Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The entire GOP house delegation except David Valadao (who voted to impeach Trump) spent the weekend at Mar-a-Lago with other GOP members of the federal government to work on promulgation of their tax and immigration agenda. While their home state burned.


https://meidasnews.com/news/california-republicans-flee-to-mar-a-lago-as-la-burns

Photos documenting each one are all over SM.

Would you have preferred they attended a coronation in Africa instead?

It’s ludicrous to criticize Bass for being where our president asked her to be before the fires, while giving a pass to CA Congress Critters who abandoned their state with the fires raging to go to Mar-a-Lago

They had to go kiss the ring.

[Anonymous]

This horrendous tragedy’s proportions only continue to grow. Latest word is that
Patrisse Cullors has lost not just one but TWO of the three mansions she owns in LA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.

To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.

Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

Yes, ultimately very selfish, but does prove this point: firefighters present and well-equipped meant no destruction.

Are there enough private firefighters available to protect areas under threat? If so why isn't CA paying for them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The entire GOP house delegation except David Valadao (who voted to impeach Trump) spent the weekend at Mar-a-Lago with other GOP members of the federal government to work on promulgation of their tax and immigration agenda. While their home state burned.


https://meidasnews.com/news/california-republicans-flee-to-mar-a-lago-as-la-burns

Photos documenting each one are all over SM.

Good. Immigration is a huge problem and glad they are getting a head start.

Too bad the LA government wasn’t proactive like this group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This horrendous tragedy’s proportions only continue to grow. Latest word is that
Patrisse Cullors has lost not just one but TWO of the three mansions she owns in LA.

She must be a very wealthy woman to own three mansions in California. Is she a celebrity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire GOP house delegation except David Valadao (who voted to impeach Trump) spent the weekend at Mar-a-Lago with other GOP members of the federal government to work on promulgation of their tax and immigration agenda. While their home state burned.


https://meidasnews.com/news/california-republicans-flee-to-mar-a-lago-as-la-burns

Photos documenting each one are all over SM.

Would you have preferred they attended a coronation in Africa instead?

It’s ludicrous to criticize Bass for being where our president asked her to be before the fires, while giving a pass to CA Congress Critters who abandoned their state with the fires raging to go to Mar-a-Lago

She could have cancelled. She could have backed out, saying it was too risky to leave her city at this potentially critical moment. Bass is getting substantial criticism in California right now from Democrats themselves. Major difference between a mayor of a city under possible threat and a congressman from a district far away. Surely you can figure this out.

[Anonymous]

I have several relatives who live in the area. It’s awful that they lost everything. They’re vocal Trump supporters so I do wonder how they will feel about being denied federal aid over politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire GOP house delegation except David Valadao (who voted to impeach Trump) spent the weekend at Mar-a-Lago with other GOP members of the federal government to work on promulgation of their tax and immigration agenda. While their home state burned.


https://meidasnews.com/news/california-republicans-flee-to-mar-a-lago-as-la-burns

Photos documenting each one are all over SM.

Would you have preferred they attended a coronation in Africa instead?

It’s ludicrous to criticize Bass for being where our president asked her to be before the fires, while giving a pass to CA Congress Critters who abandoned their state with the fires raging to go to Mar-a-Lago

They were working on policies that affect their own state and constituents. Bass was in Africa for reasons that have nothing to do with LA and certainly don’t affect the people who voted her in to look after their city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This horrendous tragedy’s proportions only continue to grow. Latest word is that
Patrisse Cullors has lost not just one but TWO of the three mansions she owns in LA.

She must be a very wealthy woman to own three mansions in California. Is she a celebrity?

Seems like she’s the BLM grifter who appropriated the millions in donations to buy herself some nice mansions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have several relatives who live in the area. It’s awful that they lost everything. They’re vocal Trump supporters so I do wonder how they will feel about being denied federal aid over politics.

I think they will understand. Things need to improve dramatically before taxpayers can fund anything. Wildfires are very destructive. There will be fires again. Soon. It would be like taxpayers being expected to rebuild homes destroyed in floods that will likely flood again in a decade or two. Intelligent people say no, no matter which side of the aisle they’re on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the fire, water, & forestry efforts were underfunded & mismanaged, then the various levels of government are culpable.

If they WEREN’T underfunded or mismanaged, then the various levels of government are inept at employing those adequate resources.

But Newsom & Bass want us to believe nobody did anything wrong & STILL these fires are out of control. Somebody needs to send them one of those “The buck stops here!” signs.

There is a cost for preparedness. They could have made changes that could have mitigated the spread of wildfires with these extreme conditions, but at an extreme cost.

Do you plan for the 50 year flood, the 100 year flood, or the 500 year flood?

It’s about balancing resources while managing risk.

You are very right. And the Republican critics of CA’s preparedness are the same ones who want to lower taxes and decrease federal funding for the exact things the at they claim CA should have done more of. You can’t have it both ways. Who is supposed to fund preparation, fire hydrant and reservoir maintenance, increased fire department resources, etc.? And don’t say individuals without acknowledging that the individuals with the most resources (Bezos, Musk, and so on down from there) are the very ones doing their best to shield their resources from taxation and call for bootstrapping.

I think republicans’ vision is basically a magical rich person who’s not them funding everything, or each individual homeowner standing in their yard with a hose and using zero public resources.

Find me a Republican who is calling for more preparedness AND willing to vote for more taxes to fund it and I’d happily vote for them.

Californians are heavily taxed.
You have wasted money and resources on your woke crap or supporting illegal aliens while diverting money from fire prevention (in this example).
Dems own this horrible fire disaster.

The news lately isn't stepping away from all that. They are admitting the money wasn't going to the fire department. Or preventive measures like it should have. Hopefully, policies will change after this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't really get why people insist on making it "but the dems/but GOP". Does anyone who lost their home care which side that was? Ultimately the people in charge of various factors came short in various ways, and Newsom himself said so! It's okay to say that. It doesn't mean you have to vote for Republicans next time either.

That's it. Do an investigation, find out who is responsible then fire them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.

To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.

Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.

To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.

Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.

Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the fire, water, & forestry efforts were underfunded & mismanaged, then the various levels of government are culpable.

If they WEREN’T underfunded or mismanaged, then the various levels of government are inept at employing those adequate resources.

But Newsom & Bass want us to believe nobody did anything wrong & STILL these fires are out of control. Somebody needs to send them one of those “The buck stops here!” signs.

There is a cost for preparedness. They could have made changes that could have mitigated the spread of wildfires with these extreme conditions, but at an extreme cost.

Do you plan for the 50 year flood, the 100 year flood, or the 500 year flood?

It’s about balancing resources while managing risk.

You are very right. And the Republican critics of CA’s preparedness are the same ones who want to lower taxes and decrease federal funding for the exact things the at they claim CA should have done more of. You can’t have it both ways. Who is supposed to fund preparation, fire hydrant and reservoir maintenance, increased fire department resources, etc.? And don’t say individuals without acknowledging that the individuals with the most resources (Bezos, Musk, and so on down from there) are the very ones doing their best to shield their resources from taxation and call for bootstrapping.

I think republicans’ vision is basically a magical rich person who’s not them funding everything, or each individual homeowner standing in their yard with a hose and using zero public resources.

Find me a Republican who is calling for more preparedness AND willing to vote for more taxes to fund it and I’d happily vote for them.

Californians are heavily taxed.
You have wasted money and resources on your woke crap or supporting illegal aliens while diverting money from fire prevention (in this example).
Dems own this horrible fire disaster.

The news lately isn't stepping away from all that. They are admitting the money wasn't going to the fire department. Or preventive measures like it should have. Hopefully, policies will change after this.

But a lot of the news is repeating false information. Look at what the fire chief said.