Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

[Anonymous]

I don’t see how anyone could believe her simply based on the fact that sooo many of her lies have been so easily disproven. She’s looking pathological at this point. The whole guitar thing? The alleged beatings with no visible marks, witnesses or photos yet she has random photos and recordings of everything else? So bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She's totally acting on that stand.

NO way, she's a bit cray, cray but there are TOO MANY incidents she recalled.

He was too fcked up to remember anything.

He was mentally abusive and all his YES people chose to look the other way.

He's a druggy.

Lol. If she recalls “TOO MANY” incidents, then that means she is telling the truth? Haha.

[Anonymous]

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Jennifer Grey also said in her book that Johnny was possessive and jealous.

Ah, the forgotten uggo! Must be true.

Kate Moss isn’t an uggo and documented cases (I.e. police involvement) of his destroying property around her in arguments. I find that abusive and jealous behavior.

[Anonymous]

Are you guys using uggo for physical ugliness? wtf are you 14?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m separating from my husband, a man who is a drug addiction, alcoholic, and abusive as hell. And also very charming. He can be funny. He can seem caring.

This thread exemplifies everything I fear about the way that women - or people, generally - in abusive relationships are treated when they come forward. Doubted. Judged on whether or not they cry at the right time. Accused of lying because the abuser seems like a nice guy (hint: most abusers do).

1. Why did you marry him in the first place?



2. Why do you care what people think? Just divorce him and move on -- he sounds like a terrible person.

I am divorcing him. Separating is legally the first step. I don’t care what people think. I’m pointing out that people like you and others on this forum immediately attack the woman in the scenario (see your first question). I married him because like. Any abusive narcissistic people, my husband was very sweet, charming, manipulative. These type of abusers are hard to spot at first, especially if you’re not someone who is well versed in narcissistic abuse cycles. Your first question is just a form of victim blaming. Sickening.

Yet you’re here attacking the man who was abused by the woman. That’s pretty sickening.

This isn’t a both sides thing, Johnny.

[Anonymous]

The fake tearless crying is hysterical to me.

[Anonymous]

I never would have had any idea what a jerk Depp is if he hadn't brought this to trial, so that was a great move. A+

[Anonymous]

Wtf!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t find her believable at all probably because so many people came forward and said not a scratch not a bruise on her and their time together was so brief. She was cheating on him with Musk just a month after they married.
I think she’s crazy. Really crazy but crazy like a fox to have gotten this far. I’m not a big fan of Depp but when I looked him up he is a very big actor. She was after his money then stepped it up hoping to catch an even richer guy: Musk.
Her face when she was speaking about the carpet (the only part I saw) seemed to fall more into rage and hate lines than what she was saying. Her words said one thing her face another. It’s all fake.
As for other abused women I don’t think she is the best role model or advocate. She’s an abuser herself.

She was also hoping to propel her acting career. And she knew there's a very narrow window to make that happen, so she was frantic. That's also why she was so jealous he was still landing movie roles and the fragrance commercial. She was projecting her envy. She wanted those fragrance commercials, she wanted A-list work.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m separating from my husband, a man who is a drug addiction, alcoholic, and abusive as hell. And also very charming. He can be funny. He can seem caring.

This thread exemplifies everything I fear about the way that women - or people, generally - in abusive relationships are treated when they come forward. Doubted. Judged on whether or not they cry at the right time. Accused of lying because the abuser seems like a nice guy (hint: most abusers do).

1. Why did you marry him in the first place?



2. Why do you care what people think? Just divorce him and move on -- he sounds like a terrible person.

I am divorcing him. Separating is legally the first step. I don’t care what people think. I’m pointing out that people like you and others on this forum immediately attack the woman in the scenario (see your first question). I married him because like. Any abusive narcissistic people, my husband was very sweet, charming, manipulative. These type of abusers are hard to spot at first, especially if you’re not someone who is well versed in narcissistic abuse cycles. Your first question is just a form of victim blaming. Sickening.

Yet you’re here attacking the man who was abused by the woman. That’s pretty sickening.

This isn’t a both sides thing, Johnny.

You’re right. Because men cannot be abused.

[Anonymous]

Can somebody summarize the list of claims Johnny Depp has against Amber and vice versa? I have not been following the trial and I started reading this thread and it is so long and overwhelming. I read somewhere about pooping on beds, cutting off fingers, he’s hit her and held her dog out of a window or something, etc

Can somebody just summarize “this is with Johnny Depp did” per AH testimony and this is what “Amber did per J D’s testimony?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m separating from my husband, a man who is a drug addiction, alcoholic, and abusive as hell. And also very charming. He can be funny. He can seem caring.

This thread exemplifies everything I fear about the way that women - or people, generally - in abusive relationships are treated when they come forward. Doubted. Judged on whether or not they cry at the right time. Accused of lying because the abuser seems like a nice guy (hint: most abusers do).

1. Why did you marry him in the first place?



2. Why do you care what people think? Just divorce him and move on -- he sounds like a terrible person.

I am divorcing him. Separating is legally the first step. I don’t care what people think. I’m pointing out that people like you and others on this forum immediately attack the woman in the scenario (see your first question). I married him because like. Any abusive narcissistic people, my husband was very sweet, charming, manipulative. These type of abusers are hard to spot at first, especially if you’re not someone who is well versed in narcissistic abuse cycles. Your first question is just a form of victim blaming. Sickening.

Yet you’re here attacking the man who was abused by the woman. That’s pretty sickening.

This isn’t a both sides thing, Johnny.

You’re right. Because men cannot be abused.

Sure they can. Just not in this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wtf!!!

That’s an interesting way to blow your nose…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m separating from my husband, a man who is a drug addiction, alcoholic, and abusive as hell. And also very charming. He can be funny. He can seem caring.

This thread exemplifies everything I fear about the way that women - or people, generally - in abusive relationships are treated when they come forward. Doubted. Judged on whether or not they cry at the right time. Accused of lying because the abuser seems like a nice guy (hint: most abusers do).

1. Why did you marry him in the first place?



2. Why do you care what people think? Just divorce him and move on -- he sounds like a terrible person.

I am divorcing him. Separating is legally the first step. I don’t care what people think. I’m pointing out that people like you and others on this forum immediately attack the woman in the scenario (see your first question). I married him because like. Any abusive narcissistic people, my husband was very sweet, charming, manipulative. These type of abusers are hard to spot at first, especially if you’re not someone who is well versed in narcissistic abuse cycles. Your first question is just a form of victim blaming. Sickening.

Yet you’re here attacking the man who was abused by the woman. That’s pretty sickening.

This isn’t a both sides thing, Johnny.

You’re right. Because men cannot be abused.

Sure they can. Just not in this case.

she cut off his finger and pooped in his bed. what do you call that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They both seem like deeply disturbed people who brought out the worst in each other.

I think the problem with the op-ed is that Heard lied by omission. She wasn't honest about the part she played in their dynamic. But that doesn't mean she lied about her characterization of Depp's behavior during the marriage and it doesn't exonerate him from responsibility for his part in the crazy. She simply excluded from her argument the evidence of her own crazy behavior or counter-arguments that would have painted the more complex picture we're seeing play out now in court.

To those of you who know the law, is it still defamation if the op-ed was technically accurate but still misleading by way of omission? That seems like a really hard needle to thread. Most op-eds ignore counter-arguments and rebuttals.

Honestly, I think he wins even if he loses. Even if the court finds against him on defamation, he's proved the point that his marriage was a complicated sh*tshow and that he and Heard should most certainly never be in the same room again, but that doesn't mean he should never be allowed to work again because he's some sort of habitual abuser. I expect that over the next year or two we'll see him do some low-budget, critically-acclaimed art films, maybe trip through rehab, and then he'll be back where he was before the op-ed.

the issue with the op ed is not whether it is truthful or balanced- their divorce settlement included an agreement that they would not talk about each other afterward or disparage each other- so if her op ed does not ID Depp, is she OK writing it OR as he argues, is it obviously about him, even without his name in it, and "defamation" which violates their agreement and negatively impacts his family, his work prospects, his income, etc.