Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
OK, but I see Gen Z in the Metro wearing pants cuts and sweater styles that my mom wore in 1985. It absolutely floors me. It legitimately looks like they took one of my mom's outfits from the Sears Cheryl Tiegs catalogue.
I'm sure our resident Stacy London here will have an explanation shortly about how that's chic but Meghan's Cartier watch screams nouveau riche and millennial or some shit, idk.
Stacy London? Damn. Talk about dated references... you must be over 40.
DP Are you experiencing a midlife crisis? What is with the hyper fixation on things being dated?
I missed the memo where you can't even make an older reference lol.
I'm not, but you appear to be going through one whenever anyone points out (rightfully) that your clothing and references are dated. What's wrong with that? You're allowed to proudly walk around in your millennial page and have everyone able to pin your age, in the same way a 65 year old woman can waltz around in their QVC comfort sweatshirt and not be surprised that people pin her for being a grandma. You speak and dress with a very distinctive time/era/middle aged vibe. What's the issue?
I think there is a lot more than a comfort sweatshirt that would pin someone as a grandma.
You’re hilariously fixated on this. Are you one of those people who actually reads those ads that tell you things like stop carrying around a bag at a certain age and takes them to heart?
No, just someone who has a bare minimum ability to observe fashion trends and generational tendencies. That's why it's so amusing watching you crash out- you really thought there was nothing dated about your skinny jeans and ballet boots, and cannot stand to have someone point out that your style is passe now. Are you one of those people who genuinely believed that they could pass for ten years younger?
Writing all this and accusing someone else of crashing out is insaneeeeeeeee
It's the truth! Y'all wouldn't be going on and on and on and trying to defend yourselves and arguing that chambray is still cool for pages if you werent crashing out. That's what a crash out is, my love.
No one has argued that chambray was cool! You are the only one mentioning chambray shirts!
Yes someone was mad about chambray shirts being brought up, lol. I'm sure they thought they looked *very* hip and avant garde in their chambray
It matters where you are too. Chambray is preppy, timeless California casual.
it's really not. Chambray is super dated, especially in the styles that were popular for millennials.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
Yes, I do get that for some people's style but Meghan's doesn't particularly read dated to me. Some other millennials' style does. I agree with the other poster, please give detailed examples of how to update and freshen the aesthetic of the show.
Yeah but that's what I'm trying to explain! You're a self admitted millennial and cant see the forest for the trees, lol. I did give some examples to the other poster but tbh it's not really my job to explain to middle-aged moms who think white skinny jeans and a chambray button down is totally chic about current fashion trends, lmao. You can always look up Vogue articles, use ChatGTP, or even open a dedicated thread here on DCUM if you truly want advice on updating your wardrobe (although this board skews Gen X so you might not get much help). Good luck!
Okay, first of all, the fact that you think people were asking for their own edification and not because you sounded ridiculous just blanket-stating that the show was dated. People were asking because they wanted you to show your work, not because they wanted your fashion advice lmfao.
Second of all, for someone claiming to be a fashion expert, there is a difference between chic and trendy. A button down and jeans is chic. Whatever flavor of the week the Gen z tiktok influencers are wearing is trendy.
The show *is* dated. The fact that that bothers a legion of self identified middle aged moms who are admitting that they developed their person style in the 2010s and havent updated it since the series finale of Girls doesn't change that fact, lmao.
A button down and jeans is no longer chic, not in the way most millennial women wear it. The fact that you cannot, cannot, CANNOT see this and are sooooo entrenched in the Isabel Marant aesthetic from 2010 is very, very telling about how out of touch you are with current fashions. Even the fact that you're so bothered by this discussion says that you know very well that your personal style stopped evolving a good decade back. And yes, you probably do look dated and old when you're out and about running errands, which is why I suspect you're so upset with the conversation.
Dp. Not sure what your point is here. I’m a millennial woman who didn’t like the show but her overall fashion is not really the issue, other than it being laughable that MM claims to cook in drapey all white clothes. And most millennial women I know don’t care about being trendy anymore. We’ve got way too much else to worry about between careers, husbands, kids and elderly parents. Not sure why you’re so obsessed with insulting people over something this silly.
It may not be the issue for you but it is for others, especially if she wants to attract a desirable younger demographic. I also dont hate MM, but was just sooooo struck by how out of date the whole thing seemed.
Yes, and we are saying she probably does not want to attract a younger demographic. MM is almost 45 years old. I don't think she's worried if a bunch of 19 year old tiktok "girlies" like her show.
Well she probably should, especially with how catastrophically unpopular she is with the GP. And relegating herself to the middle aged mom demo is pretty limiting, especially as time passes and that demo ages up with her.
But the type of show is inherently geared towards older audiences. Young women just aren't interested in learning how to decorate for kids' birthday parties.
Why can’t anyone do a practical yet aspirational cooking/home show? I’m sure there is one out there but I don’t know it. Jacques Pepin has a ‘fast food’ cook book that I like. Fast takes on elevated recipes. 20 something year olds don’t have time to make their own candles, nor do I (millennial) but 20 year dc and I would both happily watch a show that helped us make nice meals with short cuts like frozen veggies, canned blah blah. I don’t typically have time to go harvest my own honey when making a meal for the day.
Honestly someone should do that, targeted at college kids and recent graduates! I believe Daphne Oz tried (or maybe she wrote a book about it) back in the day. Though I feel like targeting yourself at the "youth" (I'm sure I'll be flamed by the troll for using a "dated" word in 3..2...) inherently does better in modern forms of media vs. longform like books or TV.
Ummmm AKSHUALLY it's dated to call kids "youth" that's how I know you're a millennial who liked watching Girls and wears button downs!!!!!!!
Millennial here. I never liked girls but whatever. What’s wrong with button downs? I’m genuinely curious…
Nothing. This poster is insane. They have been here for like an hour now (admittedly I have been on DCUM for an hour now too, so I am NOT shaming her for that) insulting people, calling them poor/fat/old/dated.
LOL! Coming from a supposed crew of moms (provided it's not just sockpuppets responding to each other) who have been on this thread for HOURS on end and have brought it to NINETY pages because of their inability to hear ANY criticism about MM? Do any of you have jobs?
DP. I’ve been here on and off this AM as I get ready for work - running late bc I’m not feeling well…
Serious question for you based on your writing style. Do you own a pit bull?
I think the lower economic poster who used the phrase "bit ching" unironically probably does And then got so mad that anyone would bring up wealth background...
OMG THAT WAS ME EARLIER!! You're still mad about that?! Because I wouldn't watch your dumb video because I said the lady was shrill? omfg lol I'm sorry that hurt your feelings.
Wait you're still here?! Girl! How long have you been hanging on this board arguing with people? OMG!!
DP Well...by that logic, that would mean you've also been on this board arguing with people.
I guess what's amazing to me is this was already going when I popped in and given the length of this thread it's clear this is not a one time thing. I dont know if this is truly a bunch of different users who just kind of regularly dogpile and gang up because they love MM, or it's just one crazy and kind of uneducated/poor SES sockpuppet talking to themselves... but it's really fascinating. I'm starting to think people just hang out here EVERY SINGLE day and now I'm wondering if we should like post this thread to TattleLife or something so those users can brigade right back and anger the Meghan Markle obsessives that seem to be in here. I've never seen a thread like this on DCUM before and it's grimly captivating
What is Tattle Life?
A gossip forum. They HATE MM and would have a field day with some of the posters here tbh
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
Yes, I do get that for some people's style but Meghan's doesn't particularly read dated to me. Some other millennials' style does. I agree with the other poster, please give detailed examples of how to update and freshen the aesthetic of the show.
Yeah but that's what I'm trying to explain! You're a self admitted millennial and cant see the forest for the trees, lol. I did give some examples to the other poster but tbh it's not really my job to explain to middle-aged moms who think white skinny jeans and a chambray button down is totally chic about current fashion trends, lmao. You can always look up Vogue articles, use ChatGTP, or even open a dedicated thread here on DCUM if you truly want advice on updating your wardrobe (although this board skews Gen X so you might not get much help). Good luck!
Okay, first of all, the fact that you think people were asking for their own edification and not because you sounded ridiculous just blanket-stating that the show was dated. People were asking because they wanted you to show your work, not because they wanted your fashion advice lmfao.
Second of all, for someone claiming to be a fashion expert, there is a difference between chic and trendy. A button down and jeans is chic. Whatever flavor of the week the Gen z tiktok influencers are wearing is trendy.
The show *is* dated. The fact that that bothers a legion of self identified middle aged moms who are admitting that they developed their person style in the 2010s and havent updated it since the series finale of Girls doesn't change that fact, lmao.
A button down and jeans is no longer chic, not in the way most millennial women wear it. The fact that you cannot, cannot, CANNOT see this and are sooooo entrenched in the Isabel Marant aesthetic from 2010 is very, very telling about how out of touch you are with current fashions. Even the fact that you're so bothered by this discussion says that you know very well that your personal style stopped evolving a good decade back. And yes, you probably do look dated and old when you're out and about running errands, which is why I suspect you're so upset with the conversation.
Dp. Not sure what your point is here. I’m a millennial woman who didn’t like the show but her overall fashion is not really the issue, other than it being laughable that MM claims to cook in drapey all white clothes. And most millennial women I know don’t care about being trendy anymore. We’ve got way too much else to worry about between careers, husbands, kids and elderly parents. Not sure why you’re so obsessed with insulting people over something this silly.
It may not be the issue for you but it is for others, especially if she wants to attract a desirable younger demographic. I also dont hate MM, but was just sooooo struck by how out of date the whole thing seemed.
Yes, and we are saying she probably does not want to attract a younger demographic. MM is almost 45 years old. I don't think she's worried if a bunch of 19 year old tiktok "girlies" like her show.
Well she probably should, especially with how catastrophically unpopular she is with the GP. And relegating herself to the middle aged mom demo is pretty limiting, especially as time passes and that demo ages up with her.
But the type of show is inherently geared towards older audiences. Young women just aren't interested in learning how to decorate for kids' birthday parties.
Why can’t anyone do a practical yet aspirational cooking/home show? I’m sure there is one out there but I don’t know it. Jacques Pepin has a ‘fast food’ cook book that I like. Fast takes on elevated recipes. 20 something year olds don’t have time to make their own candles, nor do I (millennial) but 20 year dc and I would both happily watch a show that helped us make nice meals with short cuts like frozen veggies, canned blah blah. I don’t typically have time to go harvest my own honey when making a meal for the day.
Honestly someone should do that, targeted at college kids and recent graduates! I believe Daphne Oz tried (or maybe she wrote a book about it) back in the day. Though I feel like targeting yourself at the "youth" (I'm sure I'll be flamed by the troll for using a "dated" word in 3..2...) inherently does better in modern forms of media vs. longform like books or TV.
Ummmm AKSHUALLY it's dated to call kids "youth" that's how I know you're a millennial who liked watching Girls and wears button downs!!!!!!!
Millennial here. I never liked girls but whatever. What’s wrong with button downs? I’m genuinely curious…
Nothing. This poster is insane. They have been here for like an hour now (admittedly I have been on DCUM for an hour now too, so I am NOT shaming her for that) insulting people, calling them poor/fat/old/dated.
LOL! Coming from a supposed crew of moms (provided it's not just sockpuppets responding to each other) who have been on this thread for HOURS on end and have brought it to NINETY pages because of their inability to hear ANY criticism about MM? Do any of you have jobs?
DP. I’ve been here on and off this AM as I get ready for work - running late bc I’m not feeling well…
Serious question for you based on your writing style. Do you own a pit bull?
I think the lower economic poster who used the phrase "bit ching" unironically probably does And then got so mad that anyone would bring up wealth background...
OMG THAT WAS ME EARLIER!! You're still mad about that?! Because I wouldn't watch your dumb video because I said the lady was shrill? omfg lol I'm sorry that hurt your feelings.
Wait you're still here?! Girl! How long have you been hanging on this board arguing with people? OMG!!
DP Well...by that logic, that would mean you've also been on this board arguing with people.
I guess what's amazing to me is this was already going when I popped in and given the length of this thread it's clear this is not a one time thing. I dont know if this is truly a bunch of different users who just kind of regularly dogpile and gang up because they love MM, or it's just one crazy and kind of uneducated/poor SES sockpuppet talking to themselves... but it's really fascinating. I'm starting to think people just hang out here EVERY SINGLE day and now I'm wondering if we should like post this thread to TattleLife or something so those users can brigade right back and anger the Meghan Markle obsessives that seem to be in here. I've never seen a thread like this on DCUM before and it's grimly captivating
What is Tattle Life?
A gossip forum. They HATE MM and would have a field day with some of the posters here tbh
So are you like a regular poster there and just came here? Because you don't really fit in here and wanting to have an outside site brigade DCUM is kind of an ahole move. I'm not a saint and have been snarky on DCUM but I've never posted the website elsewhere to purposely get people to brigade it.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
Yes, I do get that for some people's style but Meghan's doesn't particularly read dated to me. Some other millennials' style does. I agree with the other poster, please give detailed examples of how to update and freshen the aesthetic of the show.
Yeah but that's what I'm trying to explain! You're a self admitted millennial and cant see the forest for the trees, lol. I did give some examples to the other poster but tbh it's not really my job to explain to middle-aged moms who think white skinny jeans and a chambray button down is totally chic about current fashion trends, lmao. You can always look up Vogue articles, use ChatGTP, or even open a dedicated thread here on DCUM if you truly want advice on updating your wardrobe (although this board skews Gen X so you might not get much help). Good luck!
Okay, first of all, the fact that you think people were asking for their own edification and not because you sounded ridiculous just blanket-stating that the show was dated. People were asking because they wanted you to show your work, not because they wanted your fashion advice lmfao.
Second of all, for someone claiming to be a fashion expert, there is a difference between chic and trendy. A button down and jeans is chic. Whatever flavor of the week the Gen z tiktok influencers are wearing is trendy.
The show *is* dated. The fact that that bothers a legion of self identified middle aged moms who are admitting that they developed their person style in the 2010s and havent updated it since the series finale of Girls doesn't change that fact, lmao.
A button down and jeans is no longer chic, not in the way most millennial women wear it. The fact that you cannot, cannot, CANNOT see this and are sooooo entrenched in the Isabel Marant aesthetic from 2010 is very, very telling about how out of touch you are with current fashions. Even the fact that you're so bothered by this discussion says that you know very well that your personal style stopped evolving a good decade back. And yes, you probably do look dated and old when you're out and about running errands, which is why I suspect you're so upset with the conversation.
Dp. Not sure what your point is here. I’m a millennial woman who didn’t like the show but her overall fashion is not really the issue, other than it being laughable that MM claims to cook in drapey all white clothes. And most millennial women I know don’t care about being trendy anymore. We’ve got way too much else to worry about between careers, husbands, kids and elderly parents. Not sure why you’re so obsessed with insulting people over something this silly.
It may not be the issue for you but it is for others, especially if she wants to attract a desirable younger demographic. I also dont hate MM, but was just sooooo struck by how out of date the whole thing seemed.
Yes, and we are saying she probably does not want to attract a younger demographic. MM is almost 45 years old. I don't think she's worried if a bunch of 19 year old tiktok "girlies" like her show.
Well she probably should, especially with how catastrophically unpopular she is with the GP. And relegating herself to the middle aged mom demo is pretty limiting, especially as time passes and that demo ages up with her.
But the type of show is inherently geared towards older audiences. Young women just aren't interested in learning how to decorate for kids' birthday parties.
Why can’t anyone do a practical yet aspirational cooking/home show? I’m sure there is one out there but I don’t know it. Jacques Pepin has a ‘fast food’ cook book that I like. Fast takes on elevated recipes. 20 something year olds don’t have time to make their own candles, nor do I (millennial) but 20 year dc and I would both happily watch a show that helped us make nice meals with short cuts like frozen veggies, canned blah blah. I don’t typically have time to go harvest my own honey when making a meal for the day.
Honestly someone should do that, targeted at college kids and recent graduates! I believe Daphne Oz tried (or maybe she wrote a book about it) back in the day. Though I feel like targeting yourself at the "youth" (I'm sure I'll be flamed by the troll for using a "dated" word in 3..2...) inherently does better in modern forms of media vs. longform like books or TV.
Ummmm AKSHUALLY it's dated to call kids "youth" that's how I know you're a millennial who liked watching Girls and wears button downs!!!!!!!
Millennial here. I never liked girls but whatever. What’s wrong with button downs? I’m genuinely curious…
Nothing. This poster is insane. They have been here for like an hour now (admittedly I have been on DCUM for an hour now too, so I am NOT shaming her for that) insulting people, calling them poor/fat/old/dated.
LOL! Coming from a supposed crew of moms (provided it's not just sockpuppets responding to each other) who have been on this thread for HOURS on end and have brought it to NINETY pages because of their inability to hear ANY criticism about MM? Do any of you have jobs?
DP. I’ve been here on and off this AM as I get ready for work - running late bc I’m not feeling well…
Serious question for you based on your writing style. Do you own a pit bull?
I think the lower economic poster who used the phrase "bit ching" unironically probably does And then got so mad that anyone would bring up wealth background...
OMG THAT WAS ME EARLIER!! You're still mad about that?! Because I wouldn't watch your dumb video because I said the lady was shrill? omfg lol I'm sorry that hurt your feelings.
Wait you're still here?! Girl! How long have you been hanging on this board arguing with people? OMG!!
DP Well...by that logic, that would mean you've also been on this board arguing with people.
I guess what's amazing to me is this was already going when I popped in and given the length of this thread it's clear this is not a one time thing. I dont know if this is truly a bunch of different users who just kind of regularly dogpile and gang up because they love MM, or it's just one crazy and kind of uneducated/poor SES sockpuppet talking to themselves... but it's really fascinating. I'm starting to think people just hang out here EVERY SINGLE day and now I'm wondering if we should like post this thread to TattleLife or something so those users can brigade right back and anger the Meghan Markle obsessives that seem to be in here. I've never seen a thread like this on DCUM before and it's grimly captivating
What is Tattle Life?
A gossip forum. They HATE MM and would have a field day with some of the posters here tbh
So are you like a regular poster there and just came here? Because you don't really fit in here and wanting to have an outside site brigade DCUM is kind of an ahole move. I'm not a saint and have been snarky on DCUM but I've never posted the website elsewhere to purposely get people to brigade it.
I come to DCUM from time to time and saw that this thread was super active and crazy but never expected anything like the posters on here tbh. It does seem like there's something weird going on- a bunch of pro-MM posters who kind of dogpile anyone with criticism and team up? Or some extremely bored person sockpuppeting? But yeah, DCUM threads get posted elsewhere all the time, it's really not a big deal. And it may do a lot to sort out the kind of unhinged craziness that has made this thread reach this point
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
OK, but I see Gen Z in the Metro wearing pants cuts and sweater styles that my mom wore in 1985. It absolutely floors me. It legitimately looks like they took one of my mom's outfits from the Sears Cheryl Tiegs catalogue.
I'm sure our resident Stacy London here will have an explanation shortly about how that's chic but Meghan's Cartier watch screams nouveau riche and millennial or some shit, idk.
Stacy London? Damn. Talk about dated references... you must be over 40.
DP Are you experiencing a midlife crisis? What is with the hyper fixation on things being dated?
I missed the memo where you can't even make an older reference lol.
I'm not, but you appear to be going through one whenever anyone points out (rightfully) that your clothing and references are dated. What's wrong with that? You're allowed to proudly walk around in your millennial page and have everyone able to pin your age, in the same way a 65 year old woman can waltz around in their QVC comfort sweatshirt and not be surprised that people pin her for being a grandma. You speak and dress with a very distinctive time/era/middle aged vibe. What's the issue?
I think there is a lot more than a comfort sweatshirt that would pin someone as a grandma.
You’re hilariously fixated on this. Are you one of those people who actually reads those ads that tell you things like stop carrying around a bag at a certain age and takes them to heart?
No, just someone who has a bare minimum ability to observe fashion trends and generational tendencies. That's why it's so amusing watching you crash out- you really thought there was nothing dated about your skinny jeans and ballet boots, and cannot stand to have someone point out that your style is passe now. Are you one of those people who genuinely believed that they could pass for ten years younger?
Writing all this and accusing someone else of crashing out is insaneeeeeeeee
It's the truth! Y'all wouldn't be going on and on and on and trying to defend yourselves and arguing that chambray is still cool for pages if you werent crashing out. That's what a crash out is, my love.
No one has argued that chambray was cool! You are the only one mentioning chambray shirts!
Yes someone was mad about chambray shirts being brought up, lol. I'm sure they thought they looked *very* hip and avant garde in their chambray
It matters where you are too. Chambray is preppy, timeless California casual.
it's really not. Chambray is super dated, especially in the styles that were popular for millennials.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
I think she'd really have to change the entire vibe- the "perfect instagram" look is now extremely out of date and cringe, which is why most GenZs prefer a somewhat chaotic looking photo dump. More color would be great, not filming in all white, beige kitchens. Not doing cutesy "twee" crafts like sticking stuff in mason jars or wicker baskets. If she was to experiment with more color, more boldness, more "out there" vibes then that would fit the zeitgeist a lot more. ATM, it's giving Chip and Joanna Gaines Modern Farmhouse 2016.
Agree to disagree. She is for sure a millennial aesthetically but I don't think it's that bad.
I mean, I'm sorry, but it is. You cannot tell me Meghan's show is aesthetically distinct from this:
I do, it's a subtle distinction but I don't think you'd understand so I don't feel like explaining.
It ain't subtle! The huge distinction is that Joanna Gaines created her brand on her own. Also, she wasn't gifted millions and isn't the kind of person to make an issue on her show about using an entitled last name. Viewers (even uneducated ones) are quite good at sniffing out fake.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
OK, but I see Gen Z in the Metro wearing pants cuts and sweater styles that my mom wore in 1985. It absolutely floors me. It legitimately looks like they took one of my mom's outfits from the Sears Cheryl Tiegs catalogue.
I'm sure our resident Stacy London here will have an explanation shortly about how that's chic but Meghan's Cartier watch screams nouveau riche and millennial or some shit, idk.
Stacy London? Damn. Talk about dated references... you must be over 40.
DP Are you experiencing a midlife crisis? What is with the hyper fixation on things being dated?
I missed the memo where you can't even make an older reference lol.
I'm not, but you appear to be going through one whenever anyone points out (rightfully) that your clothing and references are dated. What's wrong with that? You're allowed to proudly walk around in your millennial page and have everyone able to pin your age, in the same way a 65 year old woman can waltz around in their QVC comfort sweatshirt and not be surprised that people pin her for being a grandma. You speak and dress with a very distinctive time/era/middle aged vibe. What's the issue?
I think there is a lot more than a comfort sweatshirt that would pin someone as a grandma.
You’re hilariously fixated on this. Are you one of those people who actually reads those ads that tell you things like stop carrying around a bag at a certain age and takes them to heart?
No, just someone who has a bare minimum ability to observe fashion trends and generational tendencies. That's why it's so amusing watching you crash out- you really thought there was nothing dated about your skinny jeans and ballet boots, and cannot stand to have someone point out that your style is passe now. Are you one of those people who genuinely believed that they could pass for ten years younger?
Writing all this and accusing someone else of crashing out is insaneeeeeeeee
It's the truth! Y'all wouldn't be going on and on and on and trying to defend yourselves and arguing that chambray is still cool for pages if you werent crashing out. That's what a crash out is, my love.
No one has argued that chambray was cool! You are the only one mentioning chambray shirts!
Yes someone was mad about chambray shirts being brought up, lol. I'm sure they thought they looked *very* hip and avant garde in their chambray
It matters where you are too. Chambray is preppy, timeless California casual.
it's really not. Chambray is super dated, especially in the styles that were popular for millennials.
You’re pointing out one particular style. But that doesn’t mean you understand fashion. Not trends. Fashion.
Ooh you are the "fashion expert." Please tell us all of your knowledge from your years as a designer. Understanding fashion is so important and critical.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
I think she'd really have to change the entire vibe- the "perfect instagram" look is now extremely out of date and cringe, which is why most GenZs prefer a somewhat chaotic looking photo dump. More color would be great, not filming in all white, beige kitchens. Not doing cutesy "twee" crafts like sticking stuff in mason jars or wicker baskets. If she was to experiment with more color, more boldness, more "out there" vibes then that would fit the zeitgeist a lot more. ATM, it's giving Chip and Joanna Gaines Modern Farmhouse 2016.
Agree to disagree. She is for sure a millennial aesthetically but I don't think it's that bad.
I mean, I'm sorry, but it is. You cannot tell me Meghan's show is aesthetically distinct from this:
I do, it's a subtle distinction but I don't think you'd understand so I don't feel like explaining.
It ain't subtle! The huge distinction is that Joanna Gaines created her brand on her own. Also, she wasn't gifted millions and isn't the kind of person to make an issue on her show about using an entitled last name. Viewers (even uneducated ones) are quite good at sniffing out fake.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
OK, but I see Gen Z in the Metro wearing pants cuts and sweater styles that my mom wore in 1985. It absolutely floors me. It legitimately looks like they took one of my mom's outfits from the Sears Cheryl Tiegs catalogue.
I'm sure our resident Stacy London here will have an explanation shortly about how that's chic but Meghan's Cartier watch screams nouveau riche and millennial or some shit, idk.
Stacy London? Damn. Talk about dated references... you must be over 40.
DP Are you experiencing a midlife crisis? What is with the hyper fixation on things being dated?
I missed the memo where you can't even make an older reference lol.
I'm not, but you appear to be going through one whenever anyone points out (rightfully) that your clothing and references are dated. What's wrong with that? You're allowed to proudly walk around in your millennial page and have everyone able to pin your age, in the same way a 65 year old woman can waltz around in their QVC comfort sweatshirt and not be surprised that people pin her for being a grandma. You speak and dress with a very distinctive time/era/middle aged vibe. What's the issue?
I think there is a lot more than a comfort sweatshirt that would pin someone as a grandma.
You’re hilariously fixated on this. Are you one of those people who actually reads those ads that tell you things like stop carrying around a bag at a certain age and takes them to heart?
No, just someone who has a bare minimum ability to observe fashion trends and generational tendencies. That's why it's so amusing watching you crash out- you really thought there was nothing dated about your skinny jeans and ballet boots, and cannot stand to have someone point out that your style is passe now. Are you one of those people who genuinely believed that they could pass for ten years younger?
Writing all this and accusing someone else of crashing out is insaneeeeeeeee
It's the truth! Y'all wouldn't be going on and on and on and trying to defend yourselves and arguing that chambray is still cool for pages if you werent crashing out. That's what a crash out is, my love.
No one has argued that chambray was cool! You are the only one mentioning chambray shirts!
Yes someone was mad about chambray shirts being brought up, lol. I'm sure they thought they looked *very* hip and avant garde in their chambray
It matters where you are too. Chambray is preppy, timeless California casual.
it's really not. Chambray is super dated, especially in the styles that were popular for millennials.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
Yes, I do get that for some people's style but Meghan's doesn't particularly read dated to me. Some other millennials' style does. I agree with the other poster, please give detailed examples of how to update and freshen the aesthetic of the show.
Yeah but that's what I'm trying to explain! You're a self admitted millennial and cant see the forest for the trees, lol. I did give some examples to the other poster but tbh it's not really my job to explain to middle-aged moms who think white skinny jeans and a chambray button down is totally chic about current fashion trends, lmao. You can always look up Vogue articles, use ChatGTP, or even open a dedicated thread here on DCUM if you truly want advice on updating your wardrobe (although this board skews Gen X so you might not get much help). Good luck!
Okay, first of all, the fact that you think people were asking for their own edification and not because you sounded ridiculous just blanket-stating that the show was dated. People were asking because they wanted you to show your work, not because they wanted your fashion advice lmfao.
Second of all, for someone claiming to be a fashion expert, there is a difference between chic and trendy. A button down and jeans is chic. Whatever flavor of the week the Gen z tiktok influencers are wearing is trendy.
The show *is* dated. The fact that that bothers a legion of self identified middle aged moms who are admitting that they developed their person style in the 2010s and havent updated it since the series finale of Girls doesn't change that fact, lmao.
A button down and jeans is no longer chic, not in the way most millennial women wear it. The fact that you cannot, cannot, CANNOT see this and are sooooo entrenched in the Isabel Marant aesthetic from 2010 is very, very telling about how out of touch you are with current fashions. Even the fact that you're so bothered by this discussion says that you know very well that your personal style stopped evolving a good decade back. And yes, you probably do look dated and old when you're out and about running errands, which is why I suspect you're so upset with the conversation.
Dp. Not sure what your point is here. I’m a millennial woman who didn’t like the show but her overall fashion is not really the issue, other than it being laughable that MM claims to cook in drapey all white clothes. And most millennial women I know don’t care about being trendy anymore. We’ve got way too much else to worry about between careers, husbands, kids and elderly parents. Not sure why you’re so obsessed with insulting people over something this silly.
It may not be the issue for you but it is for others, especially if she wants to attract a desirable younger demographic. I also dont hate MM, but was just sooooo struck by how out of date the whole thing seemed.
Yes, and we are saying she probably does not want to attract a younger demographic. MM is almost 45 years old. I don't think she's worried if a bunch of 19 year old tiktok "girlies" like her show.
Well she probably should, especially with how catastrophically unpopular she is with the GP. And relegating herself to the middle aged mom demo is pretty limiting, especially as time passes and that demo ages up with her.
But the type of show is inherently geared towards older audiences. Young women just aren't interested in learning how to decorate for kids' birthday parties.
Why can’t anyone do a practical yet aspirational cooking/home show? I’m sure there is one out there but I don’t know it. Jacques Pepin has a ‘fast food’ cook book that I like. Fast takes on elevated recipes. 20 something year olds don’t have time to make their own candles, nor do I (millennial) but 20 year dc and I would both happily watch a show that helped us make nice meals with short cuts like frozen veggies, canned blah blah. I don’t typically have time to go harvest my own honey when making a meal for the day.
Honestly someone should do that, targeted at college kids and recent graduates! I believe Daphne Oz tried (or maybe she wrote a book about it) back in the day. Though I feel like targeting yourself at the "youth" (I'm sure I'll be flamed by the troll for using a "dated" word in 3..2...) inherently does better in modern forms of media vs. longform like books or TV.
Ummmm AKSHUALLY it's dated to call kids "youth" that's how I know you're a millennial who liked watching Girls and wears button downs!!!!!!!
Millennial here. I never liked girls but whatever. What’s wrong with button downs? I’m genuinely curious…
Nothing. This poster is insane. They have been here for like an hour now (admittedly I have been on DCUM for an hour now too, so I am NOT shaming her for that) insulting people, calling them poor/fat/old/dated.
LOL! Coming from a supposed crew of moms (provided it's not just sockpuppets responding to each other) who have been on this thread for HOURS on end and have brought it to NINETY pages because of their inability to hear ANY criticism about MM? Do any of you have jobs?
DP. I’ve been here on and off this AM as I get ready for work - running late bc I’m not feeling well…
Serious question for you based on your writing style. Do you own a pit bull?
I think the lower economic poster who used the phrase "bit ching" unironically probably does And then got so mad that anyone would bring up wealth background...
OMG THAT WAS ME EARLIER!! You're still mad about that?! Because I wouldn't watch your dumb video because I said the lady was shrill? omfg lol I'm sorry that hurt your feelings.
Wait you're still here?! Girl! How long have you been hanging on this board arguing with people? OMG!!
DP Well...by that logic, that would mean you've also been on this board arguing with people.
I guess what's amazing to me is this was already going when I popped in and given the length of this thread it's clear this is not a one time thing. I dont know if this is truly a bunch of different users who just kind of regularly dogpile and gang up because they love MM, or it's just one crazy and kind of uneducated/poor SES sockpuppet talking to themselves... but it's really fascinating. I'm starting to think people just hang out here EVERY SINGLE day and now I'm wondering if we should like post this thread to TattleLife or something so those users can brigade right back and anger the Meghan Markle obsessives that seem to be in here. I've never seen a thread like this on DCUM before and it's grimly captivating
What is Tattle Life?
A gossip forum. They HATE MM and would have a field day with some of the posters here tbh
So are you like a regular poster there and just came here? Because you don't really fit in here and wanting to have an outside site brigade DCUM is kind of an ahole move. I'm not a saint and have been snarky on DCUM but I've never posted the website elsewhere to purposely get people to brigade it.
I come to DCUM from time to time and saw that this thread was super active and crazy but never expected anything like the posters on here tbh. It does seem like there's something weird going on- a bunch of pro-MM posters who kind of dogpile anyone with criticism and team up? Or some extremely bored person sockpuppeting? But yeah, DCUM threads get posted elsewhere all the time, it's really not a big deal. And it may do a lot to sort out the kind of unhinged craziness that has made this thread reach this point
To be clear, you think that people here have no life and yet you are a poster from another board who wants to have the site brigaded to "sort out" the fact that people here like MM?
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else find Meghan’s aesthetic incredibly dated? Maybe because I spend time on TikTok and gen Zs are always making fun of millennial beige and the kind of twee “bundles of flowers in mason jars” look that was big in the 2010s. But I just kept thinking the whole thing was such a blast from the past- from the overly curated, instagram perfect styling to the empty platitudes about “we all can come together with love” or “wine night!”… it really seemed like something straight out of 2016. As a fellow millennial close in age to Meghan it was actually kind of depressing
The beige thing goes way back to her influence by Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who died in a plane crash with JFk Jr in 1998. Bessette Kennedy was known for wearing Calvin Klein inspired outfits in beige and black Her style was very influential . There are photos of Meghan doing exact copies of the outfits.
It has been a hallmark of elder millennial style, the pared down, all white/brown/beige monochromatic thing, matching the similar all white/brown/beige kitchen. And what once seemed kind of chic, new and fresh, now looks incredibly dated and like a throwback to the mid 2010s, which was Meghan's heyday. Anyone who stays on top of trends knows that this kind of thing looks very out of date now and Gen Zs are always making fun of these stylistic choices. And for good reason- once you kind of pan out you realize how kind of ridiculous and overly stylized/ self conscious it often looks.
I don't personally think her style is dated. It reads more quiet luxury than sad beige.
With that being said, as a fellow millennial, I can appreciate Meghan sticking to her style rather than changing. As you get older you kind of learn what works for you and gain confidence to avoid overhauling your style every time trends change. She's in ankle jeans and a button down, it's not like she's in a J. Crew bubble necklace or something extremely dated.
I also do think this is one of those areas where she would never win and if she tried something excessively trendy she'd be made fun of for trying too hard.
It is very dated though, and you being a millennial may blind you to that fact since it's a style you still enjoy. In the way that plenty of boomers will still walk around thinking their outfits from the 80s or 90s are really cool, when it dates them and gives away their "era".
Nothing wrong with having a personal style. But you can still update things, keep them fresh, and move with the times- or hire people to style you if you cant figure it out yourself. ESPECIALLY if youre going to position yourself as some kind of leader in the aspirational lifestyle industry. Most people dont want to be walking around wearing a style that is a good decade or so passe.
Please give detailed examples of how to “update” and “freshen” the aesthetic of the show. I would love to hear what is considered updated.
The show to me reads as blandly pleasant. It’s the entire curated concept of a lifestyle show that seems dated more so than the details like clothing.
Seriously. I don't understand how straight cut jeans and a button down are "dated." She just dresses like a normal rich mom, which she is. It's millennial because millennials are moms now.
LOL. That's because you are a millennial! Dont you get that? In the same way a boomer isnt going to understand how their look is dated either. There are plenty of hip looking rich moms, not everyone is wearing what was en vogue in 2015.
Yes, I do get that for some people's style but Meghan's doesn't particularly read dated to me. Some other millennials' style does. I agree with the other poster, please give detailed examples of how to update and freshen the aesthetic of the show.
Yeah but that's what I'm trying to explain! You're a self admitted millennial and cant see the forest for the trees, lol. I did give some examples to the other poster but tbh it's not really my job to explain to middle-aged moms who think white skinny jeans and a chambray button down is totally chic about current fashion trends, lmao. You can always look up Vogue articles, use ChatGTP, or even open a dedicated thread here on DCUM if you truly want advice on updating your wardrobe (although this board skews Gen X so you might not get much help). Good luck!
Okay, first of all, the fact that you think people were asking for their own edification and not because you sounded ridiculous just blanket-stating that the show was dated. People were asking because they wanted you to show your work, not because they wanted your fashion advice lmfao.
Second of all, for someone claiming to be a fashion expert, there is a difference between chic and trendy. A button down and jeans is chic. Whatever flavor of the week the Gen z tiktok influencers are wearing is trendy.
The show *is* dated. The fact that that bothers a legion of self identified middle aged moms who are admitting that they developed their person style in the 2010s and havent updated it since the series finale of Girls doesn't change that fact, lmao.
A button down and jeans is no longer chic, not in the way most millennial women wear it. The fact that you cannot, cannot, CANNOT see this and are sooooo entrenched in the Isabel Marant aesthetic from 2010 is very, very telling about how out of touch you are with current fashions. Even the fact that you're so bothered by this discussion says that you know very well that your personal style stopped evolving a good decade back. And yes, you probably do look dated and old when you're out and about running errands, which is why I suspect you're so upset with the conversation.
Dp. Not sure what your point is here. I’m a millennial woman who didn’t like the show but her overall fashion is not really the issue, other than it being laughable that MM claims to cook in drapey all white clothes. And most millennial women I know don’t care about being trendy anymore. We’ve got way too much else to worry about between careers, husbands, kids and elderly parents. Not sure why you’re so obsessed with insulting people over something this silly.
It may not be the issue for you but it is for others, especially if she wants to attract a desirable younger demographic. I also dont hate MM, but was just sooooo struck by how out of date the whole thing seemed.
Yes, and we are saying she probably does not want to attract a younger demographic. MM is almost 45 years old. I don't think she's worried if a bunch of 19 year old tiktok "girlies" like her show.
Well she probably should, especially with how catastrophically unpopular she is with the GP. And relegating herself to the middle aged mom demo is pretty limiting, especially as time passes and that demo ages up with her.
But the type of show is inherently geared towards older audiences. Young women just aren't interested in learning how to decorate for kids' birthday parties.
Why can’t anyone do a practical yet aspirational cooking/home show? I’m sure there is one out there but I don’t know it. Jacques Pepin has a ‘fast food’ cook book that I like. Fast takes on elevated recipes. 20 something year olds don’t have time to make their own candles, nor do I (millennial) but 20 year dc and I would both happily watch a show that helped us make nice meals with short cuts like frozen veggies, canned blah blah. I don’t typically have time to go harvest my own honey when making a meal for the day.
Honestly someone should do that, targeted at college kids and recent graduates! I believe Daphne Oz tried (or maybe she wrote a book about it) back in the day. Though I feel like targeting yourself at the "youth" (I'm sure I'll be flamed by the troll for using a "dated" word in 3..2...) inherently does better in modern forms of media vs. longform like books or TV.
Ummmm AKSHUALLY it's dated to call kids "youth" that's how I know you're a millennial who liked watching Girls and wears button downs!!!!!!!
Millennial here. I never liked girls but whatever. What’s wrong with button downs? I’m genuinely curious…
Nothing. This poster is insane. They have been here for like an hour now (admittedly I have been on DCUM for an hour now too, so I am NOT shaming her for that) insulting people, calling them poor/fat/old/dated.
LOL! Coming from a supposed crew of moms (provided it's not just sockpuppets responding to each other) who have been on this thread for HOURS on end and have brought it to NINETY pages because of their inability to hear ANY criticism about MM? Do any of you have jobs?
DP. I’ve been here on and off this AM as I get ready for work - running late bc I’m not feeling well…
Serious question for you based on your writing style. Do you own a pit bull?
I think the lower economic poster who used the phrase "bit ching" unironically probably does And then got so mad that anyone would bring up wealth background...
OMG THAT WAS ME EARLIER!! You're still mad about that?! Because I wouldn't watch your dumb video because I said the lady was shrill? omfg lol I'm sorry that hurt your feelings.
Wait you're still here?! Girl! How long have you been hanging on this board arguing with people? OMG!!
DP Well...by that logic, that would mean you've also been on this board arguing with people.
I guess what's amazing to me is this was already going when I popped in and given the length of this thread it's clear this is not a one time thing. I dont know if this is truly a bunch of different users who just kind of regularly dogpile and gang up because they love MM, or it's just one crazy and kind of uneducated/poor SES sockpuppet talking to themselves... but it's really fascinating. I'm starting to think people just hang out here EVERY SINGLE day and now I'm wondering if we should like post this thread to TattleLife or something so those users can brigade right back and anger the Meghan Markle obsessives that seem to be in here. I've never seen a thread like this on DCUM before and it's grimly captivating
What is Tattle Life?
A gossip forum. They HATE MM and would have a field day with some of the posters here tbh
So are you like a regular poster there and just came here? Because you don't really fit in here and wanting to have an outside site brigade DCUM is kind of an ahole move. I'm not a saint and have been snarky on DCUM but I've never posted the website elsewhere to purposely get people to brigade it.
I come to DCUM from time to time and saw that this thread was super active and crazy but never expected anything like the posters on here tbh. It does seem like there's something weird going on- a bunch of pro-MM posters who kind of dogpile anyone with criticism and team up? Or some extremely bored person sockpuppeting? But yeah, DCUM threads get posted elsewhere all the time, it's really not a big deal. And it may do a lot to sort out the kind of unhinged craziness that has made this thread reach this point
To be clear, you think that people here have no life and yet you are a poster from another board who wants to have the site brigaded to "sort out" the fact that people here like MM?
Yeah, there's a real difference between casually posting here in various forums ONCE IN A WHILE and whatever bizarro world squatting that appears to be happening from a very small handful of pro-MM posters that has resulted in this thread reaching 90 pages in a matter of days. Very strange and odd behavior. And maybe it does deserve a counterpoint? What's wrong with that?
What is her name then? It's not Markle, she gave it up when she got married. Is it Mountbatten-Windsor? Like what is her legal name?
FTR, in the US she could legally just change her name to Meghan Sussex and that would be her legal name and she could put it on her drivers license, passport, etc. I don't know how this works in the UK, but in the US you can choose your name and all you have to do is fill out paperwork. For this reason, I don't get why people are flipping out over whether her name is "really" Sussex or not.
In my social circle, you call people what they want to be called and you don't give them a hard time about it. If a friend of mine said "You keep using my maiden name but my last name is actually [X] now, and it's important to me because I really like having a family name that I share with my kids," my response would be "Oh I'm so sorry, I didn't realize. Thank you for telling me and I'll use that from now on." It would not be to angrily demand she produce identification and prove that it's her name. Who cares? This is America, you can be who you want.
What is her name then? It's not Markle, she gave it up when she got married. Is it Mountbatten-Windsor? Like what is her legal name?
FTR, in the US she could legally just change her name to Meghan Sussex and that would be her legal name and she could put it on her drivers license, passport, etc. I don't know how this works in the UK, but in the US you can choose your name and all you have to do is fill out paperwork. For this reason, I don't get why people are flipping out over whether her name is "really" Sussex or not.
In my social circle, you call people what they want to be called and you don't give them a hard time about it. If a friend of mine said "You keep using my maiden name but my last name is actually [X] now, and it's important to me because I really like having a family name that I share with my kids," my response would be "Oh I'm so sorry, I didn't realize. Thank you for telling me and I'll use that from now on." It would not be to angrily demand she produce identification and prove that it's her name. Who cares? This is America, you can be who you want.
Her legal name is Markle, and that is also the last name of the children.
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