Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:Time to free Palestine. We would save billions in money and countless lives.

As for these billionaires pulling jobs and money from schools, I bet they are deeply racist against Muslims and never hire them. It’s great they are making public statements. Now I hope someone tracks back and see how racist their companies are.

I've started and run 2 companies.

I gladly hire Muslims.

I would NEVER hire anyone who's publicly siding with Hamas ("resistance is justified") or is anti-Israel (Israel is "entirely responsible"), etc.

And no, I'm not Jewish. I just don't knowingly hire idiots or a**sholes.

Yup. I’ve been on hiring panels and would immediately disqualify someone from consideration if they held extreme views like that.

Yes. I think allowing extreme “social justice” language to proliferate on Twitter etc has really warped some young people’s sense of reality. It’s not ok to make public statements that celebrate death or espouse the destruction of an entire country. It’s also always going to be dicey to make political statements about a country that is not yours - you may drastically misunderstand what you are aligning with.

Yes. People that are picking “sides” here are showing an extreme lack of judgment. It is not hard to say that you are worried about the situation, mourn the loss of innocent lives and are hoping for peace, if you must say something.

People who say things like this get bashed for not immediately calling out Hamas as terrorists (but you are not allowed to call out Israel's response).

If the statement is made in a way that suggests Hamas’s acts were justified - that’s a problem. If you don’t understand the situation or feel like you are just going to get attacked maybe just don’t say anything. Nobody actually needs your social media takes.

I generally don't post anything political on my social media accounts. Our local school system (MCPS) got bashed pretty aggressively for sending out a nonspecific letter expressing concern for everyone impacted, because they didn't specifically call out Hamas. A lot of people are demanding folks take sides.

It depends on timing. If on 10/8 you’re not expressing grief for victims and families, but are expressing worry about the future loss of life in Gaza, you’re showing your ass. If you didn’t express any grief on 10/8 I don’t want to hear you grieving a week later about the loss of Palestinian lives without putting it in context of what just happened.

That why it’s better to be quiet unless you have a brain.

Why are people required to express grief in your schedule? Why would someone who is a genuine anti-war pacifist, watching news that week in shock and bewilderment, be a “bad person” if he waited until 10/13 and said this the horrors committed by all made a cease fire necessary?

You’re such a pouty child. Not a serious person in the slightest.

That is an interesting insult. I’ll take it. I don’t claim to be serious. I do think that people who are only talking about tragedy on one side in this conflict have black holes in their brains.

It’s a warranted insult. I don’t have anyone in my family, nor any friends, who are only concerned with loss of life within the Palestinian nor the Israeli civilian populations. I doubt that that is unusual. I despise the conflation of true compassion with fringe opinion, and tarring people who want a cease fire and serious, not at a trickle’s pace, humanitarian aid, to be terrorist lovers. That’s repulsive and dishonest argument.

I saw friends say not a peep after 10/7, only to start wailing about civilian casualties in Gaza a few days later. You’re welcome to draw your own conclusion about that. I drew mine.

And I saw friends demanding everyone check in on their Jewish friends after several days without any concern for anyone who is not Jewish.

I checked in on all my friends who might themselves be or have family directly impacted, regardless of their religion. I don't put out statements on social media about any current events or anything political.

Aren’t you wonderful!

Well certainly not as great as you are

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Anonymous wrote:For those watching, like me, Human Rights Watch is still silent regarding the documentary evidence of Hamas atrocities on 10/7 that was provided to outside journalists and human rights organizations. They have said nothing.

This is after waiting nearly two weeks to take a stand on the hostages, while simultaneously taking an immediate stand on use of white phosphorus.

ffs just stop, you’re absurd. HRW literally released a report analyzing 10/7 footage saying it was a war crime. https://www.hrw.org/video-photos/video/2023/10/17/israel/palestine-videos-hamas-led-attacks-verified

I’m not sure why you have such a dogged gripe against HRW since they are, afaik, the only international organization actually holding Hamas to account.

The warmongers who want to flatten Gaza have a lot of hatred for NGO groups and the press. It’s interesting, hm.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

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Sorry I meant that you think we were persecuted primarily due to religion. Wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

Interesting that PP thinks that if Jews were to convert to the local religions they would not be prosecuted. Doesn’t explain why Roma who are majority Christian were prosecuted throughout Europe. Or, why Kurds who are Sunni Muslims prosecuted in Turkey and Iraq.

Here is an interesting question, Kurds have been fighting to have a homeland for centuries. Where is 800+ page for them? Turkey exterminates and fights against the Kurds in the most brutal way. But no objections from DCUM. Double standards.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so we are clear on the alignments

Driven by relentless U.S. escalation. Putin is very shrewd, don’t see him offering support, mostly a photo op/political point scoring at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden and Kirby just don't want to be caught up in the same stupid rhetorical game that we've seen play out on this thread. It's nothing nefarious.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirby doubles down on Biden’s skepticism of Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers.

While Biden and Kirby have discredited the source of the information, they have yet to provide their own numbers. I am sure Biden is just trying to save face by minimizing the number of Gazans Israel has killed. Anyway, Gaza health officials have published the names of the 7,000 who have died recently in Gaza. Maybe Biden needs to be sent a list so he can cross check with his intelligence lackeys to see who is or isn't alive in Gaza.

Biden is too outraged by the “grotesque” antisemitism in US colleges to review the savagery that he co-signs. Maybe Gaza health officials can send him morgue photos of all the Gaza children with their names written on their small hands so they could be identified under the rubble.

Are you not outraged by antisemitism in US colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

Interesting that PP thinks that if Jews were to convert to the local religions they would not be prosecuted. Doesn’t explain why Roma who are majority Christian were prosecuted throughout Europe. Or, why Kurds who are Sunni Muslims prosecuted in Turkey and Iraq.

Here is an interesting question, Kurds have been fighting to have a homeland for centuries. Where is 800+ page for them? Turkey exterminates and fights against the Kurds in the most brutal way. But no objections from DCUM. Double standards.

Or Jews who converted to other religions and were killed in the Holocaust.

[Anonymous]

If anyone knows this DC man contact ADL
https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/1717192833264754781

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone knows this DC man contact ADL
https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/1717192833264754781

That's a really bad idea

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

Interesting that PP thinks that if Jews were to convert to the local religions they would not be prosecuted. Doesn’t explain why Roma who are majority Christian were prosecuted throughout Europe. Or, why Kurds who are Sunni Muslims prosecuted in Turkey and Iraq.

Here is an interesting question, Kurds have been fighting to have a homeland for centuries. Where is 800+ page for them? Turkey exterminates and fights against the Kurds in the most brutal way. But no objections from DCUM. Double standards.

Are you really arguing that it’s not fair that Israel can’t commit genocide as easily as the colonial powers of the 20th century and Turkey?

THAT’s your argument!!?!!

That Israel should get an ethnic cleansing hall pass because it’s their turn to kill some people? Everyone does it ammirite?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the US had a region right next to us that had elected a terrorist organization to run it that has as its goal the eradication of our country, what do you think we would do? Especially if that organization infiltrated the USA and killed 40,000 Americans in one day and took 7,700 people hostage?

I think we would rain holy hell on them and most Americans would be happy to see it.

(Numbers are converted to the equivalent percentage of the US population).

Well your scenario does not track of reality. For that the state next door would have to be filled with refugees forced off their land and out of the United States. The US also would have to be a religious state that keeps the other state in poverty and continually kills it thousands of civilians.

Israel isn’t a theocracy. Jews have always been on the land.

Want to perpetuate any more lies?

Why is there a Star of David on Israel's flag?

A theocracy is a state ruled by clergy or a state that follows religious law.

Israel is not run by Rabbis and does not consider Talmudic law to be its legal system.

Theocracy is a form of government in which one or more deities are recognized as supreme ruling authorities, giving divine guidance to human intermediaries who manage the government's daily affairs,[2][3] or in which human leaders who follow a certain religion are thought of as the ideal and only class of ruler.

Please go back and enroll in Government 101.

Someone substituted the original "religious state" with "theocracy." Israel is a state which, at the very least, privileges one religion over the rest. The poster who used the term "religious state" would have to comment on whether that is what they meant by the phrase.

If we’re talking about precise language, let’s be clear that it isn’t about religion. It’s about ethnicity. Israel gives special privileges to Jews. Most notably right of return. And that has nothing to do with religion.

The Jewish ethnicity has nothing to do with religion? Come on. It's not just a coincidence that ethnic Jews very often happen to be religious Jews.

You don’t get it. Israel doesn’t care if Jews are religious or not. I’m talking about their policies, not generally whether my ethnicity and religion tend to overlap.

Maybe I don't get it. I have a hard time believing that Israel's privileged status for Jewish people are policies adopted with no intent of being beneficial to the religion of Judaism. I don't think Israel is a theocracy. But if religion weren't a factor, there would be no need for Israel in the first place. The Jews of the world were persecuted primarily because of their religion, not because of their ethnicity. If ethnic Jews tended to practice the dominant religion of the areas where they happened to live, there wouldn't have been any special persecution. That's why there is a need for a Jewish homeland.

You think Jews were persecuted primarily due to our ethnicity?

You are massively ignorant.

Did you know Hitler killed Jews who were atheist? Jews who didn’t even know they were Jewish?

Read a damn book please.

Interesting that PP thinks that if Jews were to convert to the local religions they would not be prosecuted. Doesn’t explain why Roma who are majority Christian were prosecuted throughout Europe. Or, why Kurds who are Sunni Muslims prosecuted in Turkey and Iraq.

Here is an interesting question, Kurds have been fighting to have a homeland for centuries. Where is 800+ page for them? Turkey exterminates and fights against the Kurds in the most brutal way. But no objections from DCUM. Double standards.

Are you really arguing that it’s not fair that Israel can’t commit genocide as easily as the colonial powers of the 20th century and Turkey?

THAT’s your argument!!?!!

That Israel should get an ethnic cleansing hall pass because it’s their turn to kill some people? Everyone does it ammirite?

No, my argument, which was obviously lost on you for obvious reasons, is that there are many ethnocentric conflicts that you don’t give a shit about. The reason you only care about one ethnocentric conflict is because of your personal bias against the Jews.