Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:As an American taxpayer with no real interest in how the problem is resolved, I feel used by Israel. I feel like they have so abused their position of power and authority (and my money) and are now attempting to drag my country and our soldiers into this war.

All the relentless comparisons to ISIS and Nazis are hyperbolic. There is no existential threat to Israel or the Jewish people. There does seem to be an existential threat to the Palestinian people.

I am for pulling out of the MidEast permanently. Let them solve their problems without any more US money or interference.

You are wrong about that. If the US pulled support of Israel, it would be the end of Israel.

It is past time the US stopped shielding Israel from its war crimes.

If Israel needs to commit a genocide to exit, then maybe the Israel shouldn’t exist. The third reich is gone, but Germans are thriving. Israel could end and Jews could live in a new democracy that doesn’t require keeping Palestinians in a concentration camp or killing them en masse.

I’m the PP who made the original comment as a US taxpayer. I am not opposed at all to Israel existing. I think there’s probably some value to the US in its existence.

But I am opposed to being dragged into an endless abyss of war because a madman war criminal (Netanyahu) can blow the region to smithereens.

No. Thank you.

I agree with you and I believe Biden is on the right track but the situation is diplomatically very complex. We can’t just walk away. It would be a disaster. Watch closely. The alternative (something like Trump) would be worse—you think things are bad today???

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Anonymous wrote:As an American taxpayer with no real interest in how the problem is resolved, I feel used by Israel. I feel like they have so abused their position of power and authority (and my money) and are now attempting to drag my country and our soldiers into this war.

All the relentless comparisons to ISIS and Nazis are hyperbolic. There is no existential threat to Israel or the Jewish people. There does seem to be an existential threat to the Palestinian people.

I am for pulling out of the MidEast permanently. Let them solve their problems without any more US money or interference.

You are wrong about that. If the US pulled support of Israel, it would be the end of Israel.

nope

It’s 100% true, and Bibi knows it. That’s why he listens to the US.

And that is exactly why I will not be supporting Biden. He could have prevented the escalation, thousands of dead babies, and razing of homes. Instead he just hugged Netanyahu.

He is gormless.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel is quickly losing the moral high Israelis have killed thousands of Palestinian children--how many of those were Hamas? I get that innocents are accidentally killed in war, but Israel's strategy is to kill Palestinians--including exploding buildings with babies and elderly--as an excuse for routing out Hamas. There is no interpretation of just war that allows for the ratio of civilians to militants killed to be that high. NONE.
Israel has blood on its hands now. Reasonable people understood the horror of Hamas' killing of Israeli civilians. The same reasonable people also see that what Israel's killing of hundreds, if not thousands, of children of Gaza is morally reprehensible and not justifiable under any circumstance. Schande.

Please provide a citation for your assertion that that’s Israel’s strategy.

Otherwise I’ll just assume you’re talking out of your ass.

What is Israel's strategy? How many of the hundreds, if not thousands, of Palestinians killed by Israelis are Hamas militants? And let's assume that half of those killed are babies, toddlers, children. How many humans have Israelis killed in Gaza are Hamas? How many are civliians?

Hamas could defend their people if they weren’t such cowards hiding behind their women and children. Encourage Hamas to crawl out of their tunnels and engage the IDF in a fight. You know they won’t because they simply view their people as pawns to be used to further their brutality.

So answer the questions, or are you admitting that the IDF is knowingly killing far more civilians than Hamas militants? That is a war crime. And yes, Hamas is despicable, but Israel should not respond by committing war crimes in return.

Hamas is knowingly and willingly using its own people to cower behind. They are the ones condemning the Palestinians of Gaza to death all because they are frightened of Israelis. The war crime is entirely theirs.
Encourage Hamas’ fighters to emerge from hiding behind their women and children. Hamas won’t of course because they don’t value the lives of their own innocents.
Hamas are cowards who can do nothing but destroy the lives of innocents.

Again, Israel should not be committing war crimes by killing a disproportionate number of civilians to militants. You are so blinded that you cannot see that the IDF are committing war crimes. War crimes are never justified; even if your enemy is committing them. Hamas as committed atrocious war crimes, but you do not seem to understand that Israel is not morally in the right by decimating hundreds of innocent children in Gaza as "collateral" damage.

Hamas should then emerge from hiding and fight. But everyone knows they are cowards who will just as eagerly sacrifice the lives of Israeli innocents as they will their own women and children who they force to shield them and their worthless lives.
Did you expect anything less though from the government of Hamas whose own charter only classifies women as the bearers of men?

Hamas did emerge to fight in Israel. They only took all those hostages over to Gaza because according to people at the kibbutz, cops and military didn’t arrive for hours.

When they finally did emerge, Israelis that (Hamas had taken as shields) were also being killed in the crossfire .

One of the poor hostages , the 85 year old woman, said Hamas sent balloons and threats in the days or weeks prior so there were was a warning And Israel knew this attack was coming.

I would assume anything she says and does publicly is because her husband is still a hostage. I would not believe anything she says because it is under duress.

And if her husband compliments Hamas too, then what? Stockholm syndrome?

Please tell me you’re not trying to argue that they truly had a nice experience with Hamas.

There’s nothing nice about being captured by a kill squad but humane treatment -yes. That is what she is saying . She also said the kibbutz got several warnings in the weeks prior of Hamas’ entry and they were ignored by the Shin Bet and IDF. I also believe her 100%.

What reason would she have to lie? She’s fully cognizant and isn’t senile

So Hamas won’t execute her husband.

Hamas never executes or
Tortures any Israeli held hostage. Even Gilad Shalit , an IDF soldier, who was held for five years by Hamas said that he was treated humanely . Hamas claims to follow Islamic
Rules regarding treating captives humanely whatever that means

I actually think Hezbollah and the Lebanese front is actually a bigger problem for Israel . I think they are crazier than Hamas

I see. So if you are lucky enough to be captured rather than being a Thai farm worker slowly beheaded by a garden hoe, the people who did the beheading will treat you just fine and won’t torture you. Good to know.

They beheaded someone with a garden hoe? I know atrocities occurred, but I haven't gone deeply down that rabbit hole (for my own mental/emotional health). Not denying it, just appalled.

Yes. And they did it slowly. A day or two ago the video was still on Twitter, and I believe is widely available elsewhere if you look, although I don’t recommend it as I cannot unsee it. The Thai farm worker was visibly struggling in between each blow.

And, be aware that they didn't even bother taking the Thai workers hostage because they knew the Thai government wouldn't speak up for them.

This really shows how any Western armchair leftist gets it wrong. The Palestinians aren't really "POC" to begin with, and they certainly didn't recognize any solidarity with these poor workers who are certainly "POC".

Wow, you're really off base and living in your own fantasy world. Thai farm workers are indeed being held hostage.

https://www.reuters.com/world/distraught-parents-thai-seized-israel-plead-help-hostages-2023-10-10/

This really shows how you get everything else wrong

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GW students projected “Glory to our martyrs” onto a building.

Is this what you all term simply being pro-Palestinian people?

In Arab/Muslim culture, any victim of a murder is considered a martyr. This doesn’t necessarily glorify militants. The martyrs are likely dead civilians. Dumb because they should know not everyone understands that.

Because these slogans are totally just about mourning civilians:

Glory to our martyrs
Free Palestine From the river to the sea
Divestment from Zionist genocide now

You also know that jihadist terrorist groups consistently use martyr language to talk about their fighters who die.

Can you think of a country that doesn't glorify soldiers killed in battle?

And, it is totally another to glorify the terrorists who attacked innocent civilians and slaughtered them - including infants, women and toddlers.
That is what we are seeing around the world and sadly, right here in the US.

+1000

+ a million.

How exactly does one “free Palestine From River to Sea”?

Sickening.

How does it threaten you to imagine Palestinians being free?

Do you really feel the need subject an entire population to a prison camp so you can feel safe? Do you need to bomb hospitals and schools to feel safe? How many people must die in the fight to deny basic human rights for Palestinians?

Tell us what “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” means in practice.

a single state that doesnt promote or prefer any religion over another... kind of like the one DC is the capital of. There are a lot of multiethnic, multi religious States in the world. My parents came here from a former democracy that became an "islamic republic"- no-one living in an 'insert-name of religion here' state is freer or safer or better off b/c of that. Separation of religion and government is ALWAYS a liberating and positive thing, religious republics are inherently backward and inherently illiberal. Jews and Christians and Muslims need to establish a secular state in that area and live with ppl who believe differently than them, just like we manage to do in Canada and here. Our system is superior to others,The first amendment to the US constitution is an act of brilliance and is superior to other ways of life, it is ok to admit that and other countries should copy it.

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Anonymous wrote:As an American taxpayer with no real interest in how the problem is resolved, I feel used by Israel. I feel like they have so abused their position of power and authority (and my money) and are now attempting to drag my country and our soldiers into this war.

All the relentless comparisons to ISIS and Nazis are hyperbolic. There is no existential threat to Israel or the Jewish people. There does seem to be an existential threat to the Palestinian people.

I am for pulling out of the MidEast permanently. Let them solve their problems without any more US money or interference.

You are wrong about that. If the US pulled support of Israel, it would be the end of Israel.

nope

It’s 100% true, and Bibi knows it. That’s why he listens to the US.

And that is exactly why I will not be supporting Biden. He could have prevented the escalation, thousands of dead babies, and razing of homes. Instead he just hugged Netanyahu.

He is gormless.

You are in denial. Biden prevented more death and bought time. Ground invasion hasn’t started yet has it?

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Anonymous wrote:Israel is quickly losing the moral high Israelis have killed thousands of Palestinian children--how many of those were Hamas? I get that innocents are accidentally killed in war, but Israel's strategy is to kill Palestinians--including exploding buildings with babies and elderly--as an excuse for routing out Hamas. There is no interpretation of just war that allows for the ratio of civilians to militants killed to be that high. NONE.
Israel has blood on its hands now. Reasonable people understood the horror of Hamas' killing of Israeli civilians. The same reasonable people also see that what Israel's killing of hundreds, if not thousands, of children of Gaza is morally reprehensible and not justifiable under any circumstance. Schande.

Please provide a citation for your assertion that that’s Israel’s strategy.

Otherwise I’ll just assume you’re talking out of your ass.

What is Israel's strategy? How many of the hundreds, if not thousands, of Palestinians killed by Israelis are Hamas militants? And let's assume that half of those killed are babies, toddlers, children. How many humans have Israelis killed in Gaza are Hamas? How many are civliians?

Hamas could defend their people if they weren’t such cowards hiding behind their women and children. Encourage Hamas to crawl out of their tunnels and engage the IDF in a fight. You know they won’t because they simply view their people as pawns to be used to further their brutality.

So answer the questions, or are you admitting that the IDF is knowingly killing far more civilians than Hamas militants? That is a war crime. And yes, Hamas is despicable, but Israel should not respond by committing war crimes in return.

Hamas is knowingly and willingly using its own people to cower behind. They are the ones condemning the Palestinians of Gaza to death all because they are frightened of Israelis. The war crime is entirely theirs.
Encourage Hamas’ fighters to emerge from hiding behind their women and children. Hamas won’t of course because they don’t value the lives of their own innocents.
Hamas are cowards who can do nothing but destroy the lives of innocents.

Again, Israel should not be committing war crimes by killing a disproportionate number of civilians to militants. You are so blinded that you cannot see that the IDF are committing war crimes. War crimes are never justified; even if your enemy is committing them. Hamas as committed atrocious war crimes, but you do not seem to understand that Israel is not morally in the right by decimating hundreds of innocent children in Gaza as "collateral" damage.

Hamas should then emerge from hiding and fight. But everyone knows they are cowards who will just as eagerly sacrifice the lives of Israeli innocents as they will their own women and children who they force to shield them and their worthless lives.
Did you expect anything less though from the government of Hamas whose own charter only classifies women as the bearers of men?

Hamas did emerge to fight in Israel. They only took all those hostages over to Gaza because according to people at the kibbutz, cops and military didn’t arrive for hours.

When they finally did emerge, Israelis that (Hamas had taken as shields) were also being killed in the crossfire .

One of the poor hostages , the 85 year old woman, said Hamas sent balloons and threats in the days or weeks prior so there were was a warning And Israel knew this attack was coming.

I would assume anything she says and does publicly is because her husband is still a hostage. I would not believe anything she says because it is under duress.

And if her husband compliments Hamas too, then what? Stockholm syndrome?

Please tell me you’re not trying to argue that they truly had a nice experience with Hamas.

There’s nothing nice about being captured by a kill squad but humane treatment -yes. That is what she is saying . She also said the kibbutz got several warnings in the weeks prior of Hamas’ entry and they were ignored by the Shin Bet and IDF. I also believe her 100%.

What reason would she have to lie? She’s fully cognizant and isn’t senile

So Hamas won’t execute her husband.

Hamas never executes or
Tortures any Israeli held hostage. Even Gilad Shalit , an IDF soldier, who was held for five years by Hamas said that he was treated humanely . Hamas claims to follow Islamic
Rules regarding treating captives humanely whatever that means

I actually think Hezbollah and the Lebanese front is actually a bigger problem for Israel . I think they are crazier than Hamas

I see. So if you are lucky enough to be captured rather than being a Thai farm worker slowly beheaded by a garden hoe, the people who did the beheading will treat you just fine and won’t torture you. Good to know.

They beheaded someone with a garden hoe? I know atrocities occurred, but I haven't gone deeply down that rabbit hole (for my own mental/emotional health). Not denying it, just appalled.

Yes. And they did it slowly. A day or two ago the video was still on Twitter, and I believe is widely available elsewhere if you look, although I don’t recommend it as I cannot unsee it. The Thai farm worker was visibly struggling in between each blow.

And, be aware that they didn't even bother taking the Thai workers hostage because they knew the Thai government wouldn't speak up for them.

This really shows how any Western armchair leftist gets it wrong. The Palestinians aren't really "POC" to begin with, and they certainly didn't recognize any solidarity with these poor workers who are certainly "POC".

You are my favorite poster on this thread because your arguments get more and more insane with time.

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Anonymous wrote:Rania, the Palestinian-born Queen of Jordan, speaks out:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/24/middleeast/queen-rania-jordan-amanpour-interview-intl/index.html

Hey Rania -- why not give the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan citizenship?

They are treated like second class citizens, without the full rights of other Jordanians.

Terrible.

Hey Bibi/Israel, why not give back Palestinian land you've stolen?

Oh, do you mean like Israel tried to do in 2000 with the two-state deal and 95% of 1967 borders? And financial reparations?

Let's discuss those brand new settlements in the West Bank......

Great! If Arafat had accepted the deal, those brand new settlements would not exist and that's a fact. Palestine would be 23 years old.

So the settlers currently stealing Palestinian land and killing Palestinians are doing so because of Arafat?

Here is an article that attempts to capture the failures of each side in the Oslo Accords.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/why-the-oslo-accords-failed/

The squatters can do that because they are protected by a militarized state that is given cover by an even larger militarized state.

I would not have taken the “great deal” if I were Palestinian. It totally ignored the right of Palestinians to return to their homes. Why would they just give that up? That was a bad deal.

Arafat didn’t even counter with another offer. He walked away and Hamas took advantage of the situation by declaring the Second Intifada.

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Anonymous wrote:As an American taxpayer with no real interest in how the problem is resolved, I feel used by Israel. I feel like they have so abused their position of power and authority (and my money) and are now attempting to drag my country and our soldiers into this war.

All the relentless comparisons to ISIS and Nazis are hyperbolic. There is no existential threat to Israel or the Jewish people. There does seem to be an existential threat to the Palestinian people.

I am for pulling out of the MidEast permanently. Let them solve their problems without any more US money or interference.

You are wrong about that. If the US pulled support of Israel, it would be the end of Israel.

It is past time the US stopped shielding Israel from its war crimes.

If Israel needs to commit a genocide to exit, then maybe the Israel shouldn’t exist. The third reich is gone, but Germans are thriving. Israel could end and Jews could live in a new democracy that doesn’t require keeping Palestinians in a concentration camp or killing them en masse.

Counter: Hamas is the new Third Reich.

It's a pretty lathetic knock off then. Not even Hong Kong Rolex quality. No snappy uniforms, no big war machine, etc. It's a relatively small group making homemade rockets out of water pipes. Evil and murderous but not actually capable of carrying out their big rhetoric.

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Anonymous wrote:When the UN secretary speaks neutrally with a huge emphasis on Israels rights, Israel goes bonkers and asks for his resignation and labels him a terrorist apologist. That’s the world we live in

Fake news.

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GW students projected “Glory to our martyrs” onto a building.

Is this what you all term simply being pro-Palestinian people?

In Arab/Muslim culture, any victim of a murder is considered a martyr. This doesn’t necessarily glorify militants. The martyrs are likely dead civilians. Dumb because they should know not everyone understands that.

Because these slogans are totally just about mourning civilians:

Glory to our martyrs
Free Palestine From the river to the sea
Divestment from Zionist genocide now

You also know that jihadist terrorist groups consistently use martyr language to talk about their fighters who die.

Can you think of a country that doesn't glorify soldiers killed in battle?

And, it is totally another to glorify the terrorists who attacked innocent civilians and slaughtered them - including infants, women and toddlers.
That is what we are seeing around the world and sadly, right here in the US.

+1000

+ a million.

How exactly does one “free Palestine From River to Sea”?

Sickening.

How does it threaten you to imagine Palestinians being free?

Do you really feel the need subject an entire population to a prison camp so you can feel safe? Do you need to bomb hospitals and schools to feel safe? How many people must die in the fight to deny basic human rights for Palestinians?

Tell us what “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” means in practice.

a single state that doesnt promote or prefer any religion over another... kind of like the one DC is the capital of. There are a lot of multiethnic, multi religious States in the world. My parents came here from a former democracy that became an "islamic republic"- no-one living in an 'insert-name of religion here' state is freer or safer or better off b/c of that. Separation of religion and government is ALWAYS a liberating and positive thing, religious republics are inherently backward and inherently illiberal. Jews and Christians and Muslims need to establish a secular state in that area and live with ppl who believe differently than them, just like we manage to do in Canada and here. Our system is superior to others,The first amendment to the US constitution is an act of brilliance and is superior to other ways of life, it is ok to admit that and other countries should copy it.

Oh sweet summer child.

You think a “Palestine will be free” slogan is meant to be a call for a multiethnic democracy?

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Anonymous wrote:As an American taxpayer with no real interest in how the problem is resolved, I feel used by Israel. I feel like they have so abused their position of power and authority (and my money) and are now attempting to drag my country and our soldiers into this war.

All the relentless comparisons to ISIS and Nazis are hyperbolic. There is no existential threat to Israel or the Jewish people. There does seem to be an existential threat to the Palestinian people.

I am for pulling out of the MidEast permanently. Let them solve their problems without any more US money or interference.

You are wrong about that. If the US pulled support of Israel, it would be the end of Israel.

It is past time the US stopped shielding Israel from its war crimes.

If Israel needs to commit a genocide to exit, then maybe the Israel shouldn’t exist. The third reich is gone, but Germans are thriving. Israel could end and Jews could live in a new democracy that doesn’t require keeping Palestinians in a concentration camp or killing them en masse.

I’m the PP who made the original comment as a US taxpayer. I am not opposed at all to Israel existing. I think there’s probably some value to the US in its existence.

But I am opposed to being dragged into an endless abyss of war because a madman war criminal (Netanyahu) can blow the region to smithereens.

No. Thank you.

I agree with you and I believe Biden is on the right track but the situation is diplomatically very complex. We can’t just walk away. It would be a disaster. Watch closely. The alternative (something like Trump) would be worse—you think things are bad today???

Maybe you’re right. I think the choice is not complex. I am against dead children. All dead children. I can’t unsee the dead Israeli babies, and I can’t unsee the dead Palestinian babies. And I really can’t unsee Biden hugging the monster. I hope he pivots soon to end this way, but it will be too late for this voter.

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Anonymous wrote:Rania, the Palestinian-born Queen of Jordan, speaks out:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/24/middleeast/queen-rania-jordan-amanpour-interview-intl/index.html

Hey Rania -- why not give the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan citizenship?

They are treated like second class citizens, without the full rights of other Jordanians.

Terrible.

Hey Bibi/Israel, why not give back Palestinian land you've stolen?

Oh, do you mean like Israel tried to do in 2000 with the two-state deal and 95% of 1967 borders? And financial reparations?

Let's discuss those brand new settlements in the West Bank......

Great! If Arafat had accepted the deal, those brand new settlements would not exist and that's a fact. Palestine would be 23 years old.

Let's not pretend that you know what was offered and what was rejected.

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Israel bombed a Christian church that dates back to the 12th century, killing relatives of former MI rep Justin Amash.

They did not target the church itself.

Right, they targeted an adjacent building where Christians, including former rep. Amash's relatives, were sheltering, killing them. And they knew it would damage the historic church.

There was a Hamas command center next to the church. Would your recommendation be that Israel just leave the command center be?

Former rep. Amash's relatives were not members of Hamas. They didn't need to die. You're the king of false dilemmas.

I’m not sure you’re clear on what collateral damage is.

Collateral damage is warfare propaganda by countries that are not held accountable.

I guess Christian lives don't matter. They're just "collateral damage".

Terming something as collateral damage doesn’t mean their lives don’t matter.

They didn't matter enough to prevent the primary damage from taking place. So, ultimately, it does mean their lives don't matter. Everything and everyone else must take a backseat to Israel's blood revenge.

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Anonymous wrote:As an American taxpayer with no real interest in how the problem is resolved, I feel used by Israel. I feel like they have so abused their position of power and authority (and my money) and are now attempting to drag my country and our soldiers into this war.

All the relentless comparisons to ISIS and Nazis are hyperbolic. There is no existential threat to Israel or the Jewish people. There does seem to be an existential threat to the Palestinian people.

I am for pulling out of the MidEast permanently. Let them solve their problems without any more US money or interference.

You are wrong about that. If the US pulled support of Israel, it would be the end of Israel.

nope

It’s 100% true, and Bibi knows it. That’s why he listens to the US.

And that is exactly why I will not be supporting Biden. He could have prevented the escalation, thousands of dead babies, and razing of homes. Instead he just hugged Netanyahu.

He is gormless.

You are in denial. Biden prevented more death and bought time. Ground invasion hasn’t started yet has it?

And yet 1.4 million Palestinians are homeless because US missiles have razed their homes. I don’t feel I’m denying that fact. Maybe the Israelis just prefer to do their massacres from the air.

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Anonymous wrote:When the UN secretary speaks neutrally with a huge emphasis on Israels rights, Israel goes bonkers and asks for his resignation and labels him a terrorist apologist. That’s the world we live in

Fake news.

Here for you: Israel was outraged by Guterres’s comments. UN envoy Gilad Erdan called them “shocking,” and demanded that the secretary general resign. Foreign Minister Eli Cohen canceled a meeting with Guterres, and Minister Benny Gantz labeled the UN chief a “terror apologist.

Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-livid-after-un-chief-says-hamas-attacks-did-not-occur-in-vacuum/amp/