TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Anonymous wrote:The current meaningless essay exam is nothing short of what is meant by MAGA. The test without placing importance on skill necessary to do well in science and maths, puts emphasis on confirming to woke-maga idea of America.

If you have such a problem with Asian families valuing education, just admit it and stop trying to cover your bigotry by associating it with "MAGA." Your transparent, one-dimensional rants are pathetic.

DP you totally missed the point. The poster is saying admissions should be based on aptitude in math and science not Woke/Maga BS who are two sides of the same idiot coin

TJ should take the top STEM students period. Time to end all these stupid threads

TJ does take the top STEM students. If you aren't at TJ, you are likely not a top STEM student.

That may be true today but previously they took the students who could afford to buy the exam answers.

You are confusing TJ admissions with "Varsity Blues" admissions scandal. Get your facts straight.

Eactly! The old TJ admissions was the Varsity Blues scandal of NVa. Wealthy families were buying their way into TJ by purchasing access to the test through the prep industry.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the prep companies is claiming 85% success rate this year. Appears that the Admissions office managed to make the Pay to Play problem even worse.

Then lottery is the only viable answer.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the prep companies is claiming 85% success rate this year. Appears that the Admissions office managed to make the Pay to Play problem even worse.

Then lottery is the only viable answer.

If the school board has 1/2 a brain, they should do this NOW.

Or change it to an Academy similar to the other FCPS Academies.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the prep companies is claiming 85% success rate this year. Appears that the Admissions office managed to make the Pay to Play problem even worse.

First of all, this company that you're referring to charges a LOT less than similar companies. I won't name them here because I'm not trying to feed them any business.

Second, they hand-select who they will admit into the program based on perceived likelihood of success. Credit to them, but they won't take the money of a family who they think has no shot.

Third, their claim of 85% success is unsubstantiated.

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2) No because it is the Counties responsibility to check the submitted paperwork for fraud and not the School Districts
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Do you mean Fairfax County instead of FCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I didn't say that...you are projecting.

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I guess this is why tests like the SAT have fallen in disfavor with so many colleges and universities. Sharing the test answers for the Quant-Q was a big problem and gave those who could afford to purchase them a big advantage for opportunities at PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

They have fallen in disfavor because it blocks their desire to boost minority enrollment.
Asians and whites who pursue test-optional admissions will find themselves doing poorly.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So who in the county is responsible specifically? Is it an external agency reporting to the county board?

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Anonymous wrote:One of the prep companies is claiming 85% success rate this year. Appears that the Admissions office managed to make the Pay to Play problem even worse.

First of all, this company that you're referring to charges a LOT less than similar companies. I won't name them here because I'm not trying to feed them any business.

Second, they hand-select who they will admit into the program based on perceived likelihood of success. Credit to them, but they won't take the money of a family who they think has no shot.

Third, their claim of 85% success is unsubstantiated.

This is all true, but does not counter that prep is extremely effective under the “reformed” system. Admissions are still being gamed.

Lottery would be the best solution.

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I guess this is why tests like the SAT have fallen in disfavor with so many colleges and universities. Sharing the test answers for the Quant-Q was a big problem and gave those who could afford to purchase them a big advantage for opportunities at PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

They have fallen in disfavor because it blocks their desire to boost minority enrollment.
Asians and whites who pursue test-optional admissions will find themselves doing poorly.

Although saying that may make you feel better, it simply isn't true. The tests are optional because they believe their not as meaningful as people once believed.

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I guess this is why tests like the SAT have fallen in disfavor with so many colleges and universities. Sharing the test answers for the Quant-Q was a big problem and gave those who could afford to purchase them a big advantage for opportunities at PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

They have fallen in disfavor because it blocks their desire to boost minority enrollment.
Asians and whites who pursue test-optional admissions will find themselves doing poorly.

Some like MIT has already moved on from these trend. Now that univ maynot be undesirable for many.

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I guess this is why tests like the SAT have fallen in disfavor with so many colleges and universities. Sharing the test answers for the Quant-Q was a big problem and gave those who could afford to purchase them a big advantage for opportunities at PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

They have fallen in disfavor because it blocks their desire to boost minority enrollment.
Asians and whites who pursue test-optional admissions will find themselves doing poorly.

Some like MIT has already moved on from these trend. Now that univ maynot be undesirable for many.

But CalTech just extended test optional for 2 more years.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the prep companies is claiming 85% success rate this year. Appears that the Admissions office managed to make the Pay to Play problem even worse.

First of all, this company that you're referring to charges a LOT less than similar companies. I won't name them here because I'm not trying to feed them any business.

Second, they hand-select who they will admit into the program based on perceived likelihood of success. Credit to them, but they won't take the money of a family who they think has no shot.

Third, their claim of 85% success is unsubstantiated.

This is all true, but does not counter that prep is extremely effective under the “reformed” system. Admissions are still being gamed.

Lottery would be the best solution.

Alternatively just accept that people in wealthy areas will ensure their kids are prepped, so let them compete against each other to determine the best by instituting geographic norms.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I didn't say that...you are projecting.

I didn't say you said it. I just said you confirmed it. Two different things.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?

They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.

Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.

What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.

In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).

Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.

Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.

Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.

I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.

Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.

So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?

Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.

FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.

There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.

I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.

But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.

This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.

There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...

It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.

This was literally the entire point of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is an entire exam filled with non-standard math questions that are designed to test a student's native problem-solving ability against questions that they've never seen before. It was also a secured exam that both proctors and students were required to sign an NDA for after having seen it.

It became less than useless - and indeed a confounding variable in the admissions process - when, as reported by multiple TJ students, kids memorized the questions, brought them back to Curie, and allowed Curie to create a bank of questions to inform their $5K/year prep classes.

Curie didn't do anything illegal - a few enterprising 8th graders who probably wanted to help their little brothers or sisters did. For this reason, there isn't any value in a potential investigation. But the bottom line is that Curie killed their golden goose and indirectly impacted hundreds, if not thousands, of Indian families in the process.

Never mind the damage they did to their community by releasing the lists of first and last names of the students who were admitted - and identified many of them as Loudoun County residents by indicating that they were also admitted to AOS and AET.

If you ever needed evidence that Dr. Rao was in this solely to make an easy buck off of Indian families (because remember, literally 100% of Curie TJ/AOS/AET admits are South Asian), that was it. He used them to sell his program and made millions as a result.

Quant Q by your definition is standardized. Just like SAT. Rediitt has hundreds of students sharing SAT questions after they attend the exam and prep centers help here too.
So my point remains. TJ could have come up with non-standardized tests with all the millions at their disposal.

The SATs are standardized but not secured. There is no agreement that students sign not to share the questions on the exam and the point of the SAT isn’t to test people on how they respond to question types that they haven’t seen.

Additionally, the school itself has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the admissions process.

So if school is not responsible, who is? Nobody? I have nothing to do with TJ. Just a curious onlooker.

The county. But I appreciate your confirmation that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So who in the county is responsible specifically? Is it an external agency reporting to the county board?

If you are involved in education in this area, "the county" refers to FCPS.

FCPS operates the TJ Admissions process through an office that is solely tasked with that responsibility. The TJ Admissions Office and process is under the umbrella of the Chief Equity Officer, a position currently held by Dr. Nardos King. Dr. King, among several other positions, was formerly the principal at Mt. Vernon High School.