US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous
Biden finally said it, this is Putin’s first step in recreating the USSR, WW III unless Putin stops. Leaks hope the sanctions work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:President Joe Biden has been presented with a menu of options for the U.S. to carry out massive cyberattacks designed to disrupt Russia’s ability to sustain its military operations in Ukraine, four people familiar with the deliberations tell NBC News.

Two U.S. intelligence officials, one Western intelligence official and another person briefed on the matter say no final decisions have been made, but they say U.S. intelligence and military cyber warriors are proposing the use of American cyberweapons on a scale never before contemplated. Among the options: disrupting internet connectivity across Russia, shutting off electric power, and tampering with railroad switches to hamper Russia’s ability to resupply its forces, three of the sources said.

“You could do everything from slow the trains down to have them fall off the tracks,” one person briefed on the matter said.



the bolded was retracted. They were talking about which assets were priority protects in the US. Can we please try to be accurate in the posts or ask Jeff to delete ones that are no longer valid?
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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully Biden was able to convince other G7 members to ban Russia from the SWIFT payment system. Sounded like some did not want to go that far. This will be a good tell of how strong Biden is.


If they don’t, Russia will be knocking on their door.


SWIFT will come in time, but the announced actions will have a similar impact.
Anonymous
Why is FOX news on Russia's side? Why are they interviewing a crazy person (Trump) on air during an actual crisis?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow! So "let's wait for a month or so" is the strategy.

OK. Well, President Biden is our man. I stand by him.


And if Trump were president, we would be out of NATO and supporting the russians in this aar. What is your point?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sanctions sound like a slap on the wrist. Claims they are holding back another sanctions in case of further escalation.


How to tell someone you don't understand the sanctions.
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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully Biden was able to convince other G7 members to ban Russia from the SWIFT payment system. Sounded like some did not want to go that far. This will be a good tell of how strong Biden is.


If they don’t, Russia will be knocking on their door.


SWIFT will come in time, but the announced actions will have a similar impact.


What about cutting worldwide diplomatic relations ,cancelling all fligths, shipping, traveling a visas etc with Russia till the leaves Ukraine?
Anonymous
More details on the sanctions.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:President Joe Biden has been presented with a menu of options for the U.S. to carry out massive cyberattacks designed to disrupt Russia’s ability to sustain its military operations in Ukraine, four people familiar with the deliberations tell NBC News.

Two U.S. intelligence officials, one Western intelligence official and another person briefed on the matter say no final decisions have been made, but they say U.S. intelligence and military cyber warriors are proposing the use of American cyberweapons on a scale never before contemplated. Among the options: disrupting internet connectivity across Russia, shutting off electric power, and tampering with railroad switches to hamper Russia’s ability to resupply its forces, three of the sources said.

“You could do everything from slow the trains down to have them fall off the tracks,” one person briefed on the matter said.



the bolded was retracted. They were talking about which assets were priority protects in the US. Can we please try to be accurate in the posts or ask Jeff to delete ones that are no longer valid?


You may want to reach out to NBC and also ask them to be accurate.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-presented-options-massive-cyberattacks-russia-rcna17558?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
Anonymous
INSTITUTE OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCE SAYS U.S. SANCTIONS WILL FORCE RUSSIA'S CENTRAL BANK TO HIKE RATES, COULD CAUSE RUN ON BANKS
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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully Biden was able to convince other G7 members to ban Russia from the SWIFT payment system. Sounded like some did not want to go that far. This will be a good tell of how strong Biden is.


If they don’t, Russia will be knocking on their door.


SWIFT will come in time, but the announced actions will have a similar impact.


What about cutting worldwide diplomatic relations ,cancelling all fligths, shipping, traveling a visas etc with Russia till the leaves Ukraine?


Peace in our time.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow! So "let's wait for a month or so" is the strategy.

OK. Well, President Biden is our man. I stand by him.


Imagine being in the Ukraine and hearing that.


Imagine being in Ukraine and hearing that Putin is a genius and what he's doing is smart. Imagine being in Ukraine and your children got killed by a Russian bomb, and hearing that Putin is a genius amd what he did is smart. Imagine being in Ukraine, and your children got killed by a Russian bomb, and someone in the U.S. is using that to score political points against Democrats.


Imagine bing in Mexico and hearing perhaps the future US president wants to do the same to Mexico!


I think the point was: imagine being in the Ukraine and hearing that NATO countries will wait a month or so to see if "things work out" and then maybe reconsider stricter sanctions. Not sure what was confusing about that.


What’s so confusing that Trump thinks that Putin is a genius and we should do the same to our southern border, which is Mexico.


Mexico is a failed state. You will see American AirPower unleashed over Mexico within this century.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! So "let's wait for a month or so" is the strategy.

OK. Well, President Biden is our man. I stand by him.


Imagine being in the Ukraine and hearing that.


Imagine being in Ukraine and hearing that Putin is a genius and what he's doing is smart. Imagine being in Ukraine and your children got killed by a Russian bomb, and hearing that Putin is a genius amd what he did is smart. Imagine being in Ukraine, and your children got killed by a Russian bomb, and someone in the U.S. is using that to score political points against Democrats.


Imagine bing in Mexico and hearing perhaps the future US president wants to do the same to Mexico!


I think the point was: imagine being in the Ukraine and hearing that NATO countries will wait a month or so to see if "things work out" and then maybe reconsider stricter sanctions. Not sure what was confusing about that.


What’s so confusing that Trump thinks that Putin is a genius and we should do the same to our southern border, which is Mexico.


Mexico is a failed state. You will see American AirPower unleashed over Mexico within this century.



Quite a bold prediction.
Anonymous
People in the United States need to set aside their domestic politics and get behind Biden. This is not a political issue. This is about defending and protecting global democracy.

Putin is betting that the poisonous political polarization unleased by Trump is going to undermine the American-led response. If that happens then our world order will destabilize. These next couple of weeks are exceedingly pivotal.

There are enough adults left in the GOP who get this, especially in the Senate. They need to stand up and shut down the moronic Trump acolytes in the House.
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