Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school

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Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!

Investigators have confirmed that there is security video showing that the door was closed after the teacher returned to the building.

If it was a self locking door then how did the shooter get in?

Are we really doing this again Ted Cruz?

It malfunctioned.

The answer *is not* whether or not doors function properly. The answer *IS NOT* fortifying schools. Those answers basically give in to the mentally deranged criminals and take away our safety and wellbeing.

The RIGHT answer is to make sure that criminals and nutjobs are not allowed to obtain guns.

So the lock on the outer door did not work. The locks on the classroom doors can only be locked from outside the classrooms. Fortifying a position is used to slow and funnel people to areas. If people who are guarding fail to show up or take action all the fortifications are useless. This is what happen here. Just like it happen to the French in WW2. Police failed and conservatives failed.

The Texas law enforcement report already said that the Uvalde shooter would've been easily able to shoot out the window next to the door and open the door from the outside, if the door had not malfunctioned. He had already fired at the building multiple times. He was single-mindedly determined to get inside.

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Every door at my child’s elementary school either has a window next to it, or a window in the door.. Exterior doors, classroom doors, cafeteria, gym, they’re all the same. Locks aren't going to stop someone with an AR-15 and a determination to get inside.
It’s the guns.

+1 But the unlocked classroom door kept 19 law enforcement officers from going in and doing their jobs.

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How can dead kids be calling 911 from inside the classroom?

The kids who’ve been interviewed were survivors in the first classroom! Pay attention.

You pay attention. There were kids in the classroom calling 911 asking for help who later died.

I wasn’t disputing that. In fact one of the remaining girls that was still alive responded to an officer who asked something from outside. She called out,I’m here, in here! Gunman shot her. The surviving kids from that room confirmed it. Another girl who survived also confirmed that they called 911 numerous times.

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Anonymous wrote:This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it.

When you realize that you personally might actually die.

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service. And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses. We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well. We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed.

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About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids. Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes.

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino.

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Lord, please come back and burn it all down before the Chinese make a run at us. Why they haven't already struck us is a mystery to me. They have very little to fear.

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Anonymous wrote:This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it.

When you realize that you personally might actually die.

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service. And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses. We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well. We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed.

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About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids. Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes.

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino.

Your response is disingenuous and more like conservatives propaganda full of lies and fake news. 91 law enforcement officers were at the site and did nothing. They were ordered to stand down and wait which is against all SOPs. The small rural SW Texas town had its own swat team and school police force in addition to regular police. They had all the resources, training and personnel need to handle one shooter. We all know what Texas conservatives think of poc and immigrants. The police’s inaction was followed up by a cover up that starts at the highest level of Texas government and is still on going.

This would have been handle differently if the school was Sidwel or similar. You know that but for some reason you wish to spread your lies and disinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it.

When you realize that you personally might actually die.

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service. And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses. We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well. We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed.

+1

About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids. Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes.

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino.

Your response is disingenuous and more like conservatives propaganda full of lies and fake news. 91 law enforcement officers were at the site and did nothing. They were ordered to stand down and wait which is against all SOPs. The small rural SW Texas town had its own swat team and school police force in addition to regular police. They had all the resources, training and personnel need to handle one shooter. We all know what Texas conservatives think of poc and immigrants. The police’s inaction was followed up by a cover up that starts at the highest level of Texas government and is still on going.

This would have been handle differently if the school was Sidwel or similar. You know that but for some reason you wish to spread your lies and disinformation.

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s, may I take your order?

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Anonymous wrote:This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it.

When you realize that you personally might actually die.

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service. And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses. We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well. We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed.

+1

About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids. Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes.

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino.

Your response is disingenuous and more like conservatives propaganda full of lies and fake news. 91 law enforcement officers were at the site and did nothing. They were ordered to stand down and wait which is against all SOPs. The small rural SW Texas town had its own swat team and school police force in addition to regular police. They had all the resources, training and personnel need to handle one shooter. We all know what Texas conservatives think of poc and immigrants. The police’s inaction was followed up by a cover up that starts at the highest level of Texas government and is still on going.

This would have been handle differently if the school was Sidwel or similar. You know that but for some reason you wish to spread your lies and disinformation.

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s, may I take your order?

What the f are you saying? Are you trying to be funny? Here an update for you over 400 law enforcement officers were at the school and did nothing. Every day there is more and more coming out and all you do is spin. I bet you were one of those Sandy Hook deniers. What the f is wrong with you conservatives?You are f in the head.

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I got several breaking news indications on my phone about a report just released by a Texas House committee that concludes there were "systemic failures" in Uvalde. Here's the first 3 paragraphs from a NYT article regarding the report--I'm sure there are others.


Report on Uvalde Shooting Finds ‘Systemic Failures’ in Police Response


HOUSTON — The first comprehensive assessment of the law enforcement response to the deadly school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, found that officers from local, state and federal agencies collectively failed to take swift action, a broad indictment of police action at Robb Elementary School.

The 77-page report, released Sunday by a special Texas House committee, spread responsibility for “systemic failures” broadly among the scores of officers who responded and those who waited outside a pair of connected classrooms where the gunman killed 19 children and two teachers.

The decision to finally confront the gunman was made by a small group of officers, including specially trained Border Patrol agents and a deputy sheriff from a neighboring county, the report found, concluding that the order could have been issued far earlier by other officers at the scene.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/17/us/uvalde-shooting-report.html

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Anonymous wrote:This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it.

When you realize that you personally might actually die.

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service. And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses. We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well. We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed.

+1

About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids. Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes.

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino.

Your response is disingenuous and more like conservatives propaganda full of lies and fake news. 91 law enforcement officers were at the site and did nothing. They were ordered to stand down and wait which is against all SOPs. The small rural SW Texas town had its own swat team and school police force in addition to regular police. They had all the resources, training and personnel need to handle one shooter. We all know what Texas conservatives think of poc and immigrants. The police’s inaction was followed up by a cover up that starts at the highest level of Texas government and is still on going.

This would have been handle differently if the school was Sidwel or similar. You know that but for some reason you wish to spread your lies and disinformation.

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s, may I take your order?

What the f are you saying? Are you trying to be funny? Here an update for you over 400 law enforcement officers were at the school and did nothing. Every day there is more and more coming out and all you do is spin. I bet you were one of those Sandy Hook deniers. What the f is wrong with you conservatives?You are f in the head.

DP. That’s an older joke. It’s used when people go on rants, especially for unwanted or unrelated topics. I’m rather progressive and I rolled my eyes at that comment too, so get over yourself.

Also, the new report said 376 members of law enforcement. It’s still a lot, so it’s really not necessary to exaggerate to make your case look better. It diminishes your other points when you do that. If you want a dramatic talking point, you could say there were more officers there than there were defending the Alamo. But please do stop accusing other people of spin if you can’t even get your own facts straight.

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Spoiler alert: Santa Anna’s forces killed the Texians at the Alamo.

Ironically it was illegal immigrants from the US settling in Mexican territory who precipitated the war.

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Report Findings being aired now live on CBS.

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Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!

Investigators have confirmed that there is security video showing that the door was closed after the teacher returned to the building.

If it was a self locking door then how did the shooter get in?

Are we really doing this again Ted Cruz?

It malfunctioned.

The answer *is not* whether or not doors function properly. The answer *IS NOT* fortifying schools. Those answers basically give in to the mentally deranged criminals and take away our safety and wellbeing.

The RIGHT answer is to make sure that criminals and nutjobs are not allowed to obtain guns.

So the lock on the outer door did not work. The locks on the classroom doors can only be locked from outside the classrooms. Fortifying a position is used to slow and funnel people to areas. If people who are guarding fail to show up or take action all the fortifications are useless. This is what happen here. Just like it happen to the French in WW2. Police failed and conservatives failed.

The Texas law enforcement report already said that the Uvalde shooter would've been easily able to shoot out the window next to the door and open the door from the outside, if the door had not malfunctioned. He had already fired at the building multiple times. He was single-mindedly determined to get inside.

This.
Every door at my child’s elementary school either has a window next to it, or a window in the door.. Exterior doors, classroom doors, cafeteria, gym, they’re all the same. Locks aren't going to stop someone with an AR-15 and a determination to get inside.
It’s the guns.

+1 But the unlocked classroom door kept 19 law enforcement officers from going in and doing their jobs.

Agree with the PPP.

The question of locked doors is entirely the wrong one to even be having. By shifting the conversation to fortifying schools we've already conceded defeat to the AR-15 wielding wackos, we are already down to defining which of the handful of places in our childrens lives we are going to bother fortifying and defending -

- rather than trying to make sure that lunatics can't so easily get those AR-15s in the first place, making the WHOLE COUNTRY a safer place for our kids.

I refuse to make that concession. It's the guns.

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Anonymous wrote:This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it.

When you realize that you personally might actually die.

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service. And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses. We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well. We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed.

+1

About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids. Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes.

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino.

Your response is disingenuous and more like conservatives propaganda full of lies and fake news. 91 law enforcement officers were at the site and did nothing. They were ordered to stand down and wait which is against all SOPs. The small rural SW Texas town had its own swat team and school police force in addition to regular police. They had all the resources, training and personnel need to handle one shooter. We all know what Texas conservatives think of poc and immigrants. The police’s inaction was followed up by a cover up that starts at the highest level of Texas government and is still on going.

This would have been handle differently if the school was Sidwel or similar. You know that but for some reason you wish to spread your lies and disinformation.

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s, may I take your order?

What the f are you saying? Are you trying to be funny? Here an update for you over 400 law enforcement officers were at the school and did nothing. Every day there is more and more coming out and all you do is spin. I bet you were one of those Sandy Hook deniers. What the f is wrong with you conservatives?You are f in the head.

DP. That’s an older joke. It’s used when people go on rants, especially for unwanted or unrelated topics. I’m rather progressive and I rolled my eyes at that comment too, so get over yourself.

Also, the new report said 376 members of law enforcement. It’s still a lot, so it’s really not necessary to exaggerate to make your case look better. It diminishes your other points when you do that. If you want a dramatic talking point, you could say there were more officers there than there were defending the Alamo. But please do stop accusing other people of spin if you can’t even get your own facts straight.

Nearly 400.

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Anonymous wrote:This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it.

When you realize that you personally might actually die.

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service. And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses. We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well. We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed.

+1

About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids. Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes.

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino.

Your response is disingenuous and more like conservatives propaganda full of lies and fake news. 91 law enforcement officers were at the site and did nothing. They were ordered to stand down and wait which is against all SOPs. The small rural SW Texas town had its own swat team and school police force in addition to regular police. They had all the resources, training and personnel need to handle one shooter. We all know what Texas conservatives think of poc and immigrants. The police’s inaction was followed up by a cover up that starts at the highest level of Texas government and is still on going.

This would have been handle differently if the school was Sidwel or similar. You know that but for some reason you wish to spread your lies and disinformation.

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s, may I take your order?

What the f are you saying? Are you trying to be funny? Here an update for you over 400 law enforcement officers were at the school and did nothing. Every day there is more and more coming out and all you do is spin. I bet you were one of those Sandy Hook deniers. What the f is wrong with you conservatives?You are f in the head.

DP. That’s an older joke. It’s used when people go on rants, especially for unwanted or unrelated topics. I’m rather progressive and I rolled my eyes at that comment too, so get over yourself.

Also, the new report said 376 members of law enforcement. It’s still a lot, so it’s really not necessary to exaggerate to make your case look better. It diminishes your other points when you do that. If you want a dramatic talking point, you could say there were more officers there than there were defending the Alamo. But please do stop accusing other people of spin if you can’t even get your own facts straight.

DP Please you conservatives are a joke. Your every day the number of police, what they did and did not do, what type of equipment and who the Texas political establishment throws out as scapegoat changes. Yet you stand by and support the conservatives clown show that is Texas.

So keep spinning! I sure you are doing god’s work owning the libs!

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Anonymous wrote:In the video when the killer comes in the door you watch it close and you hear it lock/. Sorry I don’t buy the narrative that it wasn’t propped open. That teacher certainly holds blame for this tragedy!

Investigators have confirmed that there is security video showing that the door was closed after the teacher returned to the building.

If it was a self locking door then how did the shooter get in?

Are we really doing this again Ted Cruz?

It malfunctioned.

The answer *is not* whether or not doors function properly. The answer *IS NOT* fortifying schools. Those answers basically give in to the mentally deranged criminals and take away our safety and wellbeing.

The RIGHT answer is to make sure that criminals and nutjobs are not allowed to obtain guns.

So the lock on the outer door did not work. The locks on the classroom doors can only be locked from outside the classrooms. Fortifying a position is used to slow and funnel people to areas. If people who are guarding fail to show up or take action all the fortifications are useless. This is what happen here. Just like it happen to the French in WW2. Police failed and conservatives failed.

The Texas law enforcement report already said that the Uvalde shooter would've been easily able to shoot out the window next to the door and open the door from the outside, if the door had not malfunctioned. He had already fired at the building multiple times. He was single-mindedly determined to get inside.

This.
Every door at my child’s elementary school either has a window next to it, or a window in the door.. Exterior doors, classroom doors, cafeteria, gym, they’re all the same. Locks aren't going to stop someone with an AR-15 and a determination to get inside.
It’s the guns.

+1 But the unlocked classroom door kept 19 law enforcement officers from going in and doing their jobs.

Agree with the PPP.

The question of locked doors is entirely the wrong one to even be having. By shifting the conversation to fortifying schools we've already conceded defeat to the AR-15 wielding wackos, we are already down to defining which of the handful of places in our childrens lives we are going to bother fortifying and defending -

- rather than trying to make sure that lunatics can't so easily get those AR-15s in the first place, making the WHOLE COUNTRY a safer place for our kids.

I refuse to make that concession. It's the guns.

You’re years late to what passes for the policy discussion. America began fortifying classrooms in earnest in the wake of Sandy Hook. (We already had active shooter drills) There was an opportunity to pass meaningful gun control legislation at the time, including reviving the assault weapons ban, but our Congress was bought and paid for and the Murdochs were busy telling the god-and-guns fanatics that Obama’s black helicopters were coming for their shotguns.