Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

It’s so improbable that they would be able to identify 7,000 people who have died in the last 2 weeks, with scarce resources and in an active war zone.

Remember how long it took to identify how many people died in the Maui fires and how much the numbers changed in terms of how many people died?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

Are you not outraged by antisemitism in US colleges?

Hello Main Character Syndrome sufferer, please seek help. Not everything is, or has to be about you.

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Anonymous wrote:For those watching, like me, Human Rights Watch is still silent regarding the documentary evidence of Hamas atrocities on 10/7 that was provided to outside journalists and human rights organizations. They have said nothing.

This is after waiting nearly two weeks to take a stand on the hostages, while simultaneously taking an immediate stand on use of white phosphorus.

Maybe the “documented evidence” is faulty?

A significant percentage of the evidence reviewed came directly from Hamas’ own channels.

For instance, the widely-seen slow beheading of the Thai farm worker with a garden hoe came directly from Hamas.

I find the silence from HRW completely inexplicable.

If find your continued lying about “silence from HRW” to be completely inexplicable. They indeed released an analysis of the footage and declared it a war crime: https://www.hrw.org/video-photos/video/2023/10/17/israel/palestine-videos-hamas-led-attacks-verified

I explicitly talked about silence from HRW about the evidence provided by Israel to journalists on Monday 10/23 of human rights atrocities. The link you posted pre-dates the evidence session provided by Israel. You must be deliberately misreading what I wrote, specifically to hide the fact that HRW has been silent about the presentation of evidence gathered. There has not been anything written about the disclosures made to journalists, although they were extensive and detailed.

Also, even looking at the link you provided — which doesn’t address my initial point whatsoever — it talks about validating four videos. Four. That’s it. We know there are hundreds of videos (HRW even says as much) but they have only validated four of them.

Are you taking the position that is a reasonable position for an organization focused on human rights for all (at least in theory) to take?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden and Kirby just don't want to be caught up in the same stupid rhetorical game that we've seen play out on this thread. It's nothing nefarious.

No, it's an example of how awful Biden has been during these few weeks. When asked about the number of deaths, he could have said some platitudes about the loss of innocents in war without degrading the ministry and the deaths of the people in Gaza.

In past conflicts, the numbers the ministry provided were very close, within a few %, of numbers compiled later by UN and even the Israeli government.

It just makes Biden look callous to the losses of innocent lives in Gaza.

Here's a good article by the AP about it:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

Are you not outraged by antisemitism in US colleges?

Hello Main Character Syndrome sufferer, please seek help. Not everything is, or has to be about you.

I am going to assume that you condone it then

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

Are you not outraged by antisemitism in US colleges?

I’m more outraged that Palestinian families are being stabbed to death in the United States because they’re Palestinian.

This month, I’ve read a lot of rhetoric about how terrifying it is to be a Jewish student in college and seeing protests for Palestinians rights. I’ve seen countless examples of “horrible antisemitism” that includes anything from ripping a poster, stepping on a flag or hanging out in a library to avoid a protest. Yet, the only actual student who was physically attacked this month was a Palestinian kindergartener in Chicago who was stabbed to death to preemptively protect Jews from antisemitism. His mom was brutally stabbed as well.

Please be cognizant of your rhetoric.

Some people take you more seriously than you take yourself. A 6 year old was brutally stabbed to death in the United States. His mom barely survived the attack.

It’s a scary time to be a Palestinian child, no matter what continent you live on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

It’s so improbable that they would be able to identify 7,000 people who have died in the last 2 weeks, with scarce resources and in an active war zone.

Remember how long it took to identify how many people died in the Maui fires and how much the numbers changed in terms of how many people died?

Wow the audacity of you all to doubt the number of Palestinians dead and to cast doubt on the figures. You will do or say anything to justify killing Palestinians. Biden is a fool and he has a big role to play in what is happening in Gaza. He is so senile he can’t even pronounce his words properly. At this point, he is just being told what to say verbatim and he says it while squinting his eyes. What an embarrassment.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

Are you not outraged by antisemitism in US colleges?

Hello Main Character Syndrome sufferer, please seek help. Not everything is, or has to be about you.

Go find a pro-Palestine rally.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

Interesting that PP thinks that if Jews were to convert to the local religions they would not be prosecuted. Doesn’t explain why Roma who are majority Christian were prosecuted throughout Europe. Or, why Kurds who are Sunni Muslims prosecuted in Turkey and Iraq.

Here is an interesting question, Kurds have been fighting to have a homeland for centuries. Where is 800+ page for them? Turkey exterminates and fights against the Kurds in the most brutal way. But no objections from DCUM. Double standards.

Or Jews who converted to other religions and were killed in the Holocaust.

Even nuns were killed in the Holocaust if they had Jewish ancestry!

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

Interesting that PP thinks that if Jews were to convert to the local religions they would not be prosecuted. Doesn’t explain why Roma who are majority Christian were prosecuted throughout Europe. Or, why Kurds who are Sunni Muslims prosecuted in Turkey and Iraq.

Here is an interesting question, Kurds have been fighting to have a homeland for centuries. Where is 800+ page for them? Turkey exterminates and fights against the Kurds in the most brutal way. But no objections from DCUM. Double standards.

Or Jews who converted to other religions and were killed in the Holocaust.

Even nuns were killed in the Holocaust if they had Jewish ancestry!

Of course. Because it was never about religion. It was about ethnicity.

It was about the notion that Jews are not white.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

Interesting that PP thinks that if Jews were to convert to the local religions they would not be prosecuted. Doesn’t explain why Roma who are majority Christian were prosecuted throughout Europe. Or, why Kurds who are Sunni Muslims prosecuted in Turkey and Iraq.

Here is an interesting question, Kurds have been fighting to have a homeland for centuries. Where is 800+ page for them? Turkey exterminates and fights against the Kurds in the most brutal way. But no objections from DCUM. Double standards.

It’s persecuted, not prosecuted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

Are you not outraged by antisemitism in US colleges?

I’m more outraged that Palestinian families are being stabbed to death in the United States because they’re Palestinian.

This month, I’ve read a lot of rhetoric about how terrifying it is to be a Jewish student in college and seeing protests for Palestinians rights. I’ve seen countless examples of “horrible antisemitism” that includes anything from ripping a poster, stepping on a flag or hanging out in a library to avoid a protest. Yet, the only actual student who was physically attacked this month was a Palestinian kindergartener in Chicago who was stabbed to death to preemptively protect Jews from antisemitism. His mom was brutally stabbed as well.

Please be cognizant of your rhetoric.

Some people take you more seriously than you take yourself. A 6 year old was brutally stabbed to death in the United States. His mom barely survived the attack.

It’s a scary time to be a Palestinian child, no matter what continent you live on. [/quote


I have no rhetoric.I asked YOU if antisemitism on campus is ok. You respond with a tirade about something that has nothing to do with antisemitism on US campuses. You are the one with a rhetoric, unable to answer questions concisely. The soup in your head is boiling over and spilling out of your ears. The horrific murder of the Palestinian boy had nothing to do with antisemitism but everything to do with Islamophobia. The landlord was obviously deranged. I bet you are the poster who keeps blaming Israel for the hospital bombing that sparked all the outrage and turned out to be Hamas all along.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

It’s so improbable that they would be able to identify 7,000 people who have died in the last 2 weeks, with scarce resources and in an active war zone.

Remember how long it took to identify how many people died in the Maui fires and how much the numbers changed in terms of how many people died?

Well, you must know more than the Palestinians in Gaza because you seem to have a social media degree in baloney and hogwash.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

Are you not outraged by antisemitism in US colleges?

I’m more outraged that Palestinian families are being stabbed to death in the United States because they’re Palestinian.

This month, I’ve read a lot of rhetoric about how terrifying it is to be a Jewish student in college and seeing protests for Palestinians rights. I’ve seen countless examples of “horrible antisemitism” that includes anything from ripping a poster, stepping on a flag or hanging out in a library to avoid a protest. Yet, the only actual student who was physically attacked this month was a Palestinian kindergartener in Chicago who was stabbed to death to preemptively protect Jews from antisemitism. His mom was brutally stabbed as well.

Please be cognizant of your rhetoric.

Some people take you more seriously than you take yourself. A 6 year old was brutally stabbed to death in the United States. His mom barely survived the attack.

It’s a scary time to be a Palestinian child, no matter what continent you live on.

Sort of like Anne Frank "hanging out" in an attic?
They were hiding in there and an angry mob was trying to break down the door. They had to be escorted out underground.

And no, that doesn't mean that I think what they went through is worse than being stabbed. Of course not.
But Jews have genuine fear for their lives. There have been cases of armed intruders breaking into Jewish homes. Those families are lucky they weren't stabbed. I mean, I guess we can just wait a few days for a Jew to actually get stabbed, if that will help.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

It’s so improbable that they would be able to identify 7,000 people who have died in the last 2 weeks, with scarce resources and in an active war zone.

Remember how long it took to identify how many people died in the Maui fires and how much the numbers changed in terms of how many people died?

Wow the audacity of you all to doubt the number of Palestinians dead and to cast doubt on the figures. You will do or say anything to justify killing Palestinians. Biden is a fool and he has a big role to play in what is happening in Gaza. He is so senile he can’t even pronounce his words properly. At this point, he is just being told what to say verbatim and he says it while squinting his eyes. What an embarrassment.

DP.

PP above is exactly right: no one has any idea whatsoever how many Palestinians have been killed.

Plus, Hamas is not exactly...credible? Sane? Remember that they also hate Rotarians and Lions Clubs, for reasons that I can't quite fathom.

So major points for Biden here--he's right, just as he was on Ukraine.