Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

No, in many red jurisdictions people PRIVATELY SUBSCRIBE OR GO WITHOUT.

This disaster was not something that anyone could have fully prepared for. The Monday morning quarterbacking is too early and dueled by misinformation. Whenever a large scale disaster occurs there is a review process to determine how we can prepare better for the next one. I feel sorry for the people in red states but I hope we can get their financial woes off our blue backs. States’ Rights! More resources for those who fight climate and science denial.
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Anonymous wrote:The entire GOP house delegation except David Valadao (who voted to impeach Trump) spent the weekend at Mar-a-Lago with other GOP members of the federal government to work on promulgation of their tax and immigration agenda. While their home state burned.


https://meidasnews.com/news/california-republicans-flee-to-mar-a-lago-as-la-burns

Photos documenting each one are all over SM.


Would you have preferred they attended a coronation in Africa instead?

It’s ludicrous to criticize Bass for being where our president asked her to be before the fires, while giving a pass to CA Congress Critters who abandoned their state with the fires raging to go to Mar-a-Lago


They were working on policies that affect their own state and constituents. Bass was in Africa for reasons that have nothing to do with LA and certainly don’t affect the people who voted her in to look after their city.


They were there to fellate the orange potato.
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Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

No, in many red jurisdictions people PRIVATELY SUBSCRIBE OR GO WITHOUT.

This disaster was not something that anyone could have fully prepared for. The Monday morning quarterbacking is too early and dueled by misinformation. Whenever a large scale disaster occurs there is a review process to determine how we can prepare better for the next one. I feel sorry for the people in red states but I hope we can get their financial woes off our blue backs. States’ Rights! More resources for those who fight climate and science denial.


MAGA MFers don't care about facts. They have their narrative they want to spew.
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Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

No, in many red jurisdictions people PRIVATELY SUBSCRIBE OR GO WITHOUT.

This disaster was not something that anyone could have fully prepared for. The Monday morning quarterbacking is too early and dueled by misinformation. Whenever a large scale disaster occurs there is a review process to determine how we can prepare better for the next one. I feel sorry for the people in red states but I hope we can get their financial woes off our blue backs. States’ Rights! More resources for those who fight climate and science denial.


Aren't we talking about LA here? They pay through taxes. And I am in a red state and we also pay through taxes for our firefighters. Enough red/blue crap. The point is this was poorly-managed regardless of the wind, and 100% could have been prepared for better (if you only believe Democrats, look to Newsom and councilwoman Traci Park who said so). I voted for Harris and I am so tired of "we blue do it well always!!" bullshit. Time to hold ALL our elected officials accountable because saying "the other guy is worse" (and yes, often GOP ARE worse) is an easy distraction technique to keep us all down and docile.
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Anonymous wrote:This horrendous tragedy’s proportions only continue to grow. Latest word is that
Patrisse Cullors has lost not just one but TWO of the three mansions she owns in LA.


She must be a very wealthy woman to own three mansions in California. Is she a celebrity?


Seems like she’s the BLM grifter who appropriated the millions in donations to buy herself some nice mansions.


Seems like she took the Trump approach towards donations.
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Anonymous wrote:I have several relatives who live in the area. It’s awful that they lost everything. They’re vocal Trump supporters so I do wonder how they will feel about being denied federal aid over politics.


I think they will understand. Things need to improve dramatically before taxpayers can fund anything. Wildfires are very destructive. There will be fires again. Soon. It would be like taxpayers being expected to rebuild homes destroyed in floods that will likely flood again in a decade or two. Intelligent people say no, no matter which side of the aisle they’re on.


Not sure. They’re very opposed to gov handouts so hopefully will not complain when it hits close to home.
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Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

No, in many red jurisdictions people PRIVATELY SUBSCRIBE OR GO WITHOUT.

This disaster was not something that anyone could have fully prepared for. The Monday morning quarterbacking is too early and dueled by misinformation. Whenever a large scale disaster occurs there is a review process to determine how we can prepare better for the next one. I feel sorry for the people in red states but I hope we can get their financial woes off our blue backs. States’ Rights! More resources for those who fight climate and science denial.


Aren't we talking about LA here? They pay through taxes. And I am in a red state and we also pay through taxes for our firefighters. Enough red/blue crap. The point is this was poorly-managed regardless of the wind, and 100% could have been prepared for better (if you only believe Democrats, look to Newsom and councilwoman Traci Park who said so). I voted for Harris and I am so tired of "we blue do it well always!!" bullshit. Time to hold ALL our elected officials accountable because saying "the other guy is worse" (and yes, often GOP ARE worse) is an easy distraction technique to keep us all down and docile.


No, we don't always do it well. But we also don't do 95% of the things that the Republicans are screaming about.

Independent assessment? Great. RWNJs pushing disinformation 24x7? No thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

No, in many red jurisdictions people PRIVATELY SUBSCRIBE OR GO WITHOUT.

This disaster was not something that anyone could have fully prepared for. The Monday morning quarterbacking is too early and dueled by misinformation. Whenever a large scale disaster occurs there is a review process to determine how we can prepare better for the next one. I feel sorry for the people in red states but I hope we can get their financial woes off our blue backs. States’ Rights! More resources for those who fight climate and science denial.


Aren't we talking about LA here? They pay through taxes. And I am in a red state and we also pay through taxes for our firefighters. Enough red/blue crap. The point is this was poorly-managed regardless of the wind, and 100% could have been prepared for better (if you only believe Democrats, look to Newsom and councilwoman Traci Park who said so). I voted for Harris and I am so tired of "we blue do it well always!!" bullshit. Time to hold ALL our elected officials accountable because saying "the other guy is worse" (and yes, often GOP ARE worse) is an easy distraction technique to keep us all down and docile.


No, we don't always do it well. But we also don't do 95% of the things that the Republicans are screaming about.

Independent assessment? Great. RWNJs pushing disinformation 24x7? No thanks.


That's fine and fair.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


This isn’t true and is more political BS.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

No, in many red jurisdictions people PRIVATELY SUBSCRIBE OR GO WITHOUT.

This disaster was not something that anyone could have fully prepared for. The Monday morning quarterbacking is too early and dueled by misinformation. Whenever a large scale disaster occurs there is a review process to determine how we can prepare better for the next one. I feel sorry for the people in red states but I hope we can get their financial woes off our blue backs. States’ Rights! More resources for those who fight climate and science denial.


Aren't we talking about LA here? They pay through taxes. And I am in a red state and we also pay through taxes for our firefighters. Enough red/blue crap. The point is this was poorly-managed regardless of the wind, and 100% could have been prepared for better (if you only believe Democrats, look to Newsom and councilwoman Traci Park who said so). I voted for Harris and I am so tired of "we blue do it well always!!" bullshit. Time to hold ALL our elected officials accountable because saying "the other guy is worse" (and yes, often GOP ARE worse) is an easy distraction technique to keep us all down and docile.


You make too much sense.
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Anonymous wrote:The entire GOP house delegation except David Valadao (who voted to impeach Trump) spent the weekend at Mar-a-Lago with other GOP members of the federal government to work on promulgation of their tax and immigration agenda. While their home state burned.


https://meidasnews.com/news/california-republicans-flee-to-mar-a-lago-as-la-burns

Photos documenting each one are all over SM.


Good. Immigration is a huge problem and glad they are getting a head start.

Too bad the LA government wasn’t proactive like this group.


This mayor seems very inept. Like she's in way over her head..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vevbd6ZqBlU
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Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


Exactly. Why did the other homes not have access to adequate protection?

And if funds are limited then why is the mayor spending money traveling to Ghana?


Bass was invited to Ghana by President Biden as part of a foreign delegation. Paid for with federal dollars.

Ghana is a client state of the U.S. and this is part of efforts to keep China out of Africa.

So I guess you want to let China take over Africa?


She was collecting her salary from LA at the time, and therefore her concern should have been on LA not Africa.


If it’s that much an issue for you, you can vote for someone else next election.


Let us hope CA will then vote for better politicians.
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There is a big difference between the rich who are losing their house and the super rich who control California and its water.

This was posted in politics but was enlightening.

While 40 million Californians suffer through unprecedented drought, one billionaire couple owns a massive share of the state's water system, largely seized in a series of secretive meetings two decades ago.

That system was largely paid for by the very taxpayers whose water these billionaires hold hostage. The Resnicks are the biggest farmers in California–as of 2007 they owned four San Francisco’s worth of farmland. Nearly half of Americans buy at least one of their products: pistachios, POM pomegranate juice, mandarins, flowers, and more.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4B19qb1Az94
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rick Caruso (who ran against Bass) protected his neighborhood and businesses with private fire companies and his own water tanks. Pacific Village which he owns did not burn down, and everything around it did. That opens up the question of privilege and wealth/entitlement on his part, but it also shows something went wrong here in terms of scope of response, because nothing else can explain that specific area not burning v. surrounding ones burning. Manpower and water were insufficient.


To me, it shows that he’s competent. Maybe the people there will vote for the competent person next time.


Uh, no. He had his private firefighters sit on their hands while the nearby houses burned down.

This is exactly how it works in many red jurisdictions. You want a fire department? You pay to subscribe. If you can’t afford it, too bad. And they will come to protect your neighbor’s house while they watch yours burn.


Um, yes. People pay through taxes. It didn't do them any good in LA.

No, in many red jurisdictions people PRIVATELY SUBSCRIBE OR GO WITHOUT.

This disaster was not something that anyone could have fully prepared for. The Monday morning quarterbacking is too early and dueled by misinformation. Whenever a large scale disaster occurs there is a review process to determine how we can prepare better for the next one. I feel sorry for the people in red states but I hope we can get their financial woes off our blue backs. States’ Rights! More resources for those who fight climate and science denial.


MAGA MFers don't care about facts. They have their narrative they want to spew.



That LA fire chief complained. She must be MAGA lol.
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Anonymous wrote:There is a big difference between the rich who are losing their house and the super rich who control California and its water.

This was posted in politics but was enlightening.

While 40 million Californians suffer through unprecedented drought, one billionaire couple owns a massive share of the state's water system, largely seized in a series of secretive meetings two decades ago.

That system was largely paid for by the very taxpayers whose water these billionaires hold hostage. The Resnicks are the biggest farmers in California–as of 2007 they owned four San Francisco’s worth of farmland. Nearly half of Americans buy at least one of their products: pistachios, POM pomegranate juice, mandarins, flowers, and more.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4B19qb1Az94


Idk if "hold hostage" is a fair assessment. How many jobs do these many agricultural ventures provide? How much do they pay in taxes? How much revenue goes to the state? It's not like they benefit 100% as a couple and nobody else does.
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