Official Abortion Thread
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Anonymous
Because that baby deserves a chance to live. There are plenty of people who were adopted, that live normal lives....even though their biological parents did not want them. |
Anonymous
And how many children have you adopted? |
Anonymous
There are also plenty of people who have fetal alcohol syndrome, who were neglected and abused, and have horrible lives because they were not wanted. So the fact that some people have a good outcome is not the determining factor. Look, I would not have an abortion, but I’ve been pregnant and I can’t comprehend forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term. That is barbaric. I can’t even imagine the mentality of someone who offers lip service to “babies” without realizing that the pregnant woman was once a baby herself and has parents and people who love her, and deserves the right to decide what to do with her health and body. Pregnancy is a serious condition and abortion is a medical procedure. You don’t want to live in a country where women get illegal abortions. It is monstrous. |
Anonymous
So you would tell someone who was adopted, that they should have been aborted because their parents didn't want them? If a potential good outcome for an unwanted person is not the determining factor, then why is a potential bad outcome the determining factor? I don't believe that a woman should be forced to carry a pregnancy to term. She has the right to choices. I just don't agree with all of them. That is equally my right. |
Anonymous
That’s called a straw man argument. An adopted person was not aborted and therefore the question of whether their parents wanted them or not is moot. Whether they are a “potential good outcome” or a “potential bad outcome” is not a factor to me, that is a factor to you. The factor to me is whether the fetus is viable and whether the woman wants it. Abortion isn’t my preference but I cannot reach into another woman’s body. That is the thought process of a misogynistic barbarian who thinks a woman does not know what is best for her. You couch your position in vagaries like “options.” What are those options? What is your position? Either you want the government intimately involved in this decision or you do not. |
Anonymous
I didn't bring up the "potential outcome" argument. I was responding to it. Options: 1) Abort the baby. 2) Have the baby and raise it. 3) Have the baby and place it for adoption. My position is this: The government is already intimately involved in this decision. See Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey. The government was ASKED to be intimately involved, and it was inclined to do so when the SC decided to hear these cases. They have nade their decision on a woman's right to choose one of the above options. I just don't agree with one of them. Just like you don't agree with at least one of them. |
Anonymous
Actually, you don’t comprehend what I agree with. I get it. I think you just have this mental block where you don’t get that a person may think that an abortion is a bad choice but that it is a woman’s right. That’s a real lack of empathy on your part but I guess that’s your prerogative. Maybe because my mother was a physician and she watched a woman bleed out and die from a botched illegal abortion, I have been raised to understand this. It’s unfortunate that you don’t grasp this- if abortions are illegal, more pregnant women and their fetuses will die. Full stop. You are so attached to this symbolic baby you have missed the forest for the trees. Over time it has become clear to me that the issue is controlling women’s sexuality, and I find it gross.. If people who are so passionate about babies in this thread would advocate for free birth control, expanded sex education, and expanded social supports- that would actually reduce abortions. Instead they whine about the women having abortions. |
Anonymous
No, they can’t. It’s called child support. |
Anonymous
That’s an extremely selfish view. And yes, an unborn child can live outside the womb. That’s been possible for decades. I know you’d like to think it is all about the woman, but it isn’t. Also, no one is running around trying to punish women. They are instead trying to save babies. Again, it is back to the scientific point where the baby can be sustained outside of the womb. At that point, abortion should be called murder, not abortion. Yes, of course there are medical circumstances that can prove the exception, but economics and convenience aren’t justification for murdering a human entity capable of being sustained outside the womb. I see this as no different than mass disposal of homeless people off our city streets, but we don’t do that do we? I know you won’t be convinced as you’re incapable of taking emotion out of your thought process. |
Anonymous
I guess we are on different wavelengths. I clearly stated that I get that a woman has a right to choose...and I think one of the choices is bad....but somehow you think that I DON'T get this. That is EXACTLY what I DO get. I also NEVER said that I think that abortions should be illegal...so I don't know where you get this from. It's obvious that you think, that because I don't like that particular choice, I must want abortion illegal. I could care less about controlling women's lives. I support their right to choose. I just don't like one of the choices. |
Anonymous
What are you even talking about? Abortion after viability is illegal. Literally no one said it should be otherwise. Pay attention! |
Anonymous
Good luck with that. What % of single moms actually *receive* child support? |
Anonymous
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Prisons are literally full of unwanted children. I care about my child and I don’t want them to be harmed by someone else’s unwanted baby.
Choice saves lives |
Anonymous
NP. You seem to be the one who does not get it. As the person you are responding to indicates in response to your post s/he has never objected to keeping abortion legal. S/he doesn't want to force anyone to do anything. S/he just wishes people would seek it out in only more extreme circumstances. I agree with her. It has to remain legal for many reasons, but as a society we should work to reduce the number of cases where it is necessary. |
Anonymous
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No one, literally no one said that abortion is preferable.
The pp only said she thinks abortion should be legal when she was taken to task. That whole back and forth only began because she said she would be willing to have someone else’s fetus implanted in her! |