child is a true 290 on the MAP 6+ in 6th grade they’d be in the 99% of 12th graders and they would be tested on prealgebra, algebra 1 and 2, geometry and precalculus questions. Trust me that there would be no reason for your child to take Algebra 1 at that point. Most likely the child is bright, but nonetheless took MAP 2-5 that only tests arithmetic and not prealgebra, and is not a good indicator or algebra readiness. The school probably looked at more data points and coupled with the fact that likely you’re a pain to deal with decided not to accommodate your request because they assessed that it wouldn’t be in the interest of your child’s education.

They’re no public school that can educate the type of student you describe, only viable option is homeschooling. It just sounds like you have an axe to grind or making excuses.

The child scored 250 at age 8 at the beginning of 3rd on the MAP-M for grades 3-5 and 290 on MAP-M for grades 6-8 at age 11. The child went on to place in the top 3 in several statewide math contests and qualified for AIME in 7th. Unfortunately, Algebra is a graduation requirement and you can't skip it despite the higher test scores. I mostly regret that being at a lower-income school deprived them of the same opportunities that are available to many others with less ability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

True at our school too, but what frosts me is how people use this as a golden ticket for programs like TJ, after excluding lower-income studnets.

hahaha

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Aren’t you bored posting the same thing in every algebra thread on dcum?

What you are saying it’s not true, it’s not clear what test your child took, what’s the school policy etc. a lot of times parents use one datapoint to demand placement as if it’s an mandatory outcome. If your child is a true 290 on the MAP 6+ in 6th grade they’d be in the 99% of 12th graders and they would be tested on prealgebra, algebra 1 and 2, geometry and precalculus questions. Trust me that there would be no reason for your child to take Algebra 1 at that point. Most likely the child is bright, but nonetheless took MAP 2-5 that only tests arithmetic and not prealgebra, and is not a good indicator or algebra readiness. The school probably looked at more data points and coupled with the fact that likely you’re a pain to deal with decided not to accommodate your request because they assessed that it wouldn’t be in the interest of your child’s education.

They’re no public school that can educate the type of student you describe, only viable option is homeschooling. It just sounds like you have an axe to grind or making excuses.

The child scored 250 at age 8 at the beginning of 3rd on the MAP-M for grades 3-5 and 290 on MAP-M for grades 6-8 at age 11. The child went on to place in the top 3 in several statewide math contests and qualified for AIME in 7th. Unfortunately, Algebra is a graduation requirement and you can't skip it despite the higher test scores. I mostly regret that being at a lower-income school deprived them of the same opportunities that are available to many others with less ability.

So why didn’t you move them to a better school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Aren’t you bored posting the same thing in every algebra thread on dcum?

What you are saying it’s not true, it’s not clear what test your child took, what’s the school policy etc. a lot of times parents use one datapoint to demand placement as if it’s an mandatory outcome. If your child is a true 290 on the MAP 6+ in 6th grade they’d be in the 99% of 12th graders and they would be tested on prealgebra, algebra 1 and 2, geometry and precalculus questions. Trust me that there would be no reason for your child to take Algebra 1 at that point. Most likely the child is bright, but nonetheless took MAP 2-5 that only tests arithmetic and not prealgebra, and is not a good indicator or algebra readiness. The school probably looked at more data points and coupled with the fact that likely you’re a pain to deal with decided not to accommodate your request because they assessed that it wouldn’t be in the interest of your child’s education.

They’re no public school that can educate the type of student you describe, only viable option is homeschooling. It just sounds like you have an axe to grind or making excuses.

The child scored 250 at age 8 at the beginning of 3rd on the MAP-M for grades 3-5 and 290 on MAP-M for grades 6-8 at age 11. The child went on to place in the top 3 in several statewide math contests and qualified for AIME in 7th. Unfortunately, Algebra is a graduation requirement and you can't skip it despite the higher test scores. I mostly regret that being at a lower-income school deprived them of the same opportunities that are available to many others with less ability.

So why didn’t you move them to a better school?

I think the point is they shouldn't have to. An issue that comes with TJ is how there are fewer kids who took Algebra 2 in 8th grade now that selection is less concentrated in a few wealthy schools. Acceleration is used as a golden ticket to these elite opportunities, but it isn't always available at all schools. A child could be a true prodigy but if they don't happen to live in the boundary of a school with these options they're out of luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Aren’t you bored posting the same thing in every algebra thread on dcum?

What you are saying it’s not true, it’s not clear what test your child took, what’s the school policy etc. a lot of times parents use one datapoint to demand placement as if it’s an mandatory outcome. If your child is a true 290 on the MAP 6+ in 6th grade they’d be in the 99% of 12th graders and they would be tested on prealgebra, algebra 1 and 2, geometry and precalculus questions. Trust me that there would be no reason for your child to take Algebra 1 at that point. Most likely the child is bright, but nonetheless took MAP 2-5 that only tests arithmetic and not prealgebra, and is not a good indicator or algebra readiness. The school probably looked at more data points and coupled with the fact that likely you’re a pain to deal with decided not to accommodate your request because they assessed that it wouldn’t be in the interest of your child’s education.

They’re no public school that can educate the type of student you describe, only viable option is homeschooling. It just sounds like you have an axe to grind or making excuses.

The child scored 250 at age 8 at the beginning of 3rd on the MAP-M for grades 3-5 and 290 on MAP-M for grades 6-8 at age 11. The child went on to place in the top 3 in several statewide math contests and qualified for AIME in 7th. Unfortunately, Algebra is a graduation requirement and you can't skip it despite the higher test scores. I mostly regret that being at a lower-income school deprived them of the same opportunities that are available to many others with less ability.

So why didn’t you move them to a better school?

I think the point is they shouldn't have to. An issue that comes with TJ is how there are fewer kids who took Algebra 2 in 8th grade now that selection is less concentrated in a few wealthy schools. Acceleration is used as a golden ticket to these elite opportunities, but it isn't always available at all schools. A child could be a true prodigy but if they don't happen to live in the boundary of a school with these options they're out of luck.

Unfortunately, the exact thing that all schools should have, access to advanced tracks/curriculums and other enrichment opportunities are the exact things that people will claim are some form of segregation and want to remove shortly after. You cant have acceleration without selecting some kids and not others. This will usually fall on lines of parental involvement and in part some natural ability, which only goes so far without parental involvement.

They will remove these opportunities and claim it hurts the less fortunate. And then they will say, we dont have these opportunities that wealthy schools have.