Youngkin will block schools from accommodating transgender students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg. How will FCPS respond to this madness?

“In a major rollback of LGBTQ rights, the administration of Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) will require that transgender students in Virginia access school facilities and programs that match the sex they were assigned at birth and is making it more difficult for students to change their names and genders at school.
Under new “model policies” for schools’ treatment of transgender students released Friday evening, the Department of Education is requiring that families submit legal documentation to earn their children the right to change names and genders at school. The guidelines also say teachers cannot be compelled to refer to transgender students by their names and genders if it goes against “their constitutionally protected” free speech rights.
And the guidelines say schools cannot “encourage or instruct teachers to conceal material information about a student from the student’s parent, including information related to gender” — raising the prospect that teachers could be forced to out transgender students to their parents.
School districts must adopt the new state guidelines or “policies that are more comprehensive,” after a 30-day comment period that will begin on Sept. 26“

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/16/trans-students-virginia-bathroom-sports/

Thank God!!! I don’t want a boy in my girl’s bathroom.

[Anonymous]

Come on kids!!!
Let’s go protest!!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He is just awful. There are so many statistics about the danger many of these kids are in from their parents and others, and from suicide. And Youngkin wants to make sure these kids are in danger.

Can you cite these statistics?

NP
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/facts-about-lgbtq-youth-suicide/

It is true that transgender youth are more likely to commit suicide. Considering that dysmorphia is often enough comorbid with a bunch of other stuff, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21671938/, causality is far from clear. BTW do you really think the Trevor project came into this analysis trying to find the answer, in a spirit of scientific inquiry? Or maybe do you think you should interpret their study through the lens of understanding they are advocates for a position.

This "but they'll commit suicide" argument -- maybe it's true, but the evidence is not speaking loudly, if at all. Could even be the other way, that encouraging transitions leads to more suicides. Given the lack of careful causal analysis in this literature, we'll probably never know. That argument certainly does grab attention though.

BTW do you think people really "want these kids to be in danger"? I expect most believe (rightly) that gender dysmorphia is mostly a fad and that a return to common sense in the schools will do more good than harm for kids. I think you're turning your opponents into monsters to make yourself feel more righteous. They're not.

+1 Well said!

+10


I am in Europe right now, and friends here, mostly center-left, can't believe how stupid and anti-scientific the US left mainstream has gone on topics like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is just awful. There are so many statistics about the danger many of these kids are in from their parents and others, and from suicide. And Youngkin wants to make sure these kids are in danger.

Can you cite these statistics?

NP
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/facts-about-lgbtq-youth-suicide/

It is true that transgender youth are more likely to commit suicide. Considering that dysmorphia is often enough comorbid with a bunch of other stuff, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21671938/, causality is far from clear. BTW do you really think the Trevor project came into this analysis trying to find the answer, in a spirit of scientific inquiry? Or maybe do you think you should interpret their study through the lens of understanding they are advocates for a position.

This "but they'll commit suicide" argument -- maybe it's true, but the evidence is not speaking loudly, if at all. Could even be the other way, that encouraging transitions leads to more suicides. Given the lack of careful causal analysis in this literature, we'll probably never know. That argument certainly does grab attention though.

BTW do you think people really "want these kids to be in danger"? I expect most believe (rightly) that gender dysmorphia is mostly a fad and that a return to common sense in the schools will do more good than harm for kids. I think you're turning your opponents into monsters to make yourself feel more righteous. They're not.

+1 Well said!

+ 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is just awful. There are so many statistics about the danger many of these kids are in from their parents and others, and from suicide. And Youngkin wants to make sure these kids are in danger.

Can you cite these statistics?

NP
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/facts-about-lgbtq-youth-suicide/

It is true that transgender youth are more likely to commit suicide. Considering that dysmorphia is often enough comorbid with a bunch of other stuff, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21671938/, causality is far from clear. BTW do you really think the Trevor project came into this analysis trying to find the answer, in a spirit of scientific inquiry? Or maybe do you think you should interpret their study through the lens of understanding they are advocates for a position.

This "but they'll commit suicide" argument -- maybe it's true, but the evidence is not speaking loudly, if at all. Could even be the other way, that encouraging transitions leads to more suicides. Given the lack of careful causal analysis in this literature, we'll probably never know. That argument certainly does grab attention though.

BTW do you think people really "want these kids to be in danger"? I expect most believe (rightly) that gender dysmorphia is mostly a fad and that a return to common sense in the schools will do more good than harm for kids. I think you're turning your opponents into monsters to make yourself feel more righteous. They're not.

+1 Well said!

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+3

[Anonymous]

Youngkin's trying to compete in the cruelty games because he thinks that's hiw he gets the Republican nomination. He, DeSantis, and Abbot have to race to the bottom and see who can hurt the most kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is just awful. There are so many statistics about the danger many of these kids are in from their parents and others, and from suicide. And Youngkin wants to make sure these kids are in danger.

Can you cite these statistics?

NP
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/facts-about-lgbtq-youth-suicide/

Wait, are you referencing as your reliable statistics source the same Trevor Project described by Caroline Downey “Undercover mom discovers depravity in Trevor Project’s trans chat room supposedly for youth.” New York Post, September 1, 2022?

[Anonymous]

I support this new policy and wish MCPS would do the same. It’s not helping our kids to indulge their weird teen brain fantasies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin's trying to compete in the cruelty games because he thinks that's hiw he gets the Republican nomination. He, DeSantis, and Abbot have to race to the bottom and see who can hurt the most kids.

Exactly. They are inhumane POSs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is just awful. There are so many statistics about the danger many of these kids are in from their parents and others, and from suicide. And Youngkin wants to make sure these kids are in danger.

Can you cite these statistics?

NP
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/facts-about-lgbtq-youth-suicide/

It is true that transgender youth are more likely to commit suicide. Considering that dysmorphia is often enough comorbid with a bunch of other stuff, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21671938/, causality is far from clear. BTW do you really think the Trevor project came into this analysis trying to find the answer, in a spirit of scientific inquiry? Or maybe do you think you should interpret their study through the lens of understanding they are advocates for a position.

This "but they'll commit suicide" argument -- maybe it's true, but the evidence is not speaking loudly, if at all. Could even be the other way, that encouraging transitions leads to more suicides. Given the lack of careful causal analysis in this literature, we'll probably never know. That argument certainly does grab attention though.

BTW do you think people really "want these kids to be in danger"? I expect most believe (rightly) that gender dysmorphia is mostly a fad and that a return to common sense in the schools will do more good than harm for kids. I think you're turning your opponents into monsters to make yourself feel more righteous. They're not.

+1 Well said!

Wow. Such a wordy rationalization of your bigotry.

tl;dr: you’re anti-trans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg. How will FCPS respond to this madness?

“In a major rollback of LGBTQ rights, the administration of Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) will require that transgender students in Virginia access school facilities and programs that match the sex they were assigned at birth and is making it more difficult for students to change their names and genders at school.
Under new “model policies” for schools’ treatment of transgender students released Friday evening, the Department of Education is requiring that families submit legal documentation to earn their children the right to change names and genders at school. The guidelines also say teachers cannot be compelled to refer to transgender students by their names and genders if it goes against “their constitutionally protected” free speech rights.
And the guidelines say schools cannot “encourage or instruct teachers to conceal material information about a student from the student’s parent, including information related to gender” — raising the prospect that teachers could be forced to out transgender students to their parents.
School districts must adopt the new state guidelines or “policies that are more comprehensive,” after a 30-day comment period that will begin on Sept. 26“

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/16/trans-students-virginia-bathroom-sports/

What are the school faciltiies and programs based on gender? Programs include sports so read about Penn and swimming. Most teams have cuts so what might have been a cut on men's or an average or below average team member after the cuts on men's is a starter on women's.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/19/world-swimming-transgender-athletes-00040722

Swimming exploring a third category? 3rd category bathrooms and lockerrooms? What if a woman is L in LBTGQ and is cut from a team try out or gets less game time for T born male?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg. How will FCPS respond to this madness?

“In a major rollback of LGBTQ rights, the administration of Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) will require that transgender students in Virginia access school facilities and programs that match the sex they were assigned at birth and is making it more difficult for students to change their names and genders at school.
Under new “model policies” for schools’ treatment of transgender students released Friday evening, the Department of Education is requiring that families submit legal documentation to earn their children the right to change names and genders at school. The guidelines also say teachers cannot be compelled to refer to transgender students by their names and genders if it goes against “their constitutionally protected” free speech rights.
And the guidelines say schools cannot “encourage or instruct teachers to conceal material information about a student from the student’s parent, including information related to gender” — raising the prospect that teachers could be forced to out transgender students to their parents.
School districts must adopt the new state guidelines or “policies that are more comprehensive,” after a 30-day comment period that will begin on Sept. 26“

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/16/trans-students-virginia-bathroom-sports/

What are the school faciltiies and programs based on gender? Programs include sports so read about Penn and swimming. Most teams have cuts so what might have been a cut on men's or an average or below average team member after the cuts on men's is a starter on women's.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/19/world-swimming-transgender-athletes-00040722

Swimming exploring a third category? 3rd category bathrooms and lockerrooms? What if a woman is L in LBTGQ and is cut from a team try out or gets less game time for T born male?

So much “concern” from the anti-trans bigots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg. How will FCPS respond to this madness?

“In a major rollback of LGBTQ rights, the administration of Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) will require that transgender students in Virginia access school facilities and programs that match the sex they were assigned at birth and is making it more difficult for students to change their names and genders at school.
Under new “model policies” for schools’ treatment of transgender students released Friday evening, the Department of Education is requiring that families submit legal documentation to earn their children the right to change names and genders at school. The guidelines also say teachers cannot be compelled to refer to transgender students by their names and genders if it goes against “their constitutionally protected” free speech rights.
And the guidelines say schools cannot “encourage or instruct teachers to conceal material information about a student from the student’s parent, including information related to gender” — raising the prospect that teachers could be forced to out transgender students to their parents.
School districts must adopt the new state guidelines or “policies that are more comprehensive,” after a 30-day comment period that will begin on Sept. 26“

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/16/trans-students-virginia-bathroom-sports/

It is not the place of schools to compel speech or to conceal information about children from their parents.

[Anonymous]

Photo opps and culture wars. What a horrible Governor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg. How will FCPS respond to this madness?

“In a major rollback of LGBTQ rights, the administration of Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) will require that transgender students in Virginia access school facilities and programs that match the sex they were assigned at birth and is making it more difficult for students to change their names and genders at school.
Under new “model policies” for schools’ treatment of transgender students released Friday evening, the Department of Education is requiring that families submit legal documentation to earn their children the right to change names and genders at school. The guidelines also say teachers cannot be compelled to refer to transgender students by their names and genders if it goes against “their constitutionally protected” free speech rights.
And the guidelines say schools cannot “encourage or instruct teachers to conceal material information about a student from the student’s parent, including information related to gender” — raising the prospect that teachers could be forced to out transgender students to their parents.
School districts must adopt the new state guidelines or “policies that are more comprehensive,” after a 30-day comment period that will begin on Sept. 26“

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/16/trans-students-virginia-bathroom-sports/

What are the school faciltiies and programs based on gender? Programs include sports so read about Penn and swimming. Most teams have cuts so what might have been a cut on men's or an average or below average team member after the cuts on men's is a starter on women's.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/19/world-swimming-transgender-athletes-00040722

Swimming exploring a third category? 3rd category bathrooms and lockerrooms? What if a woman is L in LBTGQ and is cut from a team try out or gets less game time for T born male?

So much “concern” from the anti-trans bigots.

My post was about women's sports. You think it's fair for those collegeiate swimmers? Take it down levels to HS varsity and JV. Soccer might have 23 on the varsity roster. JV has cuts and from JV trying for varsity there are cuts. No varsity soccer for those who were cut after 2 years on JV. Great layers can go onto playing in college whether it's D1 or D3.

Honestly, you know more about sports and transgender issues than Caitlyn Jenner? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/20/caitlyn-jenner-transgender-athletes-womens-sports/