Asian-Americans Fight Back Against School Discrimination

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

DP.. you know that goes both ways, right? It applies to the Asian American immigrant kid, too.

Exactly. It applies to everyone. Kids should all be on the same playing field, regardless of their family situations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All I read here is that Asians are afraid to lash out against the legacy process which is mostly white privilege. Sounds like they're afraid to anger them.

legacy process is a lot harder to fight against because it's nnot about race, even as most of those who benefit from it are white UMC.

It's actually easier because it's easier to identify (legacy and admission criteria are facts). If a legacy doesn't meet the admissions requirements, then you have a case that's easy to prove. It's harder to prove admissions bias based on race since most underrepresented minorities that get in meet the requirements. They might not have the highest test scores and GPAs but they still meet the requirements. Then, you add in other criteria and they're in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the numbers at elite colleges and high schools, there is still a good percentage of Asian students...just a lot of hate from the parents of the kids who didn't get in. None of the Asians at those schools are complaining about a lack of Asian peers.

Just because you test well and have a high GPA doesn't mean you're entitled to admission. There are other factors involved. When will you understand that?

TJ used to look at gpa, test scores, teacher recommendations, essays, ECs etc. stop with oh they only look at test and gpa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

Because the entire argument for changing the admissions system at TJ was that Asian parents were privileged and URM parents were not privileged. That’s why.

[Anonymous]

Let's just add this thread to the 100s of other similar ones.

Hey, if your kid didn't get in, I'm sorry but there are a lot of other options. If he/she is truly smart, they they will be successful anywhere. The kids care much less than their parents who want to put a bumper sticker on their car.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

Because the entire argument for changing the admissions system at TJ was that Asian parents were privileged and URM parents were not privileged. That’s why.

If you think that's the entire argument, then maybe you're not very fluent in English or just don't understand the learning value of a diverse student body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

What do you think about giving economically-disadvantaged students a little boost in admissions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

Because the entire argument for changing the admissions system at TJ was that Asian parents were privileged and URM parents were not privileged. That’s why.

That’s not “the entire argument”. That’s not part of the argument at all. The argument was only a handful of black, Hispanic, and economically-disadvantaged kids were getting in each year.

What about economically-disadvantaged and English-learning Asian students? They benefit from the new admissions process.

The Asian American community is an incredibly diverse group, and the revised admissions process benefits all students, including Asian American students who are low-income or English language learners, a fact that the Coalition for TJ ignores,” said Niyati Shah, AAAJ (Asian Americans Advancing Justice).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

Because the entire argument for changing the admissions system at TJ was that Asian parents were privileged and URM parents were not privileged. That’s why.

If you think that's the entire argument, then maybe you're not very fluent in English or just don't understand the learning value of a diverse student body.

Of course the “goal” was diversity but the main argument for giving URMs a boost was because Asians were privileged and URMs were not.

[Anonymous]

The truth is that my kid is indeed very fortunate. He comes from a loving family with biological heterosexual parents who are college educated and married to each other. Not only we (parents) know how to cook delicious food from scratch, we also can tutor him in Math. This is a very high bar for most students.

[Anonymous]

I think this is the time to think about creating schools for Asian-Americans (HAACUs) just like we have HBCUs. Of course, we should allow very high performing students from other races to also join in so that Asian-Americans are around diversity.

[Anonymous]

That high school is called Chantilly or Westfield or Oakton in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

Because the entire argument for changing the admissions system at TJ was that Asian parents were privileged and URM parents were not privileged. That’s why.

But the evidence demonstrated that the board's goal was actually to increase *racial* diversity, not socio -economic diversity. ALL this equity bullshit would do better to frame all their standards as socio-economic. They'd suffer much less pushback AND actual stand a chance of being constitutional in their actions.

That’s not “the entire argument”. That’s not part of the argument at all. The argument was only a handful of black, Hispanic, and economically-disadvantaged kids were getting in each year.

What about economically-disadvantaged and English-learning Asian students? They benefit from the new admissions process.

The Asian American community is an incredibly diverse group, and the revised admissions process benefits all students, including Asian American students who are low-income or English language learners, a fact that the Coalition for TJ ignores,” said Niyati Shah, AAAJ (Asian Americans Advancing Justice).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is the time to think about creating schools for Asian-Americans (HAACUs) just like we have HBCUs. Of course, we should allow very high performing students from other races to also join in so that Asian-Americans are around diversity.

Yes to this. White posters are in saying APA students only test well and have high GPAs. Nothing else to our kids or our community. Racist stereotypes born from white fragility. Everyone else is a monolith but you’re like 1/16th Swedish and everyone must know about it! You’re unique!