Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked he wasn't fired immediately. The VHSL says your coach cheated so badly that one of your teams can't be in the playoffs for TWO YEARS and you don't fire him immediately?

They didn’t say anything about the coach cheating.

Oh honey. The infraction was "proselytizing". That means THE COACH RECRUITED players. That's against the rules. Its cheating. The coach cheated. How can you not follow this logic?

No it doesn’t.

“No it doesn’t” what? Mean he recruited? If not him directly, then someone, because what else do you think that rule means? And as head coach, the buck stops with him as far as his players are concerned. No way did that number of kids and their families up and move (assuming there is in fact no merit to the ineligibility claims) to follow him on a whim, and he never asked questions or knew anything about it but just pushed out some 15 former Hayfield players to make room.

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That would certainly seem to be a plausible FCPS response to a situation they should have handled almost immediately. If this was handled correctly, it would have never gotten this far. I feel it’s worse than expected because it wasn’t just school personnel involved. Previously, articles from the summer mention school board and/or county board member/s involvement as well as Michelle Boyd, region 5 asst. superintendent, coach, principal, DSA and student athlete parents. Michelle Reid may have even been handcuffed, as this could have potentially been above her with school board/ county board involvement. Who really knows. We may never know how far up this goes. What we do know is they are banned for 2 two years from post-season play and deserves to be. We’ll have to wait and see if FCPS handles the involved administration and coach/es appropriately, meaning firing each individual involved.

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I don't think the school board can really handcuff the super in most cases.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked he wasn't fired immediately. The VHSL says your coach cheated so badly that one of your teams can't be in the playoffs for TWO YEARS and you don't fire him immediately?

They didn’t say anything about the coach cheating.

Oh honey. The infraction was "proselytizing". That means THE COACH RECRUITED players. That's against the rules. Its cheating. The coach cheated. How can you not follow this logic?

No it doesn’t.

“No it doesn’t” what? Mean he recruited? If not him directly, then someone, because what else do you think that rule means? And as head coach, the buck stops with him as far as his players are concerned. No way did that number of kids and their families up and move (assuming there is in fact no merit to the ineligibility claims) to follow him on a whim, and he never asked questions or knew anything about it but just pushed out some 15 former Hayfield players to make room.

Doesn’t mean the coach did anything. And they didn’t even say what brought them to that conclusion.

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To follow up to some previous posts. After some conversations with people in the know (ie other football parents), FCPS feels really bad for the Hayfield kids. It’s an unfortunate situation all around. FCPS worked really hard with the VHSL over player eligibility, so everyone thought things were hunky-dory, until just a few weeks ago. It really caught everyone off guard.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the school board can really handcuff the super in most cases.

No, in general they can't. They can make statementw. And they can decline to renew a contact, but generally the superintendent is independent of the school board.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked he wasn't fired immediately. The VHSL says your coach cheated so badly that one of your teams can't be in the playoffs for TWO YEARS and you don't fire him immediately?

They didn’t say anything about the coach cheating.

Oh honey. The infraction was "proselytizing". That means THE COACH RECRUITED players. That's against the rules. Its cheating. The coach cheated. How can you not follow this logic?

No it doesn’t.

“No it doesn’t” what? Mean he recruited? If not him directly, then someone, because what else do you think that rule means? And as head coach, the buck stops with him as far as his players are concerned. No way did that number of kids and their families up and move (assuming there is in fact no merit to the ineligibility claims) to follow him on a whim, and he never asked questions or knew anything about it but just pushed out some 15 former Hayfield players to make room.

Doesn’t mean the coach did anything. And they didn’t even say what brought them to that conclusion.

Do you have CTE? Traumatic brain injury from playing too much football?

VHSL found the coach violated their recruiting rules.

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Anonymous wrote:To follow up to some previous posts. After some conversations with people in the know (ie other football parents), FCPS feels really bad for the Hayfield kids. It’s an unfortunate situation all around. FCPS worked really hard with the VHSL over player eligibility, so everyone thought things were hunky-dory, until just a few weeks ago. It really caught everyone off guard.

What good, kind people they are. Nah.

Funny FCPS doesn't feel bad for the bullied kid or the mom who spoke up who has been hounded. They certainly don't feel bad at all for the original kids who got kicked off or chased off the team. FCPS clearly doesn't feel bad for the school staff who spoke up and had to be reassigned. They clearly don't care about the kids from the other schools who had to put up with this unfair situation. They clearly don't feel bad for the kids left at Freedom with no team. I can keep going.

Go read the FB comments by the Hayfield parents with kids on the team. Also the kids are old enough to know that if they are lying about where they live, they are doing something wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked he wasn't fired immediately. The VHSL says your coach cheated so badly that one of your teams can't be in the playoffs for TWO YEARS and you don't fire him immediately?

They didn’t say anything about the coach cheating.

Oh honey. The infraction was "proselytizing". That means THE COACH RECRUITED players. That's against the rules. Its cheating. The coach cheated. How can you not follow this logic?

No it doesn’t.

“No it doesn’t” what? Mean he recruited? If not him directly, then someone, because what else do you think that rule means? And as head coach, the buck stops with him as far as his players are concerned. No way did that number of kids and their families up and move (assuming there is in fact no merit to the ineligibility claims) to follow him on a whim, and he never asked questions or knew anything about it but just pushed out some 15 former Hayfield players to make room.

Doesn’t mean the coach did anything. And they didn’t even say what brought them to that conclusion.

Do you have CTE? Traumatic brain injury from playing too much football?

VHSL found the coach violated their recruiting rules.

The VHSL never said the coach recruited anyone. You really should stop slandering the coach.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked he wasn't fired immediately. The VHSL says your coach cheated so badly that one of your teams can't be in the playoffs for TWO YEARS and you don't fire him immediately?

They didn’t say anything about the coach cheating.

Oh honey. The infraction was "proselytizing". That means THE COACH RECRUITED players. That's against the rules. Its cheating. The coach cheated. How can you not follow this logic?

No it doesn’t.

“No it doesn’t” what? Mean he recruited? If not him directly, then someone, because what else do you think that rule means? And as head coach, the buck stops with him as far as his players are concerned. No way did that number of kids and their families up and move (assuming there is in fact no merit to the ineligibility claims) to follow him on a whim, and he never asked questions or knew anything about it but just pushed out some 15 former Hayfield players to make room.

Doesn’t mean the coach did anything. And they didn’t even say what brought them to that conclusion.

Do you have CTE? Traumatic brain injury from playing too much football?

VHSL found the coach violated their recruiting rules.

The VHSL never said the coach recruited anyone. You really should stop slandering the coach.

Who do you think did the recruiting? If not...the coach?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To follow up to some previous posts. After some conversations with people in the know (ie other football parents), FCPS feels really bad for the Hayfield kids. It’s an unfortunate situation all around. FCPS worked really hard with the VHSL over player eligibility, so everyone thought things were hunky-dory, until just a few weeks ago. It really caught everyone off guard.

What good, kind people they are. Nah.

Funny FCPS doesn't feel bad for the bullied kid or the mom who spoke up who has been hounded. They certainly don't feel bad at all for the original kids who got kicked off or chased off the team. FCPS clearly doesn't feel bad for the school staff who spoke up and had to be reassigned. They clearly don't care about the kids from the other schools who had to put up with this unfair situation. They clearly don't feel bad for the kids left at Freedom with no team. I can keep going.

Go read the FB comments by the Hayfield parents with kids on the team. Also the kids are old enough to know that if they are lying about where they live, they are doing something wrong.

Where are these facebook comments located?

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Anonymous wrote:From the article linked above:

The Virginia High School League notified Hayfield officials last week that it recommended the two-season playoff suspension. On Saturday, Hayfield assistant coach Jeffrey Overton responded to the VHSL decision and posted a response on the X social media platform: “The Devil Is a Liar ‼️ No Weapon Formed against Us Shall Prosper 🙏 We’ve done everything asked the right way , [sic] this is a sick person’s personal attack.”

Wow.

You can find youtube videos with some of the Freedom to Hayfield parents and they all are trying to make this about the mom, Dorsey, who spoke up and her son who they have insulted all kind of sideway ways. If you read comments elsewhere you'll read about how awful the Freedom transfers treated the kids who were already there. It's sick and sexist the way they try to make it about a Karen type mom. They constantly go back to this to deflect from what they did that was wrong. I think some of them were the parents who let the kids use their address. They know they've cheated.

They ignore the fact that multiple people from multiple schools spoke up as well as other parents at Hayfield who are disgusted by this and that teachers and administrators at Hayfield spoke up too.

Thats funny because the Hayfield dad on twitter who helped hire the coach and who has been desperately defending him while accidentally admitting to scores of recruiting violations keeps blaming "Greg" and saying he was the only complainer.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked he wasn't fired immediately. The VHSL says your coach cheated so badly that one of your teams can't be in the playoffs for TWO YEARS and you don't fire him immediately?

They didn’t say anything about the coach cheating.

Oh honey. The infraction was "proselytizing". That means THE COACH RECRUITED players. That's against the rules. Its cheating. The coach cheated. How can you not follow this logic?

No it doesn’t.

“No it doesn’t” what? Mean he recruited? If not him directly, then someone, because what else do you think that rule means? And as head coach, the buck stops with him as far as his players are concerned. No way did that number of kids and their families up and move (assuming there is in fact no merit to the ineligibility claims) to follow him on a whim, and he never asked questions or knew anything about it but just pushed out some 15 former Hayfield players to make room.

Doesn’t mean the coach did anything. And they didn’t even say what brought them to that conclusion.

Do you have CTE? Traumatic brain injury from playing too much football?

VHSL found the coach violated their recruiting rules.

The VHSL never said the coach recruited anyone. You really should stop slandering the coach.

Who do you think did the recruiting? If not...the coach?

That’s a question for the VHSL. They made the allegation, but didn’t say who. That’s why the decision sounds bogus.

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Anonymous wrote:To follow up to some previous posts. After some conversations with people in the know (ie other football parents), FCPS feels really bad for the Hayfield kids. It’s an unfortunate situation all around. FCPS worked really hard with the VHSL over player eligibility, so everyone thought things were hunky-dory, until just a few weeks ago. It really caught everyone off guard.

What good, kind people they are. Nah.

Funny FCPS doesn't feel bad for the bullied kid or the mom who spoke up who has been hounded. They certainly don't feel bad at all for the original kids who got kicked off or chased off the team. FCPS clearly doesn't feel bad for the school staff who spoke up and had to be reassigned. They clearly don't care about the kids from the other schools who had to put up with this unfair situation. They clearly don't feel bad for the kids left at Freedom with no team. I can keep going.

Go read the FB comments by the Hayfield parents with kids on the team. Also the kids are old enough to know that if they are lying about where they live, they are doing something wrong.

Where are these facebook comments located?

Not going to link to parents Facebook posts but they are easily findable from the coaches Facebook pages and look at who they repost. one parent in particular is very vocal that her kids civil rights have been violated.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked he wasn't fired immediately. The VHSL says your coach cheated so badly that one of your teams can't be in the playoffs for TWO YEARS and you don't fire him immediately?

They didn’t say anything about the coach cheating.

Oh honey. The infraction was "proselytizing". That means THE COACH RECRUITED players. That's against the rules. Its cheating. The coach cheated. How can you not follow this logic?

No it doesn’t.

“No it doesn’t” what? Mean he recruited? If not him directly, then someone, because what else do you think that rule means? And as head coach, the buck stops with him as far as his players are concerned. No way did that number of kids and their families up and move (assuming there is in fact no merit to the ineligibility claims) to follow him on a whim, and he never asked questions or knew anything about it but just pushed out some 15 former Hayfield players to make room.

Doesn’t mean the coach did anything. And they didn’t even say what brought them to that conclusion.

Do you have CTE? Traumatic brain injury from playing too much football?

VHSL found the coach violated their recruiting rules.

The VHSL never said the coach recruited anyone. You really should stop slandering the coach.

Who do you think did the recruiting? If not...the coach?

That’s a question for the VHSL. They made the allegation, but didn’t say who. That’s why the decision sounds bogus.

Either you have a sub-80 IQ or are trolling.