Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

[Anonymous]

Why not turn it back into a regular high school and increase the advanced offerings at all schools? That would be equitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

If you believed this you would want to eliminate TJ entirely. So much hypocrisy, as long as TJ ends up embarrassing you less because it has a few more Black and Hispanic kids.

What do you have against black and Hispanic kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not turn it back into a regular high school and increase the advanced offerings at all schools? That would be equitable.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

This again. OK, but then you refuse to apply this philosophy to sports. You cannot have it both ways.

What reason would there be to apply it to sports? The point of a sports team is to win games. While TJ does compete in many areas (including in sports!) the point of TJ is not to win any competition or to rank highly in any artificial set of rankings.

[Anonymous]

Can anyone provide the admission stats by middle schools for the class of 2025? Interested to see how many kids went from Franklin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

If I don't have a real argument, let me just throw around words like privilege, equity, and oppression. At least I can fool some of the people while making myself feel good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

If I don't have a real argument, let me just throw around words like privilege, equity, and oppression. At least I can fool some of the people while making myself feel good.

When you don’t have a real argument, you come crying on a forum like this.

[Anonymous]

Sports = Elective

School = Mandatory

TJ is a magnet school in STEM that is meant to serve FCPS and surrounding counties. It is supposed to be available to all children who have an interest and aptitude in STEM. As such, it’s selection criteria should be based on STEM opportunities that are available and accessible to all students. In this case, that means classes taught at Middle Schools and an interest in STEM, demonstrated through the essays the kids write.

It should not use outside extra curricular activities that are not easily available to all students in the selection process because not every kid can afford them, or has the time for them (they might be needed to help their parents by working or watching siblings), or has the ability to travel to the practice or competitions.

Sports are an elective that can be influenced by outside coaching and the like. I would guess that most of the kids trying out for teams at Title I or poorer schools do not have a lot of kids getting private coaching or attending sports camps. I would guess that many of the kids trying out for sports at McLean and Langley and similar schools have been playing travel or attending camps or working with coaches because their parents can afford it and there are fewer issues with family needs for help and transportation to things. Which would be the reason that most sports movies dealing with high school teams are focused on the underdog team from the poor section of town that over performs due to heart and grit and determination and beat the rich kids in the championship game. Most people are rooting for the underdog while watching the film by the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

If I don't have a real argument, let me just throw around words like privilege, equity, and oppression. At least I can fool some of the people while making myself feel good.

.... that's literally exactly what you just did. I actually did make an argument which you chose not to respond to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

When you establish policy to confer political favors, discrimination is passed off as equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

When you establish policy to confer political favors, discrimination is passed off as equity.

Removing a discriminatory policy does not equate to introducing discrimination.

The old admissions policy very heavily discriminated in favor of students and families who had the resources to spend on additional supplemental work that was specifically geared toward the TJ admissions process. The proof was in the results - for TJ's entire history, including well before it became majority Asian, it has overwhelmingly consisted of wealthy families and has had extremely poor representation from students of need.

I don't think the new admissions process is perfect - far from it. But at least it inarguably serves the entire population of Northern Virginia instead of just the wealthier areas of Fairfax and Loudoun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

When you establish policy to confer political favors, discrimination is passed off as equity.

Removing a discriminatory policy does not equate to introducing discrimination.

The old admissions policy very heavily discriminated in favor of students and families who had the resources to spend on additional supplemental work that was specifically geared toward the TJ admissions process. The proof was in the results - for TJ's entire history, including well before it became majority Asian, it has overwhelmingly consisted of wealthy families and has had extremely poor representation from students of need.

I don't think the new admissions process is perfect - far from it. But at least it inarguably serves the entire population of Northern Virginia instead of just the wealthier areas of Fairfax and Loudoun.

Of course you can successfully argue that a lottery process is representative. Maybe it should be extended to grading at TJ too. It is far from perfect but it inarguably serves the...blah blah..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

When you establish policy to confer political favors, discrimination is passed off as equity.

Removing a discriminatory policy does not equate to introducing discrimination.

The old admissions policy very heavily discriminated in favor of students and families who had the resources to spend on additional supplemental work that was specifically geared toward the TJ admissions process. The proof was in the results - for TJ's entire history, including well before it became majority Asian, it has overwhelmingly consisted of wealthy families and has had extremely poor representation from students of need.

I don't think the new admissions process is perfect - far from it. But at least it inarguably serves the entire population of Northern Virginia instead of just the wealthier areas of Fairfax and Loudoun.

Of course you can successfully argue that a lottery process is representative. Maybe it should be extended to grading at TJ too. It is far from perfect but it inarguably serves the...blah blah..

There is no lottery element to the new process. It probably feels somewhat like a lottery to families who are no longer able to use their resources to optimize the new admissions process, but the students in the new process were evaluated first against applicants from within their own school, and then against the remaining applicants for the unallocated spots.