Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

He's using every argument and tactic he can find to push his same grade agenda

It doesn't need to make sense to the rest of us, only him

Your head is so deep in the sand you can see China.

Ignore all you want but this was a real conversation from a real parent about a real Aug birthday g2016 player.

I was surprised when he said it. Which is why I asked questions and tried not to provide any advise.I wanted to see what he was thinking without any outside influence.

Is he in the padded room with you now?

You make yourself look stupid.

Its ok, once teams are finalized for next season and rosters (with graduation year) are posted you'll go away.

True, because I heard college coaches have no way of knowing now when kids they're interested in are going to graduate HS

Currently all teams as BY.

In BY trapped players are playing up a grade. Nobody is playing down a grade. This is why recruiters dont mind if BY players are playing the wrong grade.

Under SY Aug (and potentially younger) birthdays can play down a grade. This is fundamentally different than whats currently happening in BY.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

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College coaches, not the big ones, but college coaches recruit B team players all the time. They also attend local/regional showcases looking for talent.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

He's using every argument and tactic he can find to push his same grade agenda

It doesn't need to make sense to the rest of us, only him

Your head is so deep in the sand you can see China.

Ignore all you want but this was a real conversation from a real parent about a real Aug birthday g2016 player.

I was surprised when he said it. Which is why I asked questions and tried not to provide any advise.I wanted to see what he was thinking without any outside influence.

Is he in the padded room with you now?

You make yourself look stupid.

Its ok, once teams are finalized for next season and rosters (with graduation year) are posted you'll go away.

True, because I heard college coaches have no way of knowing now when kids they're interested in are going to graduate HS

Currently all teams as BY.

In BY trapped players are playing up a grade. Nobody is playing down a grade. This is why recruiters dont mind if BY players are playing the wrong grade.

Under SY Aug (and potentially younger) birthdays can play down a grade. This is fundamentally different than whats currently happening in BY.

There is no up or down a grade

Only on age or up

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Thank you providing. These are my feelings as well. The person you're argueing with is just adding comments to push this off the page.

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Anonymous wrote:College coaches, not the big ones, but college coaches recruit B team players all the time. They also attend local/regional showcases looking for talent.

Good players that fit individual college programs are everywhere

Only elitist dcum people think the group label matters over individual talent

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Thank you providing. These are my feelings as well. The person you're argueing with is just adding comments to push this off the page.

I know, appreciate the kind words. They're on DCUM all day long (probabaly in their mom's basement) posting against whenever they dont agree with.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Thank you providing. These are my feelings as well. The person you're argueing with is just adding comments to push this off the page.

I know, appreciate the kind words. They're on DCUM all day long (probabaly in their mom's basement) posting against whenever they dont agree with.

Answering yourself is always classic

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Thank you providing. These are my feelings as well. The person you're argueing with is just adding comments to push this off the page.

I know, appreciate the kind words. They're on DCUM all day long (probabaly in their mom's basement) posting against whenever they dont agree with.

Answering yourself is always classic

Isn't that your mom screaming down the stairs that your hot pockets are ready? You'd better go get em while their hot 🔥

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

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But not too hot, those things will scorch the inside of your mouth off!!

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.