Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given that Fulton County is also about the indict him, do you imagine that they have to coordinate with the various judges when he will be available to be in person for court?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/barricades-go-up-around-fulton-county-courthouse-as-trump-indictment-looms

I mean, what if two different jurisdictions are planning to arraign him on the same for different crimes?

Only the best! MAGA!


He doesn't actually have to be in court except if he chooses to testify.

These aren’t civil proceedings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And new charges for Trump himself: seeking to delete the security footage.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/07/27/trump-carlos-deoliveira-classified-indictment/


And there it is. Destroying evidence after getting a subpoena for that evidence. No wiggling out of that one.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given that Fulton County is also about the indict him, do you imagine that they have to coordinate with the various judges when he will be available to be in person for court?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/barricades-go-up-around-fulton-county-courthouse-as-trump-indictment-looms

I mean, what if two different jurisdictions are planning to arraign him on the same for different crimes?

Only the best! MAGA!


He doesn't actually have to be in court except if he chooses to testify.


Yes he does. The defendant can’t skip out on a criminal trial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Attempting to destroy evidence that's been subpoenaed -- that seems particularly serious.

The DOJ has a witness who can testify that "the boss" wanted the subpoenaed surveillance tapes destroyed.

How on earth can TFG wriggle out of this one?


Carlos De Oliveira transmitted the message from Trump to the employee who was asked to delete the tapes. If he does not flip and testify, he could go to jail and Trump would be safe because what the employee heard regarding Trump's wishes is hearsay.


No it’s not. FRE 801(d)(2)
Anonymous
OOOH this is getting good now. too bad half of the population doesn't see how they are seeking to re-elect stupid Watergate for a "third term".

How many Netflix or Hollywood writers are working on this script? Are we sure we are all not in a Black Mirror episode?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OOOH this is getting good now. too bad half of the population doesn't see how they are seeking to re-elect stupid Watergate for a "third term".

How many Netflix or Hollywood writers are working on this script? Are we sure we are all not in a Black Mirror episode?


Seems highly plausible.

What I really think has happened is the culmination of many factors, but overall Americans don't see government working for them so they think it's superfluous. Which is why the election/re-election of someone like Donald Trump is possible. I fear we may find out that government is actually important and that the relative ease of life in America isn't something that should be taken for granted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Attempting to destroy evidence that's been subpoenaed -- that seems particularly serious.

The DOJ has a witness who can testify that "the boss" wanted the subpoenaed surveillance tapes destroyed.

How on earth can TFG wriggle out of this one?


Carlos De Oliveira transmitted the message from Trump to the employee who was asked to delete the tapes. If he does not flip and testify, he could go to jail and Trump would be safe because what the employee heard regarding Trump's wishes is hearsay.


No it’s not. FRE 801(d)(2)


THANK YOU. Doing the Lord's work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OOOH this is getting good now. too bad half of the population doesn't see how they are seeking to re-elect stupid Watergate for a "third term".

How many Netflix or Hollywood writers are working on this script? Are we sure we are all not in a Black Mirror episode?


Seems highly plausible.

What I really think has happened is the culmination of many factors, but overall Americans don't see government working for them so they think it's superfluous. Which is why the election/re-election of someone like Donald Trump is possible. I fear we may find out that government is actually important and that the relative ease of life in America isn't something that should be taken for granted.


Truth is, in a lot of ways, government has been doing things so well that it's invisible to people. I've had a few conversations with libertarian friends where I ask them what they think about regulated drains, and they have no idea what I'm talking about. I explain about government regulated and maintained drainage ditches and tiles that help ensure that land is usable and doesn't flood or sit under water for too long. And they'll mumble about how maybe those laws are ok. Most people who proclaim a love of small government don't seem to have a clear idea of what government does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OOOH this is getting good now. too bad half of the population doesn't see how they are seeking to re-elect stupid Watergate for a "third term".

How many Netflix or Hollywood writers are working on this script? Are we sure we are all not in a Black Mirror episode?


Seems highly plausible.

What I really think has happened is the culmination of many factors, but overall Americans don't see government working for them so they think it's superfluous. Which is why the election/re-election of someone like Donald Trump is possible. I fear we may find out that government is actually important and that the relative ease of life in America isn't something that should be taken for granted.


Truth is, in a lot of ways, government has been doing things so well that it's invisible to people. I've had a few conversations with libertarian friends where I ask them what they think about regulated drains, and they have no idea what I'm talking about. I explain about government regulated and maintained drainage ditches and tiles that help ensure that land is usable and doesn't flood or sit under water for too long. And they'll mumble about how maybe those laws are ok. Most people who proclaim a love of small government don't seem to have a clear idea of what government does.

And the idea that the government is non functional is an idea the GOP has been pushing hard since Reagan. It’s not a coincidence that none of those dumb clucks knows what the government does and why America has such a high standard of living (or would, if the GOP hadn’t also spent the last forty plus years trying to wreck it); their ignorance is by right wing media design.

And more charges today.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OOOH this is getting good now. too bad half of the population doesn't see how they are seeking to re-elect stupid Watergate for a "third term".

How many Netflix or Hollywood writers are working on this script? Are we sure we are all not in a Black Mirror episode?


Seems highly plausible.

What I really think has happened is the culmination of many factors, but overall Americans don't see government working for them so they think it's superfluous. Which is why the election/re-election of someone like Donald Trump is possible. I fear we may find out that government is actually important and that the relative ease of life in America isn't something that should be taken for granted.


Which has been why the Biden strategy from Day 1 is to show that government can work for the people. Getting Vaccines out, lowering egg prices, unblocking the supply chains/ports etc, getting manufacturing going, bailing out banks and otherwise getting the economy going, people working, unemployment low, etc. The GOP ultimately wants an oligarch style dystopian state where the people are chattel in an ecological hellhole.
Anonymous
If you still support Trump at this point, take a good hard look in the mirror. You're in a cult.

I don't care if you hate Joe Biden or Democrats in general. In no sane world should this translate to support of Trump (or anyone like him). And don't even bother with the whataboutisms or "Hunter Biden did...something" crap.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

NGL that made me smile.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you still support Trump at this point, take a good hard look in the mirror. You're in a cult.

I don't care if you hate Joe Biden or Democrats in general. In no sane world should this translate to support of Trump (or anyone like him). And don't even bother with the whataboutisms or "Hunter Biden did...something" crap.


Yup. And if you have to work through very strained reasoning like, "God works through flawed vessels" you can be doubly sure you're part of a cult. Maybe more than one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you still support Trump at this point, take a good hard look in the mirror. You're in a cult.

I don't care if you hate Joe Biden or Democrats in general. In no sane world should this translate to support of Trump (or anyone like him). And don't even bother with the whataboutisms or "Hunter Biden did...something" crap.


Yup. And if you have to work through very strained reasoning like, "God works through flawed vessels" you can be doubly sure you're part of a cult. Maybe more than one.

The way you wrote this makes it sound like you have heard that from a family member or friend’s mouth. I’m sorry. I know what that’s like.
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