TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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I guess this is why tests like the SAT have fallen in disfavor with so many colleges and universities. Sharing the test answers for the Quant-Q was a big problem and gave those who could afford to purchase them a big advantage for opportunities at PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

They have fallen in disfavor because it blocks their desire to boost minority enrollment.
Asians and whites who pursue test-optional admissions will find themselves doing poorly.

Although saying that may make you feel better, it simply isn't true. The tests are optional because they believe their not as meaningful as people once believed.

Yeah, sure. That's why the SAT proposed bonus points being awarded for their version of "experience factors."

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So who in the county is responsible specifically? Is it an external agency reporting to the county board?

If you are involved in education in this area, "the county" refers to FCPS.

FCPS operates the TJ Admissions process through an office that is solely tasked with that responsibility. The TJ Admissions Office and process is under the umbrella of the Chief Equity Officer, a position currently held by Dr. Nardos King. Dr. King, among several other positions, was formerly the principal at Mt. Vernon High School.

So the chief equity officer is responsible for the admissions test. Cool!

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I didn't say that...you are projecting.

I didn't say you said it. I just said you confirmed it. Two different things.

Ok. You the know it all then.

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I guess this is why tests like the SAT have fallen in disfavor with so many colleges and universities. Sharing the test answers for the Quant-Q was a big problem and gave those who could afford to purchase them a big advantage for opportunities at PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

They have fallen in disfavor because it blocks their desire to boost minority enrollment.
Asians and whites who pursue test-optional admissions will find themselves doing poorly.

Although saying that may make you feel better, it simply isn't true. The tests are optional because they believe their not as meaningful as people once believed.

Yeah, sure. That's why the SAT proposed bonus points being awarded for their version of "experience factors."

The SAT doesn't do this, but along a subjective axis colleges have literally always done this in America in their admissions process. It appears that you may have some difficulty distinguish between appropriate analogies - SAT prep courses can help with that, I'm told.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So who in the county is responsible specifically? Is it an external agency reporting to the county board?

If you are involved in education in this area, "the county" refers to FCPS.

FCPS operates the TJ Admissions process through an office that is solely tasked with that responsibility. The TJ Admissions Office and process is under the umbrella of the Chief Equity Officer, a position currently held by Dr. Nardos King. Dr. King, among several other positions, was formerly the principal at Mt. Vernon High School.

So the chief equity officer is responsible for the admissions test. Cool!

Sure, in a sense. She is responsible for managing the people who decide how to implement the policy adopted by the School Board.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So who in the county is responsible specifically? Is it an external agency reporting to the county board?

If you are involved in education in this area, "the county" refers to FCPS.

FCPS operates the TJ Admissions process through an office that is solely tasked with that responsibility. The TJ Admissions Office and process is under the umbrella of the Chief Equity Officer, a position currently held by Dr. Nardos King. Dr. King, among several other positions, was formerly the principal at Mt. Vernon High School.

So the chief equity officer is responsible for the admissions test. Cool!

Sure, in a sense. She is responsible for managing the people who decide how to implement the policy adopted by the School Board.

Isn't her performance metrics different though - given that she is chief equity officer?

[Anonymous]

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I guess this is why tests like the SAT have fallen in disfavor with so many colleges and universities. Sharing the test answers for the Quant-Q was a big problem and gave those who could afford to purchase them a big advantage for opportunities at PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

They have fallen in disfavor because it blocks their desire to boost minority enrollment.
Asians and whites who pursue test-optional admissions will find themselves doing poorly.

Although saying that may make you feel better, it simply isn't true. The tests are optional because they believe their not as meaningful as people once believed.

Yeah, sure. That's why the SAT proposed bonus points being awarded for their version of "experience factors."

The SAT doesn't do this, but along a subjective axis colleges have literally always done this in America in their admissions process. It appears that you may have some difficulty distinguish between appropriate analogies - SAT prep courses can help with that, I'm told.

Proposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are people already aware that there was a loophole to the verification?

Filling out the online FRM form allowed the parents to claim low income without producing documentation. The TJ Admissions office only needed confirmation that the parents had submitted the form.

This is insane.

Do all FARMS kids at all schools need to prove it with documentation? Or is it just TJ?

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Anonymous wrote:Are people already aware that there was a loophole to the verification?

Filling out the online FRM form allowed the parents to claim low income without producing documentation. The TJ Admissions office only needed confirmation that the parents had submitted the form.

This is insane.

Do all FARMS kids at all schools need to prove it with documentation? Or is it just TJ?

FARMS families have to provide documentation in order to receive FARMs. So yes, all FARMs kids have to prove it. It was a box that you could check on the TJ application and you did not have to submit documentation at the time the application was due.

You don't just call the school and say "My kid is a FARMs kid" or check a box on the form at your base school. You apply and provide the approved paperwork to your school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people already aware that there was a loophole to the verification?

Filling out the online FRM form allowed the parents to claim low income without producing documentation. The TJ Admissions office only needed confirmation that the parents had submitted the form.

This is insane.

Do all FARMS kids at all schools need to prove it with documentation? Or is it just TJ?

FARMS families have to provide documentation in order to receive FARMs. So yes, all FARMs kids have to prove it. It was a box that you could check on the TJ application and you did not have to submit documentation at the time the application was due.

You don't just call the school and say "My kid is a FARMs kid" or check a box on the form at your base school. You apply and provide the approved paperwork to your school.

You don't make a phone call. This year, there was a online form. You could easily fudge the numbers. The "approved paperwork" was hitting the submit button.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people already aware that there was a loophole to the verification?

Filling out the online FRM form allowed the parents to claim low income without producing documentation. The TJ Admissions office only needed confirmation that the parents had submitted the form.

This is insane.

Do all FARMS kids at all schools need to prove it with documentation? Or is it just TJ?

FARMS families have to provide documentation in order to receive FARMs. So yes, all FARMs kids have to prove it. It was a box that you could check on the TJ application and you did not have to submit documentation at the time the application was due.

You don't just call the school and say "My kid is a FARMs kid" or check a box on the form at your base school. You apply and provide the approved paperwork to your school.

No one in the right mind would this and I don’t think ppl even know this is possible. Probably you did it and your child still got rejected?

You don't make a phone call. This year, there was a online form. You could easily fudge the numbers. The "approved paperwork" was hitting the submit button.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people already aware that there was a loophole to the verification?

Filling out the online FRM form allowed the parents to claim low income without producing documentation. The TJ Admissions office only needed confirmation that the parents had submitted the form.

This is insane.

Do all FARMS kids at all schools need to prove it with documentation? Or is it just TJ?

FARMS families have to provide documentation in order to receive FARMs. So yes, all FARMs kids have to prove it. It was a box that you could check on the TJ application and you did not have to submit documentation at the time the application was due.

You don't just call the school and say "My kid is a FARMs kid" or check a box on the form at your base school. You apply and provide the approved paperwork to your school.

You don't make a phone call. This year, there was a online form. You could easily fudge the numbers. The "approved paperwork" was hitting the submit button.

No one in the right mind would this and I don’t think ppl even know this is possible. Probably you did it and your child still got rejected?

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So who in the county is responsible specifically? Is it an external agency reporting to the county board?

If you are involved in education in this area, "the county" refers to FCPS.

FCPS operates the TJ Admissions process through an office that is solely tasked with that responsibility. The TJ Admissions Office and process is under the umbrella of the Chief Equity Officer, a position currently held by Dr. Nardos King. Dr. King, among several other positions, was formerly the principal at Mt. Vernon High School.

So the chief equity officer is responsible for the admissions test. Cool!

Sure, in a sense. She is responsible for managing the people who decide how to implement the policy adopted by the School Board.

Isn't her performance metrics different though - given that she is chief equity officer?

Seems like CEO is now Chief Equity Officer at this organization! The chief equity officer is now responsible for the admissions test. Given how she is measured, literally, equity is the key consideration, not merit. You couldn't make this up.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So who in the county is responsible specifically? Is it an external agency reporting to the county board?

If you are involved in education in this area, "the county" refers to FCPS.

FCPS operates the TJ Admissions process through an office that is solely tasked with that responsibility. The TJ Admissions Office and process is under the umbrella of the Chief Equity Officer, a position currently held by Dr. Nardos King. Dr. King, among several other positions, was formerly the principal at Mt. Vernon High School.

So the chief equity officer is responsible for the admissions test. Cool!

Sure, in a sense. She is responsible for managing the people who decide how to implement the policy adopted by the School Board.

Isn't her performance metrics different though - given that she is chief equity officer?

Seems like CEO is now Chief Equity Officer at this organization! The chief equity officer is now responsible for the admissions test. Given how she is measured, literally, equity is the key consideration, not merit. You couldn't make this up.

Why would you have to make it up? It's a resource and it makes sense for all parties involved to distribute it in a manner that promotes both excellence and equity. They're not mutually exclusive goals, as much as people on this board would make you believe that they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Are people already aware that there was a loophole to the verification?

Filling out the online FRM form allowed the parents to claim low income without producing documentation. The TJ Admissions office only needed confirmation that the parents had submitted the form.

This is insane.

Do all FARMS kids at all schools need to prove it with documentation? Or is it just TJ?

FARMS families have to provide documentation in order to receive FARMs. So yes, all FARMs kids have to prove it. It was a box that you could check on the TJ application and you did not have to submit documentation at the time the application was due.

You don't just call the school and say "My kid is a FARMs kid" or check a box on the form at your base school. You apply and provide the approved paperwork to your school.

You don't make a phone call. This year, there was a online form. You could easily fudge the numbers. The "approved paperwork" was hitting the submit button.

Have you gone through the process? I have not so I have no clue if it is as simple as you say, I would assume that they ask for records that prove that you are eligible for FARMs. It is a program that receives Federal or State Funds, pretty sure it is Federal Funds so there is going to be some sort of audit process. It is probably something that can be gamed but then you risk committing a felony if you are caught and that is bad news.