Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

Anonymous
Time to take off that tin foil hat. Let it go...or not. Your choice. Sanity awaits you...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance


Think of the benefits of them not being next to each other too though - if there is an incident at the HS you dont have to also worry about the MS nearby. You dont have to worry about HS students dating MS students. You don't have to worry about MS students being exposed to HS drugs (and lets not pretend there are not drug users at Wootton - and that they arent from the neighborhood, because there are for sure plenty)


The issues you mentioned above have never been a problem for my DD. However, I also have a younger child who will attend Frost in the future. Losing the connected orchestra/band program, after-school clubs and tutoring, and many other valuable partnerships would be a significant loss for our family


there's no mandate in the boundary process to maintain a connected MS/HS campus. It might be the only joint campus existing in the county, just by geographical chance. There's 2 ES's that don't feed into frost who didn't have access to those clubs, orchestra, and valuable partnerships to begin with. those are "extras" that frost students have the privilege of access to.

This mindset is exactly why MCPS is declining so rapidly. Programs and schools that work well and benefit students are often criticized simply because they’re viewed as inequitable or a privilege. Instead of finding ways to expand successful opportunities, the approach seems to be to eliminate them and leaving everyone with the bare minimum while taxpayers continue to fund a system that lacks transparency and accountability


Only the W schools have these kids of programs; the other schools would have to offer them to get them eliminated. We've never had anything but the bare minimum.


You’re satisfied with the bare minimum, and then you expect everyone else to accept the bare minimum too. Meanwhile, MCPS seems perfectly content to sit back, stay relaxed, and watch communities fight among themselves.


DP - that hot take really sucked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance


Think of the benefits of them not being next to each other too though - if there is an incident at the HS you dont have to also worry about the MS nearby. You dont have to worry about HS students dating MS students. You don't have to worry about MS students being exposed to HS drugs (and lets not pretend there are not drug users at Wootton - and that they arent from the neighborhood, because there are for sure plenty)


The issues you mentioned above have never been a problem for my DD. However, I also have a younger child who will attend Frost in the future. Losing the connected orchestra/band program, after-school clubs and tutoring, and many other valuable partnerships would be a significant loss for our family


there's no mandate in the boundary process to maintain a connected MS/HS campus. It might be the only joint campus existing in the county, just by geographical chance. There's 2 ES's that don't feed into frost who didn't have access to those clubs, orchestra, and valuable partnerships to begin with. those are "extras" that frost students have the privilege of access to.

This mindset is exactly why MCPS is declining so rapidly. Programs and schools that work well and benefit students are often criticized simply because they’re viewed as inequitable or a privilege. Instead of finding ways to expand successful opportunities, the approach seems to be to eliminate them and leaving everyone with the bare minimum while taxpayers continue to fund a system that lacks transparency and accountability


Only the W schools have these kids of programs; the other schools would have to offer them to get them eliminated. We've never had anything but the bare minimum.


You’re satisfied with the bare minimum, and then you expect everyone else to accept the bare minimum too. Meanwhile, MCPS seems perfectly content to sit back, stay relaxed, and watch communities fight among themselves.


No, we aren’t satisfied but we know college without debt is far more important than hs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance


Think of the benefits of them not being next to each other too though - if there is an incident at the HS you dont have to also worry about the MS nearby. You dont have to worry about HS students dating MS students. You don't have to worry about MS students being exposed to HS drugs (and lets not pretend there are not drug users at Wootton - and that they arent from the neighborhood, because there are for sure plenty)


The issues you mentioned above have never been a problem for my DD. However, I also have a younger child who will attend Frost in the future. Losing the connected orchestra/band program, after-school clubs and tutoring, and many other valuable partnerships would be a significant loss for our family


there's no mandate in the boundary process to maintain a connected MS/HS campus. It might be the only joint campus existing in the county, just by geographical chance. There's 2 ES's that don't feed into frost who didn't have access to those clubs, orchestra, and valuable partnerships to begin with. those are "extras" that frost students have the privilege of access to.

This mindset is exactly why MCPS is declining so rapidly. Programs and schools that work well and benefit students are often criticized simply because they’re viewed as inequitable or a privilege. Instead of finding ways to expand successful opportunities, the approach seems to be to eliminate them and leaving everyone with the bare minimum while taxpayers continue to fund a system that lacks transparency and accountability


Only the W schools have these kids of programs; the other schools would have to offer them to get them eliminated. We've never had anything but the bare minimum.


You’re satisfied with the bare minimum, and then you expect everyone else to accept the bare minimum too. Meanwhile, MCPS seems perfectly content to sit back, stay relaxed, and watch communities fight among themselves.


DP - that hot take really sucked.


Wootton families will be fine either way while others go without.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anytime a decision seems really strange it's useful to look at who benefits from its outcome.

Who really benefits from moving high performers into the new high school? The Wootton community is vehemently against it, so not them. There are arguments that Rosemont and Fields Road would benefit, but nobody is opposing them using the school w/o dismantling Wootton.

Developers on the other hand rake in hand over fist on properties sold that are "districted to Wootton". These sell at VERY inflated prices.

The county's EV bus contract was recently cancelled due to corruption.


Of course. This is why, despite moving Wootton being on the drawing board since November 2024 (or May 2024 when it was taken off the CIP), MCPS decided to hide the ball when it first offered a vague Option H on December 1, 2025. Confronted with questions about ambiguities in that version, MCPS realized the jig was up and finally came clean in a reissued Option H on December 3, 2025. But by that time, MCPS could see the finish line and hoped it could delay and outrace there backlash with the holidays. The Wootton community mobilized relatively quickly, leading to very vocal opposition at meetings and petitions- all of which the BOE and MCPS ignored to the beat of their ability.

Why? Because the fix was in and Taylor already had the BOE votes he needed before even proposing Option H.


As evidence that developers will be the winners here, Crown is being renamed Wootton, even though 40% of its student body will not come from Wootton.

Also, renaming Crown to Wootton is a fig leaf for MCPS to avoid running afoul of the COMAR requirements for closing a school.


Sigh...fearmongering or just bad math? Feels like we keep doing this but...Crown will open with about 2200 kids. 1700 will be from Wootton (about 90% of students from Wootton's current feeder pattern). 200 will be from Crown and 300 from Fields Road. More than 75% of the school will be from within Wootton's current boundaries.


Elite level math says otherwise:

500 non-Wootton
1700 Wootton

Therefore 500/1200 = 40%

MCPS busted with lies again!

dp - oh my lord.... Are you a product of MCPS new math by chance?

500+1700 = 2200

500/2200 = 22.7%

The % of non Wootton students = total # of non Wootton students divided by TOTAL students at Crown.


Frost is changed the most compared to Wootton. ~300-400 new students in and 300-400 existing students out for a student body of 900. That’s a completely different middle school and will no longer perform as well as Hoover and cabin John


Frost changing is 100% the reason why parkway parents are mad - the demographics dont line up with what they want. They dont want to look bad. "oh no they are closing wootton" sounds a bit less horrible than "oh no FARMS in our neighborhood"


It’s not that simple. Losing a connected MS-HS campus is a huge loss in addition to lowered performance


Think of the benefits of them not being next to each other too though - if there is an incident at the HS you dont have to also worry about the MS nearby. You dont have to worry about HS students dating MS students. You don't have to worry about MS students being exposed to HS drugs (and lets not pretend there are not drug users at Wootton - and that they arent from the neighborhood, because there are for sure plenty)


The issues you mentioned above have never been a problem for my DD. However, I also have a younger child who will attend Frost in the future. Losing the connected orchestra/band program, after-school clubs and tutoring, and many other valuable partnerships would be a significant loss for our family


there's no mandate in the boundary process to maintain a connected MS/HS campus. It might be the only joint campus existing in the county, just by geographical chance. There's 2 ES's that don't feed into frost who didn't have access to those clubs, orchestra, and valuable partnerships to begin with. those are "extras" that frost students have the privilege of access to.

This mindset is exactly why MCPS is declining so rapidly. Programs and schools that work well and benefit students are often criticized simply because they’re viewed as inequitable or a privilege. Instead of finding ways to expand successful opportunities, the approach seems to be to eliminate them and leaving everyone with the bare minimum while taxpayers continue to fund a system that lacks transparency and accountability


Only the W schools have these kids of programs; the other schools would have to offer them to get them eliminated. We've never had anything but the bare minimum.


You’re satisfied with the bare minimum, and then you expect everyone else to accept the bare minimum too. Meanwhile, MCPS seems perfectly content to sit back, stay relaxed, and watch communities fight among themselves.


DP - that hot take really sucked.


Wootton families will be fine either way while others go without.


And the make sure everyone knows it too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Time to take off that tin foil hat. Let it go...or not. Your choice. Sanity awaits you...


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true. This board is doing the meme.

It is not happening,
Ok, it is happening but it's not bad,
Ok, it might be bad but it won't affect you, Ok, it is happening but it's actually good for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to take off that tin foil hat. Let it go...or not. Your choice. Sanity awaits you...


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true. This board is doing the meme.

It is not happening,
Ok, it is happening but it's not bad,
Ok, it might be bad but it won't affect you, Ok, it is happening but it's actually good for you.


Many students are being redistricted to other schools right now. Many schools are severely overcrowded. Wootton parents are saying their physical school is unsafe. This is a good solution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to take off that tin foil hat. Let it go...or not. Your choice. Sanity awaits you...


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true. This board is doing the meme.

It is not happening,
Ok, it is happening but it's not bad,
Ok, it might be bad but it won't affect you, Ok, it is happening but it's actually good for you.


Try again... there's gotta be a better meme than that.
Anonymous
Well, it sounds like a lot of crazies came out to Wootton this evening. Amazing job showing true vitriolic colors to the teachers and kids there who spoke out about their health concerns with the current state of the school, and want to move. All the cluster WhatsApp chats lighting up! Classy!
Anonymous
That meeting totally. Absolutely insane. You Wootton walkers are DISGRACEFUL. So embarrassing. The Wootton community extends beyond the parkway. It’s not all about the world of Fallsmead.
Anonymous
Winners of today: the Wootton community who somehow made themselves seem EVEN MORE INSANE than already thought to be. Kudos. Truly outstanding work tonight. Not at all sad I left early.
Anonymous
Wootton whiners, parkway parents - still the winner as the absolute worst. YOU ARE EMBARRASSING. It is almost unbelievable - but you've shown us time and time again so it all tracks.

You should probably start those refunds to your legal fund now. Oh wait - yes,you used the Q&A time to con more people out of more money. You hear that dear readers? They plugged their legal fund during the Q&A and acted like fools throughout the whole evening. Classy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wootton whiners, parkway parents - still the winner as the absolute worst. YOU ARE EMBARRASSING. It is almost unbelievable - but you've shown us time and time again so it all tracks.

You should probably start those refunds to your legal fund now. Oh wait - yes,you used the Q&A time to con more people out of more money. You hear that dear readers? They plugged their legal fund during the Q&A and acted like fools throughout the whole evening. Classy


What scandalous event occurred tonight? Was it recorded? 🍿
Anonymous
People are pissed and deserve answers. If you want people to accept what you call is a done deal, then answer their questions. Obfuscation and evasion only make things worse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People are pissed and deserve answers. If you want people to accept what you call is a done deal, then answer their questions. Obfuscation and evasion only make things worse.


What unanswered questions do you still have?
post reply Forum Index » Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS)
Message Quick Reply
Go to: