Alg I in 6th grade

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If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

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My friend's kid who's on that track decided that she's done with math in 9th grade. If they keep going, I think the end point for HS courses is multivariable in Junior year, and then they can take college courses for anything beyond.

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Look up the math course: for 12th, for 11th, for 10th.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

Geometry 7th, Algebra 2 8th, pre calc 9th, calc 10, multivariable 11th, duel enrollment 12th with a bunch of options that open because is seems like Calc 2 is the prerequisite to half of college level math

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In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

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Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

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Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

If it is not sufficient preparation for BC, then it is not sufficient prep for AB The two classes have the same starting point.

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Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

You have no idea if this is true. It’s an untested course. For next year, our school said they will be teaching beyond the AP precalc curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Even if it isn’t a formal option, as long as alg I is offered at the middle school the child is attending, I can’t see a counselor saying no.

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Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

You have no idea if this is true. It’s an untested course. For next year, our school said they will be teaching beyond the AP precalc curriculum.

Schools could adjust their AP PreCalc offering to make it more rigorous. But the underlying course, as designed, is not. 1) The exam does not cover the more challenging precalc concepts, placing some of them in an optional section, while concepts like series and sigma notation are omitted altogether. So if schools teach to the test, that will delay coverage of key concepts until the short period post-exam. Schools could adjust by covering more difficult concepts earlier and adding in more challenging content if they don't teach to the test. 2) The course does not assume prior knowledge of logs and spends a lot of time covering that. Again, schools could navigate around and compensate by shortening the Algebra 2 review. 3) The AP course is designed to be taught through modeling and applications which is time-consuming and limits the amount of content that can be covered. AP Precalc also has kids do regressions which are not needed for AP Calculus but presumably would need to be covered in AP PreCalc for kids planning to take the AP PreCalc exam. Again, schools could ignore this guidance and teach the regular (non-modeling) approach and cover more content. But at some point, if schools have to make so many modifications to make AP Precalc fit calculus-bound students, why bother with all this adjustment? Just have kids take honors precalc as before. Calculus-bound kids don't need an AP Precalc credit as they have the opportunity to get one the next year in AP Calculus. LCPS appears to have come to this conclusion which is why they say Math Analysis is needed for BC Calculus, not AP Precalc.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Loudoun, 9th grade has Math Analysis, unless you are at Academies of Loudoun.

They are introducing AP PreCalculus, but will not let you take Calculus BC after AP PreCalc.

That makes sense. AP PreCalculus is not rigorous; the exam itself is majority Algebra 2 concepts. The course was not designed solely to prepare kids for calculus and the College Board said that most students will likely take AP PreCalculus as seniors. It is not sufficient preparation for BC. And if taught as intended via modeling and applications, it might not be ideal prep for AB either.

If it is not sufficient preparation for BC, then it is not sufficient prep for AB The two classes have the same starting point.

BC covers about 50% more content than AB, so you need to start preparing for BC in precalculus. There is time to cover AB Calculus content in one year. However, if schools follow the time-consuming modeling/applications route for teaching AP Precalc, that will make it more challenging to cover all content which could impact kids' foundation entering calculus. Schools could opt not to use the recommended modeling approach, however.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

The only problem there is Algebra is only offered in MCPS to 6th graders who

1) Went to a wealthy Potomac ES that offers AIM in 5th grade
2) Goes to a wealthy Potomac MS that allows students with >250 MAP-M to take it in 6th

Most ES or MS don't have this allow this. DC, who went to a regular ES and even the magnet MS had 250 MAP-M at age 8 and 290s in 6th did not have that option. My point is it has more to do with which school you attend than your child's mathematical aptitude.

Even if it isn’t a formal option, as long as alg I is offered at the middle school the child is attending, I can’t see a counselor saying no.

Ours only allows it if the student had successfully completed the class prior to Algebra which turns out is only offered a few wealthy elementary schools. So basically no matter how high your test scores are without that prereq which is only available at a few schools you can't take it. Some of the wealthier middle schools allow this though. It just varies by school. At some point, people figured out that acceleration was a golden ticket into STEM programs like TJ, but these options are often only available to UMC students. Even if you are a prodigy attending simply being at a low-income school makes it not an option.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child took Alg I in 6th grade, what did high school look like for them as far as math tracks?

In MCPS can take classes like: Analysis 2, AP Statistics, Sports Statistics, Logic, Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, and Complex Analysis after Calc BC.

There's no way Analysis 2 and Complex Analysis is offered outside of the Blair SMAC program. Highly dubious of Discrete Math and Logic, as well.

Normal schools would not be able to offer these courses, even if somehow there is enough of a cohort to provide the demand.