Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:I will take coronavirus over Ebola anyday. Are you kidding?

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Ebola is almost always fatal unless you can get immediate advanced medical attention. What a foolish comparison.

I would 1 billion percent choose coronavirus over ebola and anyone who thinks the comparison is reasonable needs to step away from the internet. The coronavirus family includes the common cold. I would take, heck, MERS over ebola.
BTW, for some comparison purposes, there's an active ebola outbreak in Africa right now, stats here:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/ebola/drc-2019

2240 dead Africans and it doesn't even make the news.

That's disingenuous. There have been multiple articles in October, November, December and January about the current Ebola outbreak.

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Anonymous wrote:And I think I sought on the news that Germany has reported their first case

Germany actually has four. All were infected by a work colleague who had traveled to Germany from China. She apparently did not show symptoms until after she left Germany. This particular incident has some worried--the fact that she infected four colleagues during a short time frame and that she apparently did so while symptomless.

Yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has now surpassed the APS No Move thread in the DCUM hottest list. Just needs to beat out Meghan and Harry to be the top of the list.

Go virus, go!

It's probably the same crazies as the royal family thread. They are always looking for a boogeyman. Meghan! Coronavirus! What's next?

Sasquatch!

Oh no!! The Sasquatch is going to eat your picnic!!! Panic!!

Oh nooooo!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will take coronavirus over Ebola anyday. Are you kidding?

+1
Ebola is almost always fatal unless you can get immediate advanced medical attention. What a foolish comparison.

I would 1 billion percent choose coronavirus over ebola and anyone who thinks the comparison is reasonable needs to step away from the internet. The coronavirus family includes the common cold. I would take, heck, MERS over ebola.
BTW, for some comparison purposes, there's an active ebola outbreak in Africa right now, stats here:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/ebola/drc-2019

2240 dead Africans and it doesn't even make the news.

Where is CNN?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will take coronavirus over Ebola anyday. Are you kidding?

+1
Ebola is almost always fatal unless you can get immediate advanced medical attention. What a foolish comparison.

I would 1 billion percent choose coronavirus over ebola and anyone who thinks the comparison is reasonable needs to step away from the internet. The coronavirus family includes the common cold. I would take, heck, MERS over ebola.
BTW, for some comparison purposes, there's an active ebola outbreak in Africa right now, stats here:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/ebola/drc-2019

2240 dead Africans and it doesn't even make the news.

Then this is a reading for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

Ebola transmits in a different way, at different speed. If you read the above you see
how many people were in contact with the few US cases and they never got the disease.
The guy who had it came to US on the commercial flight, changed the plain,
lived with a family, went the hospital, they missed his markers and he lied,
came back home, then back to the hospital. Nobody out of all those people
he was in contact got sick.
One could wonder if the same case scenario would apply to the known
sick and symptomatic person with Corona.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has now surpassed the APS No Move thread in the DCUM hottest list. Just needs to beat out Meghan and Harry to be the top of the list.

Go virus, go!

It's probably the same crazies as the royal family thread. They are always looking for a boogeyman. Meghan! Coronavirus! What's next?

So how about we just discuss what we know as we do in a non panic orderly non freaking out just a need for information
and exchange opinions and data fashion and you go and watch some movies and don't worry about us,
NOBODY is panicking, there is NO reason to. If talking about something and getting information was to panic
then CDC would never post any data about the virus, the info, the preparation etc.
Simple act of sharing information has NOTHING to do with panic nor craziness.

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Yes, Ebola is deadly but doesn’t spread nearly as easy as Corona virus.


Remember that family that hosted a man from Africa in the states and he was hospitalized with Ebola?

They lived in the same apartment while he was sweating and having fever and took care of him until he was diagnosed. And none if them caught it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think I sought on the news that Germany has reported their first case

Germany actually has four. All were infected by a work colleague who had traveled to Germany from China. She apparently did not show symptoms until after she left Germany. This particular incident has some worried--the fact that she infected four colleagues during a short time frame and that she apparently did so while symptomless.

Yikes!

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Corona Beer must hate the name of this virus LOL

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WHO emergency committee to meet Thursday on coronavirus

https://www.upi.com/amp/Health_News/2020/01/29/WHO-emergency-committee-to-meet-Thursday-on-coronavirus/8771580322438/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has now surpassed the APS No Move thread in the DCUM hottest list. Just needs to beat out Meghan and Harry to be the top of the list.

Go virus, go!

It's probably the same crazies as the royal family thread. They are always looking for a boogeyman. Meghan! Coronavirus! What's next?

So how about we just discuss what we know as we do in a non panic orderly non freaking out just a need for information
and exchange opinions and data fashion and you go and watch some movies and don't worry about us,
NOBODY is panicking, there is NO reason to. If talking about something and getting information was to panic
then CDC would never post any data about the virus, the info, the preparation etc.
Simple act of sharing information has NOTHING to do with panic nor craziness.

93 pages = panic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, Ebola is deadly but doesn’t spread nearly as easy as Corona virus.


Remember that family that hosted a man from Africa in the states and he was hospitalized with Ebola?

They lived in the same apartment while he was sweating and having fever and took care of him until he was diagnosed. And none if them caught it.

Ok, are you people serious? You would prefer there to be an ebola outbreak in the US, as opposed to this coronavirus? Even if, say, 100,000 people have it in Wuhan (far, FAR more than anyone is estimating credibly), a city of 11 million, that's less than 1%. Currently, if 6K people have been diagnosed, that's 0.05% of the population of Wuhan and 0.01% the population of Hubei province. So, yeah, coronavirus is more contagious than ebola, but so is the common cold, and the coronavirus seems to make most people about as sick.

(And, btw, the guy who died of it in the US did transmit it to two people, both of whom were nurses who treated him in the hospital)

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Anonymous wrote:Has there been any update to the whether the possible case in NoVa has gotten it's results back yet? The Va health dep't site won't update again until tomorrow.

it's been several days so I imagine the testing must be complete by now.

Hard to believe there has been no new cases in US since Sunday. Lot of pending results. Why are they still pending?

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I’m not in panic personally but I like to be prepared in advance. So I’m following the news.

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Anonymous wrote:My niece was here this past weekend. She’s a pharmacist and has studied in China. She had strep, and had to go to the hospital for testing (note not a local doctor, school doc, etc). She said the hospital had blood on the floor and dirty, tattered blankets given from person to person. NOT the same standards as here in the US or Europe. She ended up getting a yeast infection from the antibiotic, had to go BACK to the hospital to get treated. Here, we’d go by OTC yeast cream at CVS or similar. She said the process was so complicated to simply get treated for a yeast infection she nearly stole the cream from the pharmacy at the hospital. She just wanted to get OUT of that filthy place. And this was in a large city, not a rural town.

Now ask yourself why there’s such pandemonium, death, and spread in China. You will NOT see the same problems here. I think, too, people are forgetting that the flu pandemic happened in 1918 when the medical care, etc was not nearly as advanced as it is here.

Look how studied this already is in our Western countries. It’s nothing short of remarkable how fast our country has mobilized to attack this.

THIS. A lot of people acting like chicken little here simply cannot comprehend what it's like for medical care in the eastern world, even in the big cities or the "nicer" hospitals. The whole -- OMG it's going to be soooo bad in America when it happens that maybe it's better to get it now when there's only a few cases (WTF?? that theory circulated here yesterday) -- seems to ignore the fact that in the US NO hospital -- not even a small town one passes around sheets and blankets from person to person unless they've first been laundered at x degrees for y timeframe -- all of which are required guidelines. To say nothing about healthcare professionals changing gloves and masks like every 2 seconds when they go patient to patient; in the scenes we're seeing in China the drs. are in biohazard suits yet I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are just wearing those suits for their own protection but then going person to person with the same gloves etc. on -- thus infecting someone with a lesser virus with this one. It's also why I don't get why people there are standing shoulder to shoulder in hospitals "to get checked." Don't they risk catching it between just the crowds and also the lack of infection control by whoever is seeing them? But I think a lot of it is cultural -- there are definitely eastern cultures where the DOCTOR'S definitive word is what matters . . . if he says they're ok, then they must be ok to say nothing of the fact that they just spent hours in large crowds and the guy who ok-ed them may or may not have been wearing those gloves all morning.

While I appreciate the sentiment, I also feel like maybe you've never been to the Children's ER in the middle of the night during flu season ... I was there in December for a croup attack with my child and it was elbow to elbow with sick kids and disorganized/understaffed. Was later told this was due to two trauma patients being flown in, but if that's all it takes to tap out of capacity, then it's in fact hard to see how the system would work all that well in a pandemic here.

Most small regional hospitals would be quickly overwhelmed by as little as 10 highly infectious critically ill patients. Larger, non-major trauma center hospitals by 50 such patients. Some hospitals would need to discharge some recovering patients quicker.

Still better than the developing world. I worked on a cholera outbreak in a small Andean hospital (50 beds). People were on blankets in the hallways by day 2. By day 3, people were outside the hospital. Ran out of basic supplies for rehydration soon after. People without well family members to tend to them died the fastest.

Small Andean Hospital vs small US hospital

The hospital was comparable in size and service area to the one in the Netflix series that had one doctor (Oklahoma?). Ours had two (a father and son). I think you overestimate what hospital staffing is like outside of cities and their close in suburbs. Many rural areas no longer have a hospital at all. If you think Sibley is a small hospital, you are in for a shock.