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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

Coaches don't just let you play up because you ask nicely

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Don't forget when the rest of the team is in 8th grade if you're playing down a grade your kid will be in 9th grade and playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season. If I was a club coach I'd pass on a player like this since they're not going to be with the team for 1/3 (if you count breaks) of the season.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Don't forget when the rest of the team is in 8th grade if you're playing down a grade your kid will be in 9th grade and playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season. If I was a club coach I'd pass on a player like this since they're not going to be with the team for 1/3 (if you count breaks) of the season.

Not everyone plays HS and I bet if a player were on a top team, they'd keep playing club, with the higher exposure, quality. Just because you're eligible for HS, doesn't mean you'll play. Happened all the time in BY, especially with kids who went to school early.

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I feel like there's 5 points that get rolled out every time this issues comes up. It's a legit issue for current players, but not necessarily over college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends for years. So ironic, given the push to play with grade, so you can play with friends.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Don't forget when the rest of the team is in 8th grade if you're playing down a grade your kid will be in 9th grade and playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season. If I was a club coach I'd pass on a player like this since they're not going to be with the team for 1/3 (if you count breaks) of the season.

Name me the colleges who recruit from HS soccer

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Don't forget when the rest of the team is in 8th grade if you're playing down a grade your kid will be in 9th grade and playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season. If I was a club coach I'd pass on a player like this since they're not going to be with the team for 1/3 (if you count breaks) of the season.

Name me the colleges who recruit from HS soccer

I see the opposite. HS coaches who go to smaller showcases to try to see club players who they then try to convince to play HS.

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So, now it starts to get real.

Our club is off of training now until beginning of January but did send out communication that the teams will train the first two weeks of January with their new "age group" teams.

Said this will also be an evaluation period for RL players as well as "non-club" members. Hmmm...

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Anonymous wrote:So, now it starts to get real.

Our club is off of training now until beginning of January but did send out communication that the teams will train the first two weeks of January with their new "age group" teams.

Said this will also be an evaluation period for RL players as well as "non-club" members. Hmmm...

Many in our area are holding some ID sessions for the new age groups. Clubs stressing show up for the age, regardless of any other factors, like grade, while promising individual decisions will be made later, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

At my club, the issue is not so much about recruiting than about not understanding the impact of the change. It's the ... hey wait a minute, my kid was born in September but just happens to be in the higher grade. We've played this age group and are about to graduate. Why would we want to play in the younger group with kids they've never really played with before? This makes no sense. That's not school year. In short, basically how we've switched one set of problems (trapped players) to now an ongoing issue of kids being too young to play on grade.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Don't forget when the rest of the team is in 8th grade if you're playing down a grade your kid will be in 9th grade and playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season. If I was a club coach I'd pass on a player like this since they're not going to be with the team for 1/3 (if you count breaks) of the season.

Name me the colleges who recruit from HS soccer

I see the opposite. HS coaches who go to smaller showcases to try to see club players who they then try to convince to play HS.

LOL

Are they from private boarding schools and offering free scholarships for tuition and boarding?

Leave your MLS Next club where you play all year to come play two months for my HS instead. Coached by the Geography teacher

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Don't forget when the rest of the team is in 8th grade if you're playing down a grade your kid will be in 9th grade and playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season. If I was a club coach I'd pass on a player like this since they're not going to be with the team for 1/3 (if you count breaks) of the season.

Name me the colleges who recruit from HS soccer

I see the opposite. HS coaches who go to smaller showcases to try to see club players who they then try to convince to play HS.

LOL

Are they from private boarding schools and offering free scholarships for tuition and boarding?

Leave your MLS Next club where you play all year to come play two months for my HS instead. Coached by the Geography teacher

No, they try to convince kids the upside to playing HS, where they have a ton of choices from multiple sports, not just soccer. Not that many play in college. HS is the last realistic stop for the large majority of youth club players.

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Any trapped players coming to SYC? Girls side

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Thanks the the posters actually providing feedback. My U13 ECNL kid (not DMV) apparently has a "mixed age group practice" tomorrow so I'll be curious to see what that means (assuming it's not cancelled).