Student verbally assaulting teacher in front of class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS child came home with a story about a student calling a teacher an a-hole and telling her to shut up in class today in front of everyone. This student isn't from the community and comes on a special program. It took 15 minutes for security to arrive, and the boy has been talking to the teacher like this all week. Kids said the teacher was crying. If the kid is back in class on Monday, I hope the teacher goes straight to the union.

MCPS will say that the teacher should have built a better relationship with the student.

This is not an exaggeration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This type of behavior should never be tolerated if American schools are to retain teachers. Other cultures would never tolerate this disrespect. Honestly it’s the overly permissive liberal culture.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This type of behavior should never be tolerated if American schools are to retain teachers. Other cultures would never tolerate this disrespect. Honestly it’s the overly permissive liberal culture.

Spare the rod, spoil the child! It's worked for millennia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Straight to the union and do what? I am a teacher and this is common, along side throwing stuff at us. It’s part of the job.

Sadly, yes. The child has to actually lay hands on you before you get any real consequences.

Maybe, maybe not. Unless the teacher is very seriously injured, it's doubtful much of anything will happen. I've been doing this a long time and it drives me insane. I've started working with my union and with a lawyer on general employee safety. We teachers have to band together and stop tolerating this. We have a right to safety along with the rest of our students. I don't particularly care if a child has a disability or not. A "one time situation" if the child is younger than 6 or so is one thing. Repeated violence at any age? Nope. Older than 1st grade? Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This type of behavior should never be tolerated if American schools are to retain teachers. Other cultures would never tolerate this disrespect. Honestly it’s the overly permissive liberal culture.

I don’t think little gang bangers self-describe as liberals.

[Anonymous]

MCPS is a joke, how they have any teachers left is beyond me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This type of behavior should never be tolerated if American schools are to retain teachers. Other cultures would never tolerate this disrespect. Honestly it’s the overly permissive liberal culture.

I agree and I am liberal. There is not an easy solution, but allowing abuse of teachers to continue is morally wrong.

[Anonymous]

Is admin doing anything? Perhaps the kid needs a less mainstream setting. SESES or the like, where they're staffed to handle it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t that uncommon. I know teachers who have quit because they had similar experiences and didn’t feel supported by the school.
-teacher

This. It actually happened in our ES a few years ago. The kid threw something at the teacher. It sounds like it’s somewhat common, unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is admin doing anything? Perhaps the kid needs a less mainstream setting. SESES or the like, where they're staffed to handle it.

There is a push to keep kids ‘mainstreamed’. Kids just get passed around from school to school. Remember the Damascus rape case? That kid had plenty of issues and ended up at Damascus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS child came home with a story about a student calling a teacher an a-hole and telling her to shut up in class today in front of everyone. This student isn't from the community and comes on a special program. It took 15 minutes for security to arrive, and the boy has been talking to the teacher like this all week. Kids said the teacher was crying. If the kid is back in class on Monday, I hope the teacher goes straight to the union.

What does "comes on a special program" mean? Do you mean the kid is *in* a special program? So a kid with a disability?

My guess would be kid is bussed in from a different district that doesn’t offer the course he is bussed in to take, but not a kid with a disability. Where I grew up, this happened often. Neighboring County/school system had some programs or courses my school didn’t and kids could apply or test in to bus to another school for a few classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS child came home with a story about a student calling a teacher an a-hole and telling her to shut up in class today in front of everyone. This student isn't from the community and comes on a special program. It took 15 minutes for security to arrive, and the boy has been talking to the teacher like this all week. Kids said the teacher was crying. If the kid is back in class on Monday, I hope the teacher goes straight to the union.

MCPS will say that the teacher should have built a better relationship with the student.

THIS!

Possibly, MCPS will blame the teacher for being racist. Or MCPS will push some restorative justice nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This type of behavior should never be tolerated if American schools are to retain teachers. Other cultures would never tolerate this disrespect. Honestly it’s the overly permissive liberal culture.

The students learn very early on that bad behavior is tolerated. Kids know they can get away with horrible behavior and then it just gets worse as the kids get older. IME, this is true across SES levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS child came home with a story about a student calling a teacher an a-hole and telling her to shut up in class today in front of everyone. This student isn't from the community and comes on a special program. It took 15 minutes for security to arrive, and the boy has been talking to the teacher like this all week. Kids said the teacher was crying. If the kid is back in class on Monday, I hope the teacher goes straight to the union.

MCPS will say that the teacher should have built a better relationship with the student.

THIS!

Possibly, MCPS will blame the teacher for being racist. Or MCPS will push some restorative justice nonsense.

When shit happens they always blame the teacher or suggest building a relationship. Honestly though as frustrating and unrealistic as it is building a relationship is the best way. Just asking a kid how they feel can go a long way. But when a kid comes into class upset or wound up there is not a whole lot a teacher can do. I used to work in alternative school in a neighboring county. I have been cussed out plenty of times sometimes daily. Threatened a few times. It sucks and it is draining. You can’t teach in a situation like that. It shuts down the whole room.

What needs to happen with a kid like this is that every teacher of the student has a meeting a meeting together with admin and the therapist of the program. Discuss what to do so everyone can be consistent. Follow a order of responses outlined in a Behavior intervention Plan BIP designed for the kid. MCPS doesn’t seem to like BIPs though for the ED programs I am familiar with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Straight to the union and do what? I am a teacher and this is common, along side throwing stuff at us. It’s part of the job.

Call the police and report a verbal assault. This is BS, not fair to teacher or students. If you are a parent, document it, email all other parents in class and write a letter of complaint to principal ccing area superintendent.