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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

You botched your made up convo. July would be the youngest playing in their actual grade not playing with kids a grade younger. If July kid went to school early it's not on club soccer to fix because club soccer isn't grade based.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

You're the same August Guy just making up a story of a conversation that never happened 🤣🤣

Keep fighting it, but definitely happened. His kid is a defender and one of the bigger players on the team. I was surprised to find out that she was a younger August birthday.

What's younger August and what's regular August and what's older August?

Younger would be Aug 16-31 birthdays and Aug 1-15 would be older.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

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Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Don't forget when the rest of the team is in 8th grade if you're playing down a grade your kid will be in 9th grade and playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season. If I was a club coach I'd pass on a player like this since they're not going to be with the team for 1/3 (if you count breaks) of the season.

Name me the colleges who recruit from HS soccer

I see the opposite. HS coaches who go to smaller showcases to try to see club players who they then try to convince to play HS.

LOL

Are they from private boarding schools and offering free scholarships for tuition and boarding?

Leave your MLS Next club where you play all year to come play two months for my HS instead. Coached by the Geography teacher

No, they try to convince kids the upside to playing HS, where they have a ton of choices from multiple sports, not just soccer. Not that many play in college. HS is the last realistic stop for the large majority of youth club players.

How can HS be the last stop when club soccer goes to U19?

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

In summary, you finally met someone with an child with an August birthday but couldn't convince them that they should kick and scream to have their kid to play up because they are special, not based on skill but because they are special. And this person didn't buy it. That would check out

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

You're the same August Guy just making up a story of a conversation that never happened 🤣🤣

Keep fighting it, but definitely happened. His kid is a defender and one of the bigger players on the team. I was surprised to find out that she was a younger August birthday.

What's younger August and what's regular August and what's older August?

Younger would be Aug 16-31 birthdays and Aug 1-15 would be older.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You don't know what was in his head but decided that you could make it up to try to get it to fit your clueless narrative that everyone should be forced in grade year. Well done I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

He's using every argument and tactic he can find to push his same grade agenda

It doesn't need to make sense to the rest of us, only him

Funny that he said his July daughter is "screwed" by being the youngest in the age group but doesn't think the relative age effect is real. Turns out he has a different fake reality for each kid but making the Sept girl the oldest is is main goal which will change once she is out of club soccer in 3-4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You don't know what was in his head but decided that you could make it up to try to get it to fit your clueless narrative that everyone should be forced in grade year. Well done I guess.

DAG also cos-plays as a college coach/recruiter - letting us know how they will be approaching a situation that hasn't happened yet with laser like accuracy.

I wish I could quit this thread, but sometimes new information actually gets posted.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

He's using every argument and tactic he can find to push his same grade agenda

It doesn't need to make sense to the rest of us, only him

Your head is so deep in the sand you can see China.

Ignore all you want but this was a real conversation from a real parent about a real Aug birthday g2016 player.

I was surprised when he said it. Which is why I asked questions and tried not to provide any advise.I wanted to see what he was thinking without any outside influence.

You are struggling to keep this story straight. FYI, this is advice, "I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade." and based on your story he didn't say anything was wrong and needed to be fixed.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Thank you providing. These are my feelings as well. The person you're argueing with is just adding comments to push this off the page.

At least use spell checker when you parrot yourself. Not that spelling of base words often changes based on verb tense -ing.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

The rules aren't grade year. Move on.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

That's the thing, you're not a college coach. And college coaches aren't like you trying to stick it to August kids so their Sept kid could be the oldest. So you and college coaches are different like that.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

That's the thing, you're not a college coach. And college coaches aren't like you trying to stick it to August kids so their Sept kid could be the oldest. So you and college coaches are different like that.

If one person is thinking this way so are others.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

If you're playing club soccer according to the league age cutoff, how can it be playing down by choice? How are you working the system?

Make that make sense

When recruiters go to watch a game they want all players to be a specific graduation year. This is the primary benefit for recruiters when it comes to SY. Trudging down to some oddball field to watch an obbball player is not what recruiters want to do. Before you get your panties in a wad leagues schedule the most recruitable teams in the best times and fields during events. Everyone else gets what they get. Are you starting to catch the hint? Playing down a grade will be a constant fight of going against the grain. Just bite the bullet early and play on a correct grade team.

Doesn't make sense with internationals and transfers and current BY with multiple grades being what they are. Your inadvertently saying that college coaches won't work with kids from bad teams but they do that all the time. That is the main problem with your misunderstanding, college coaches know how to scout in unique circumstances. No bullet needs to be bitten and teams said for kids to play on age.

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Anonymous wrote:G2016 was speaking with another parent this weekend about the BY the SY change. He said its weird. I asked why he thinks its weird. He said my kid is an August birthday. I said wouldn't that make your kid the oldest on a SY team? My kid is a july birthday shes screwed. He said its weird that my daughter would be playing on a team with players that are a year behind her in school. I said if you think that it's weird just tell your club that you're not paying unless shes on a team with players her grade.

Interesting exchange you could tell he instinctively knew that playing down was an issue. But he couldnt figure out why. His oldest is being recruited for swimming right so Im sure he'll put the pieces together reguarding his youngest and playing on the correct grade team.

Then dont play with your SY if you are good enough to stay with older group. This is a dumb post.

Not a dumb post at all.

I think he was working through in his head why they're trying to make his daughter play on a team with players that are a grade below her. If you're not that involved in youth soccer and not looking to play down it doesnt make sense. Most people assume playing up is what the best players do not the other way around.

You play your birth month/year, skill level and physicality, not your grade

How is it playing down if the age group is 8/1/2014 to July 31, 2015 and you're born 8/10/2014?

Things change when you get to Olders.

Once recruiting is introduced into the mix you'll want your kid playing on a team thats their grade in school not on a team thats a grade lower. Clubs know this and if they're serious about long term development and getting players onto college teams they'll play Aug birthdays with their grade as young as possible.

Wouldn't Aug, Sep and October fall in the same grade category?

It all depends on when your school district starts. Some districts start earlier and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays will be a grade up. Some school districts start later and those Aug Sept Oct birthdays would be a grade down.

So you want the leagues and clubs to modify based on individual school districts?

Colleges recruit on talent

Graduation year let's them know your availability and where it fits in their Freshman recruitment plans.

What you dont understand is the top colleges have 100s of players to choose from for every position. Nobody is going out of their way to pick a player thats playing down a grade. Nobody is that good that they're standing out that way. If they were they'd be playing up on the team thats their grade.

Nah
Top Colleges have a handful of players they're considering for their small Freshman incoming class

The Freshman class is usually less than 10 players

You think they are picking from everyone eligible. They're picking from the few they want.
Most if not all of who contacted them directly

If I was a coach I'd inta-pass on players choosing to play down.

100% red flag that parents want to work the system and will likely be a pain in the ass.

Conversely if an Aug birthday asked to play on a team thats their grade Id allow + 100% respect that choice.

That's the thing, you're not a college coach. And college coaches aren't like you trying to stick it to August kids so their Sept kid could be the oldest. So you and college coaches are different like that.

If one person is thinking this way so are others.

Except when the one person has spent, what, almost a year trying to get someone to also want GY and hate August births and hasn't found them yet. Sounds like just one crazy.