Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

Who is our kids and what would help?

Most schools don’t even have a third of the classes WJ has. Our kids go without, go to MC or other ways if they want it enough.

WJ does have a lot.

What is the solution you would like to see?

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

WJ and Woodward students are now only being offered Kennedy IB even though two other IB programs (RM and BCC) are closer. I'm surprised more WJ parents aren't pointing out that the regional model is increasing their commute while asking them to attend a less established program. Though I guess most WJ kids will just opt to stay at WJ for programs like APEX.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

WJ and Woodward students are now only being offered Kennedy IB even though two other IB programs (RM and BCC) are closer. I'm surprised more WJ parents aren't pointing out that the regional model is increasing their commute while asking them to attend a less established program. Though I guess most WJ kids will just opt to stay at WJ for programs like APEX.

Most kids in MCPS want to stay at their home school and not deal with the logistical challenges of attending school
with a longer commute.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

FARM level of Woodward with Art program will put it at the same level as RM minus IB magnet.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

Woodward will have twice the FARMS comapred to WJ and a meanigless Art program in it. No way both schools will be the same. Even WJ will lose some high level courses.

Current WJ > Future WJ >> Woodward

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Churchill and Whitman will remain safe and untouched.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

WJ and Woodward students are now only being offered Kennedy IB even though two other IB programs (RM and BCC) are closer. I'm surprised more WJ parents aren't pointing out that the regional model is increasing their commute while asking them to attend a less established program. Though I guess most WJ kids will just opt to stay at WJ for programs like APEX.

I hold an IB diploma from 20+ years ago. It was rigorous. But, AP is more respected by colleges. APEX is fine.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

If they provide their own transportation? That's now how public schools work... you can't just pick which one you want if you can Uber there.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

WJ and Woodward students are now only being offered Kennedy IB even though two other IB programs (RM and BCC) are closer. I'm surprised more WJ parents aren't pointing out that the regional model is increasing their commute while asking them to attend a less established program. Though I guess most WJ kids will just opt to stay at WJ for programs like APEX.

I've noticed and this sucks. Plus the math program will be in the 'hood at Wheaton

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

FARM level of Woodward with Art program will put it at the same level as RM minus IB magnet.

so it will be no where near the same level. in other words, it will be a bad school

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

Woodward will have twice the FARMS comapred to WJ and a meanigless Art program in it. No way both schools will be the same. Even WJ will lose some high level courses.

Current WJ > Future WJ >> Woodward

+1, but if you have a shot at Future WJ, you go with WJ. Looking at you Garrett Park. Nice signs on Strathmore.

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Anonymous wrote:Churchill and Whitman will remain safe and untouched.

which illustrate that public schools influence property values. who wants to live in timbuktu

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

Woodward will have twice the FARMS comapred to WJ and a meanigless Art program in it. No way both schools will be the same. Even WJ will lose some high level courses.

Current WJ > Future WJ >> Woodward

+1, but if you have a shot at Future WJ, you go with WJ. Looking at you Garrett Park. Nice signs on Strathmore.

The signs just say keep both sides of the street together. Don’t live there so I don’t know but it sounded like they were fine with either school.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

They can get the classes at MC or go to WJ or another local school if they provide their own transportation. They will still have far more than what our kids get. Woodward will probably be more like WJ.

If they provide their own transportation? That's now how public schools work... you can't just pick which one you want if you can Uber there.

Yes, what many of us have to do now to get our kids needs met. We provide the transportation. It’s horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Woodward won’t have AP classes, and a lot of them, then you know nothing of the families in the areas likely to be part of the Woodward cluster (based on current options).

it wont have as many as IB/AP as BCC, Churchill, Whitman, Blair.... heck, even Wheaton since it will be STEM

Woodward will be inferior to WJ, Whitman, BCC, Chirchill, RM, Wootton and many more HS when it comes to higher level courses.

It's not about what students or families want, it's about having enough numbers to offer higher level courses. With combination of smaller size, high FARMS ES, Art magnet and encouragement for STEM kids to leave Woodward to attend other HS, Woodward will be left with very few students who want to take higher level courses. When HS has 3-4 factors working agasint them, it is going to be hard.

What exactly makes you think that Woodward students will leave Woodward and neighborhood friends etc to attend Wheaton or Kennedy?

Currently WJ kids leave WJ to have better oppurtunities.

Kennedy is unlikely to attract anyone but many high achieving kids from Woodward will opt for WJ( in general) and Wheaton( for Stem).

WJ students have most everything. No one is going to choose Kennedy.

Even Woodward students are not likely to chose Kenneddy, but Woodward students will be forced to go outside HS or MC for higher level courses.

WJ and Woodward students are now only being offered Kennedy IB even though two other IB programs (RM and BCC) are closer. I'm surprised more WJ parents aren't pointing out that the regional model is increasing their commute while asking them to attend a less established program. Though I guess most WJ kids will just opt to stay at WJ for programs like APEX.

I've noticed and this sucks. Plus the math program will be in the 'hood at Wheaton

I’d take Wheaton any day over most schools. Their math teachers are really good. WJ has sp and advanced math classes so it’s a nonissue and they can more easily get to MC. They will be fine. It’s the schools with less that will be far more impacted especially if they take away Wheaton as an option.