Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: I don't understand why the sightings of a plane flying low over the Madives is considered false now. Now do they know it was a different plane or not a plane at all?

Also, how the fuck could they let family members in and out the pilot's home before searching?

Supposedly the main pilot was a good Samaritan doing lots of volunteer work therefore I would assume he wouldn't want to kill all those people even if he was suicidal. Then again, you never know what is in someone's heart. A lot of people who committed terrible crimes were known as "pillars" in the community.


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Anonymous


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26644085

Frustration with the search for missing flight MH370 boiled over into chaotic scenes as Chinese relatives were dragged away from journalists.

They were attempting to speak to Chinese journalists outside the daily press conference in Kuala Lumpur.

A BBC reporter was pushed away from the relatives, who were carrying banners criticising the handling of the case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Basic known Facts
0041 - Plane departs
0107 - ACARS communication sends report. (News conference today denied yesterday's news that reprogrammed route was in this report)
0119 - Co pilot says All right, good night as Malaysia ATC signs off and turns flight over to Vietnam ATC
0121 - transponder is turned off
0122 - Plane is off Malaysia radar screen - does not appear on Vietnam radar but Vietnam ATC assumes flight is delayed
0137 - expected ACARS report is not received
02?? - Vietnam ATC informs Malaysia ACT that flight 370 has not been in contact and not on radar
0215 - Malaysia military loses radar contact with with is believed to be the MH370 in the south part of the Andaman Sea. Malayisa confirms that prior to 0125 the plane made a series of deliberate sharp turns navigating by waypoints
0240 - Flight is declared missing
0811 - Last satellite ping


Other than the deliberate turns, this supports mechanical failure and possible depressurization.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Basic known Facts
0041 - Plane departs
0107 - ACARS communication sends report. (News conference today denied yesterday's news that reprogrammed route was in this report)
0119 - Co pilot says All right, good night as Malaysia ATC signs off and turns flight over to Vietnam ATC
0121 - transponder is turned off
0122 - Plane is off Malaysia radar screen - does not appear on Vietnam radar but Vietnam ATC assumes flight is delayed
0137 - expected ACARS report is not received
02?? - Vietnam ATC informs Malaysia ACT that flight 370 has not been in contact and not on radar
0215 - Malaysia military loses radar contact with with is believed to be the MH370 in the south part of the Andaman Sea. Malayisa confirms that prior to 0125 the plane made a series of deliberate sharp turns navigating by waypoints
0240 - Flight is declared missing
0811 - Last satellite ping


Other than the deliberate turns, this supports mechanical failure and possible depressurization.


- except that the "waypoints" had to be intetionally entered by someone on the plane.

I am not a pilot. But the NYT had a piece by a pilot who flys that exact same type of plane. They explained its highly unlikely anyone other than another pilot - an experienced pilot familiar with that type of plane - would be able to navigate using thoe waypoints. It is NOT a skill you could learn on a flight simulator. And it cannot be done by accidentally bumping into a control button or something.

From above: "0215 - Malaysia military loses radar contact with with is believed to be the MH370 in the south part of the Andaman Sea. Malayisa confirms that prior to 0125 the plane made a series of deliberate sharp turns navigating by waypoints "
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Basic known Facts
0041 - Plane departs
0107 - ACARS communication sends report. (News conference today denied yesterday's news that reprogrammed route was in this report)
0119 - Co pilot says All right, good night as Malaysia ATC signs off and turns flight over to Vietnam ATC
0121 - transponder is turned off
0122 - Plane is off Malaysia radar screen - does not appear on Vietnam radar but Vietnam ATC assumes flight is delayed
0137 - expected ACARS report is not received
02?? - Vietnam ATC informs Malaysia ACT that flight 370 has not been in contact and not on radar
0215 - Malaysia military loses radar contact with with is believed to be the MH370 in the south part of the Andaman Sea. Malayisa confirms that prior to 0125 the plane made a series of deliberate sharp turns navigating by waypoints
0240 - Flight is declared missing
0811 - Last satellite ping


Oops, I realize I have a typo.
0215 - Malaysia military loses radar contact with with is believed to be the MH370 in the south part of the Andaman Sea. Malaysia confirms that prior to 0215 (not 0125) the plane made a series of deliberate sharp turns navigating by waypoints
Anonymous
The only known "basic fact" is that the plane is missing. Everything else is just noise, including all 99 pages here.
Anonymous
Anyone get the feeling that Malaysia is not being very forth coming on the facts? They seemed to very reluctantly agree to a fact long after it has been proven...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone get the feeling that Malaysia is not being very forth coming on the facts? They seemed to very reluctantly agree to a fact long after it has been proven...


What "fact" has been proven? The only thing that we know with real certainty, is that a plane is missing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Basic known Facts
0041 - Plane departs
0107 - ACARS communication sends report. (News conference today denied yesterday's news that reprogrammed route was in this report)
0119 - Co pilot says All right, good night as Malaysia ATC signs off and turns flight over to Vietnam ATC
0121 - transponder is turned off
0122 - Plane is off Malaysia radar screen - does not appear on Vietnam radar but Vietnam ATC assumes flight is delayed
0137 - expected ACARS report is not received
02?? - Vietnam ATC informs Malaysia ACT that flight 370 has not been in contact and not on radar
0215 - Malaysia military loses radar contact with with is believed to be the MH370 in the south part of the Andaman Sea. Malayisa confirms that prior to 0125 the plane made a series of deliberate sharp turns navigating by waypoints
0240 - Flight is declared missing
0811 - Last satellite ping


Other than the deliberate turns, this supports mechanical failure and possible depressurization.


I read that there was a question in today's press conference, asking the officials to confirm that these deliberate turns had taken place and the officials sidestepped the question
Anonymous
It seems based on the current search actions that they think the plane flew south and crashed into the ocean when it ran out of fuel.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone get the feeling that Malaysia is not being very forth coming on the facts? They seemed to very reluctantly agree to a fact long after it has been proven...


What "fact" has been proven? The only thing that we know with real certainty, is that a plane is missing.


With satellite data, they know the plane diverted. Either that was done as part of or due to a mechanical problem or was done intentionally by someone who was familiar with flying commercially.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Basic known Facts
0041 - Plane departs
0107 - ACARS communication sends report. (News conference today denied yesterday's news that reprogrammed route was in this report)
0119 - Co pilot says All right, good night as Malaysia ATC signs off and turns flight over to Vietnam ATC
0121 - transponder is turned off
0122 - Plane is off Malaysia radar screen - does not appear on Vietnam radar but Vietnam ATC assumes flight is delayed
0137 - expected ACARS report is not received
02?? - Vietnam ATC informs Malaysia ACT that flight 370 has not been in contact and not on radar
0215 - Malaysia military loses radar contact with with is believed to be the MH370 in the south part of the Andaman Sea. Malayisa confirms that prior to 0125 the plane made a series of deliberate sharp turns navigating by waypoints
0240 - Flight is declared missing
0811 - Last satellite ping


Other than the deliberate turns, this supports mechanical failure and possible depressurization.


I read that there was a question in today's press conference, asking the officials to confirm that these deliberate turns had taken place and the officials sidestepped the question


The Malaysian officials at the press conference today sidestepped almost all the questions. It seems the only piece of data anyone trusts anymore is the last satellite ping; hence, the search off Australia in the Southern Indian Ocean.

This is a true mystery - not many of those left anymore.
Anonymous
Israel is beefing up security out of fear the plane will be used as a weapon of mass destruction against them.

I think there is probably a whole lot of information that has not come out yet because they don't want to compromise the investigation. I wish I were not so obsessed with this story.
Anonymous
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584399/Malaysia-confirms-new-radar-data-missing-plane-flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html

"New" information from the Malaysian government. I'm convinced they (and the US) know what happened to this plane and that it landed intact somewhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous



Israel is beefing up security out of fear the plane will be used as a weapon of mass destruction against them.

I think there is probably a whole lot of information that has not come out yet because they don't want to compromise the investigation. I wish I were not so obsessed with this story.

Yes of course! Because you really need to "beef up" your defense against a commercial airplane.
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