Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

As a daily listener, he was adamant about this. He was bringing it up constantly in completely unrelated interviews includng one i remember with an influencer mom fighting chemicals in food. until about a month ago when he did a complete 180. It was so abrupt that I assumed he realized his life was in danger.

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“Don't worry guys there's a killer on the loose but he only wanted to kill one guy and will be peacefully arrested to face the death penalty, we think!”

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

FFS.

You idiot.

I think it is just as plausible that someone who feels betrayed by Charlie Kirk (Loomer fanatic, anyone?) or who feels he isn't loyal enough to Trump would kill him as much as it s plausible it is someone from the left. After all, the right is well known for retributive violence.

Good lord. We have no idea. Speculating is idiotic and worse than useless—it’s damaging.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

FFS.

You idiot.

I think it is just as plausible that someone who feels betrayed by Charlie Kirk (Loomer fanatic, anyone?) or who feels he isn't loyal enough to Trump would kill him as much as it s plausible it is someone from the left. After all, the right is well known for retributive violence.

Maybe we'll know soon. Whoever it is had to be extremely comfortable with guns to take and make that shot.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

Agreed, Epstein, Kirk but also his proclamation foreign intelligence was involved made him a target. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a nation involved that's an expert at false flag operations.

This is all related. We’re not talking about those files all of a sudden

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

DP. I did not know him before South Park. What was his position on Israel, Epstein and Trump. I assume he was a loyal Trump supporter.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk would be alive if we had sensible gun laws. The right wing of America is off the charts when it comes to having rational gun policies and we are ally paying the price. They have full on embraced fascism. They are the ones who hate America and what it has stood for over the last 200 years. 40,000 Americas died from gun violence last year. Why is Kirk’s life more valuable than any of those who are nameless?

This post is a great example of how not to approach this.

1. I’m in favor of significantly stricter gun laws, but rational gun regulation would not have prevented this shooting. Bolt action rifles are not on anyone’s radar screen for regulation.

2. I loathe Trump and think he’s wrong on most things, his ideas are damaging and costly. But neither he nor his followers are fascists. They don’t hate America. They’re just wrong (arrogantly and abrasively so).

In short, you’re wrong on substance (gun control) and ludicrously extreme in your rhetoric.

Ironically, that makes you much like Trump.

While I don't like being called arrogant and abrasive, thanks for demonstrating a firm grip on reality.

While I disargree that we are wrong, I respect your views and wish more folks were like you because I think you nailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

As a daily listener, he was adamant about this. He was bringing it up constantly in completely unrelated interviews includng one i remember with an influencer mom fighting chemicals in food. until about a month ago when he did a complete 180. It was so abrupt that I assumed he realized his life was in danger.

That’s not his first 180 because he said in July that he trusted the administration when they said there wasn’t a there there.

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I call Cointelpro the 2025 Version.

Hired hit, greenlit or orchestrated by old guard republican entities, who are just trying to save the party that they spent a lifetime building.

They thought they could use Trump and his acolytes, and this guy was just that, to get some of the things they wanted, but things have gotten out of control and that's not good for anyone. Power is on the line.

Leopards eating the face of others is okay, but their faces are a handful of faces too far.

They thought all would be okay because they thought the guardrails would hold, but they haven't, so collectively they've decided they are not willing to let the entire shining city on a hill, go down in one big heaping sh&$t ball of stink flames, at least not without a fight.

So maybe this was a message for Trump and all the roll over do nothings on Cap. Hill.

Or maybe this is just another distraction from Trump et al., I mean is anyone talking about Trump/Epstein today?

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Anonymous wrote:My teenage daughter is devastated. She during covid she became depressed, lost on the internet, she/they etc. She found Charlie Kirk and TPU and it helped her clarify her values, turn to God, and make healthier choices. She sees people on Snapchat celebrating his death.

This assassination will only galvanize the conservative youth. God is moving among and through Gen Z men. They understand that laws will not save us, politics will not save us, only Jesus can save us. Christ is King.

Wow. Makes sense that your daughter is depressed.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk would be alive if we had sensible gun laws. The right wing of America is off the charts when it comes to having rational gun policies and we are ally paying the price. They have full on embraced fascism. They are the ones who hate America and what it has stood for over the last 200 years. 40,000 Americas died from gun violence last year. Why is Kirk’s life more valuable than any of those who are nameless?

This post is a great example of how not to approach this.

1. I’m in favor of significantly stricter gun laws, but rational gun regulation would not have prevented this shooting. Bolt action rifles are not on anyone’s radar screen for regulation.

2. I loathe Trump and think he’s wrong on most things, his ideas are damaging and costly. But neither he nor his followers are fascists. They don’t hate America. They’re just wrong (arrogantly and abrasively so).

In short, you’re wrong on substance (gun control) and ludicrously extreme in your rhetoric.

Ironically, that makes you much like Trump.

Uh, fascists are ultranationalists. This administration is looking like fascism, a perfect example is that Trump is already calling out Democrats (i.e. “enemies”) for a violent murder despite his FBI already finding and releasing two suspects in gross incompetence:

“In simple terms, fascism is a political system and ideology characterized by authoritarian rule, a dictatorial leader, extreme ultranationalism, and a belief in a natural social hierarchy. It suppresses opposition and individual rights, often promoting a vision of national restoration by scapegoating minorities and enemies.”

—DP

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Anonymous wrote:Charlie wasn’t a public official.

Charlie wasn’t a candidate for public office.

Charlie wasn’t a corporate executive, supposedly personally “responsible” for any negative effects of corporate policies.

Charlie wasn’t a foreign diplomat or staff to whom blame for that foreign nation’s policies could be ascribed.

No, Charlie was an advocate for his faith and his political beliefs, as well as for open and cordial debate about both. This was a political assassination at its most basic core - not because someone was angry about a policy that Charlie had enacted, or that he was currently facilitating, or that he might in the future implement - but rather for no other reason than the public expression of his ideas. He was shot because of his discussions about his beliefs and for no other reason; and that should be a wake up call for all of us, right and left.

This will not end well.

You know who else was just expressing his ideas? Goebbels.

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Anonymous wrote:They found the gun

Killer of Charlie Kirk 'appears to be of college age,' police say, and 'blended in' with college population. - AP

This sounds unlikely.

The shooter was well trained. Shooting someone in the head from 200+ yards away and hitting him in the neck… this was not someone who was a weekend shooter.

DP. Hitting a target from 200 yards does require training, but there's a lot of practiced hunters and people with military training who could do it, including a lot of college aged people.

No sh*t Sherlock. A head shot, with a single round, from 200+ yards out, is marksmanship. This is not an individual that started shooting this month. He was formally trained.

- retired Marine.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

DP. I did not know him before South Park. What was his position on Israel, Epstein and Trump. I assume he was a loyal Trump supporter.

There’s a thread by a reporter in Texas that I posted last night that goes into detail on this. Here it is again:

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

FFS.

You idiot.

I think it is just as plausible that someone who feels betrayed by Charlie Kirk (Loomer fanatic, anyone?) or who feels he isn't loyal enough to Trump would kill him as much as it s plausible it is someone from the left. After all, the right is well known for retributive violence.

Good lord. We have no idea. Speculating is idiotic and worse than useless—it’s damaging.

Oh that’s right! The RWNJ’s narrative is correct. It was the liberals! You know the same people who have disappeared and let Trump run the country unopposed suddenly are Jason Bourne.

Do we know where Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi were? Did they have alibis?