Why don’t parents file more police reports?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

You’re filing a police report because a kid shoved another and left a bruise? Your going to have a long painful future in the school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

Who are you escalating the biting to, the principal? What will they do? Make the kid develop/mature faster?

[Anonymous]

This is going to happen much more often in the future because people don't trust the public school system any more. It used to be that people didn't call the police because they trusted school administration to handle issues (and explicitly distrusted police), but there is so much broken trust now with schools (for so many reasons) that I think people will go to the police more often. If you distrust both police and schools, and school isn't doing anything, you might as well try the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

Who are you escalating the biting to, the principal? What will they do? Make the kid develop/mature faster?

NP. Not trying to derail...but if a kid kept biting my kid, yes I would escalate. Are you saying you wouldn't and would just let some kid keep biting your kid? I might let it slide once, maybe twice, but after that, we got a problem that needs to be addressed (not by the police).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

You can't press charges against a kindergartner. Children that age are simply not criminally responsible. It's insane that you think that people not calling the cops means they are "tolerating" normal childhood misbehavior. We are talking about children. Young children. You think they need to be arrested? Taken to jail? There are schools and states where that happens, and it's hideous and ugly and horrifying and traumatic. Children don't belong in the penal system. Period. High school students are different, but even then, not every issue belongs in the criminal justice system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

Who are you escalating the biting to, the principal? What will they do? Make the kid develop/mature faster?

NP. Not trying to derail...but if a kid kept biting my kid, yes I would escalate. Are you saying you wouldn't and would just let some kid keep biting your kid? I might let it slide once, maybe twice, but after that, we got a problem that needs to be addressed (not by the police).

Yep, the problem may be that they are intellectual disabled or stunted in another way developmentally. These kids are in school. You’re kid will survive a bite or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

You can't press charges against a kindergartner. Children that age are simply not criminally responsible. It's insane that you think that people not calling the cops means they are "tolerating" normal childhood misbehavior. We are talking about children. Young children. You think they need to be arrested? Taken to jail? There are schools and states where that happens, and it's hideous and ugly and horrifying and traumatic. Children don't belong in the penal system. Period. High school students are different, but even then, not every issue belongs in the criminal justice system.

I’m pretty sure the police would convince the parents to drop the charges based “being ridiculous and a waste of time.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

Who are you escalating the biting to, the principal? What will they do? Make the kid develop/mature faster?

NP. Not trying to derail...but if a kid kept biting my kid, yes I would escalate. Are you saying you wouldn't and would just let some kid keep biting your kid? I might let it slide once, maybe twice, but after that, we got a problem that needs to be addressed (not by the police).

Yep, the problem may be that they are intellectual disabled or stunted in another way developmentally. These kids are in school. You’re kid will survive a bite or two.

Yeah. No. One of us is rolling out, most likely the biter. My kid will survive a bite, but why would I expect my kid to put up with it. That sets a bad example for your kid accepting abuse, even from other children. The fact that they are are in school is irrelevant. At what age does it stop? If there is a child in class that is that intellectually disabled or otherwise developmentally deficient that kid needs to be removed. When children was in kindergarten, bitting was strictly monitored and dealt with. After three instances, the child was counseled out.

I'm digressing and obviously triggered....so let me move on.

[Anonymous]

^"my children"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago, they probably expected the schools to handle it by expelling the student.

Now, they probably know the school will do nothing but don’t want to call the cops because they don’t want to be cancelled.

But I agree with you. If someone assaults my kids, I’m pressing charges. I don’t care if it happens at school or not.

What do you consider assault? When a kindergartner bites another kid? When a 3rd grader hits another kid because he didn’t like the way a game ended? When a middle schooler trips a kid in the hallway as a joke? When another kid gets jealous of a toy or something and pushes them down to get it? I’ve seen all of these things and I wouldn’t consider any one of them assault.

DP. Anything that leaves a physical mark, especially past upper elementary. With the exception of the biting, the rest of the things you mentioned wouldn’t warrant that. A closed fist punch, a shove hard enough to cause a hard fall and bruising, a puncture wound from being stabbed with a pen? Yes. I wouldn’t press charges if a kindergartner bit my kid but I’d make it clear that better be the last time or I’d escalate the issue. You get kicked out of daycare or private preschool for that. I’m not sure why it’s expected to be tolerated in kindergarten or first grade.

Who are you escalating the biting to, the principal? What will they do? Make the kid develop/mature faster?

NP. Not trying to derail...but if a kid kept biting my kid, yes I would escalate. Are you saying you wouldn't and would just let some kid keep biting your kid? I might let it slide once, maybe twice, but after that, we got a problem that needs to be addressed (not by the police).

Yep, the problem may be that they are intellectual disabled or stunted in another way developmentally. These kids are in school. You’re kid will survive a bite or two.

Yeah. No. One of us is rolling out, most likely the biter. My kid will survive a bite, but why would I expect my kid to put up with it. That sets a bad example for your kid accepting abuse, even from other children. The fact that they are are in school is irrelevant. At what age does it stop? If there is a child in class that is that intellectually disabled or otherwise developmentally deficient that kid needs to be removed. When children was in kindergarten, bitting was strictly monitored and dealt with. After three instances, the child was counseled out.

I'm digressing and obviously triggered....so let me move on.

The law protects these students now and allows them to stay. But you can always move your student.

[Anonymous]

My neighbors file a police report each time there is an incident so they have tangible proof. I wouldn't be surprised if they were working up to a lawsuit against the county.

The school has been useless in their bullying situation. The school says it's out of their control because it happens at the bus stop and on the bus. The bus driver says she doesn't see any bullying.

[Anonymous]

The pandemic has made everyone crazy.

This thread is just more illustration of that. Totally crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pandemic has made everyone crazy.

This thread is just more illustration of that. Totally crazy.

1 million percent. This is some next level cabin fever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My neighbors file a police report each time there is an incident so they have tangible proof. I wouldn't be surprised if they were working up to a lawsuit against the county.

The school has been useless in their bullying situation. The school says it's out of their control because it happens at the bus stop and on the bus. The bus driver says she doesn't see any bullying.

But so they have evidence and witnesses?