Why do kids seem to be driving later than they used to "back in the day"?

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Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas.

I don’t know 1 teen who bought their own car in 1960, 70, 90 or now.

They drive their parents old car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas.

So the parents are paying for it. Got it. Maybe step out of your bubble for a second and realize that a car isn’t the only expense most teens have that they need to pay for with money from their job. And you can check the cost of a used car in 2021–it is way more expensive than it was in 1970.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas. ]



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/01/used-car-high-prices-may-finally-be-dropping.html

Average used car is $25k this year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas.

So the parents are paying for it. Got it. Maybe step out of your bubble for a second and realize that a car isn’t the only expense most teens have that they need to pay for with money from their job. And you can check the cost of a used car in 2021–it is way more expensive than it was in 1970.

Wait, not the PP, but all of my kids have savings accounts. I have never contributed 1 cent to those accounts.

Also, my junior college student got a 2007 Hyndai Elentra with 60K miles on it for $2500. It was/is in great condition. Paid in full with HIS money he has earned through the saving account I started up for him. His earning from celebrations, birthdays, gift cards I purchased from him (he wanted cash to save) and his multiple jobs he has had since he was a freshman. Most of them as a lifeguard, referee, and counselor.

It is completely doable and many teens in this country do just that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas.

I don’t know 1 teen who bought their own car in 1960, 70, 90 or now.

They drive their parents old car.

I bought my own car the summer before my senior year. A used Toyota Celica with flip up headlights for $1050

I barely knew any kids that did not buy their own car. But I lived in the suburbs of Philadelphia. Not here. So maybe that is a regional thing? Working PT jobs throughout high school and getting wheels of your own was a right of passage. Most were old beat up cars and you paid liability only insurance.

Our high school has a student's lot and we decorated our parking spaces. It was a big deal. And no, we were not in a rich area. True blue collar middle class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas.

So the parents are paying for it. Got it. Maybe step out of your bubble for a second and realize that a car isn’t the only expense most teens have that they need to pay for with money from their job. And you can check the cost of a used car in 2021–it is way more expensive than it was in 1970.

Wait, not the PP, but all of my kids have savings accounts. I have never contributed 1 cent to those accounts.

Also, my junior college student got a 2007 Hyndai Elentra with 60K miles on it for $2500. It was/is in great condition. Paid in full with HIS money he has earned through the saving account I started up for him. His earning from celebrations, birthdays, gift cards I purchased from him (he wanted cash to save) and his multiple jobs he has had since he was a freshman. Most of them as a lifeguard, referee, and counselor.

It is completely doable and many teens in this country do just that.

And many teens in this country run up car and student debt. Many teens have to save money for their college tuition, books, etc while still in high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen

There is no shock that parents cater to their kid's needs and have made lazy entitled kids.

Why is this even an argument. Getting a license takes work that most kids do not want because for them, it is still okay to have Mommy drive you to school as a senior in high school.

Who wants to buy a car as a senior in high school? Seriously, how does a high school senior afford a used car in 2021?

Just curious how did seniors in 1970 afford a car? How about 1990? 2010?

It is called a JOB, which all high school kids have, except for the very privileged.

It is called a savings account from birth.

I am scared you even asked this question.


I did the same thing my parents did. I will pay for half the car and half the repairs if needed. The teen pays for the insurance and gas.

I don’t know 1 teen who bought their own car in 1960, 70, 90 or now.

They drive their parents old car.

I bought my own car the summer before my senior year. A used Toyota Celica with flip up headlights for $1050

I barely knew any kids that did not buy their own car. But I lived in the suburbs of Philadelphia. Not here. So maybe that is a regional thing? Working PT jobs throughout high school and getting wheels of your own was a right of passage. Most were old beat up cars and you paid liability only insurance.

Our high school has a student's lot and we decorated our parking spaces. It was a big deal. And no, we were not in a rich area. True blue collar middle class.

College tuition was cheap back then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are infantilized now and 16 is about what 20 was for us.

+100

THIS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are infantilized now and 16 is about what 20 was for us.

+100

THIS

COL has gone up dramatically.

[Anonymous]

I have to disagree with you. If anything, I think kids now a days grow up even faster than we did.

[Anonymous]

I forced or strongly encouraged mine to get their license as soon as possible. While they were still young in HS and under my control. I think it is easier fir younger people to pick up the skills and get them embedded when they are still teens.
Teaching them around DCUM is nerve wracking but at least you still have some control. Learning later I feared maybe they would hit the freeway without a clue how dangerous that can be.
Also I see these kids who are 19 or 20 be so embarrassed that they put it off and put it off. No parent handy to say take the car and practice. It’s like they outgrew the parents but didn’t get the skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS is 16 and it definitely takes more time and effort to get your license now. When I was 16, you could take driver's ed at age 15 and walk into the DMV on your 16th birthday to get your license. Now, my son needs to drive for something like 60 hrs with me. The earliest you can get a license is 16 and a half in MD. He's not in a big hurry because he knows he won't be getting his own car.

I remember that. Just walk in with some papers and done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's perfect world would be a car be can get into, tell it where he wants to go, and then sit back and scroll through social media while the car drives him where he wants to go. And I think he is not alone. This generation is ripe for self-driving cars.

Not my kids, but then again I didn't raise them to be like this either. Both of my teens got their licenses first day they could. I still limit screen time on their electronics, but I never limit face to face time, never limit driving, and always encourage independency.

The bolded is flat-out contradictory.

Anyhow, I think what you meant to say is that you are a control freak.

A control freak? You a lazy ass mom setting zero boundaries and letting your kid be helpless. Cool mom.

Fascinating. Totally fine with mommy actively monitoring the electronics of a 17-year-old, and forcing kids who don't want to drive into the DMV, but claims that is "having boundaries." Such a weird opposite-to-reality world. Obviously in the real world the mommy who controls the electronics of a kid who will be a legal adult in 1-2 years and the one who doesn't let kids take responsibility for their own decisions re driving is the one teaching helplessness, but it's wild to see your cognitive dissonance.

Not the PP, but I am curious. You have zero restrictions on your teen's phones. Like as soon as they get a phone, they can have it 24/7, by their bedside, any app, any website, any social media they want. You don't monitor it at all.

Because the PP only said they limit how much they can have their phones which by my common sense means they set up downtime and/or the amount they can use apps. I was under the impression most parents did this. At least in my circle they do. I couldn't imagine just handing a phone to a child with unlimited use. Once they pay for it, maybe.

We are talking about 16 and 17-year-olds, not 12-year-olds. People who are nearly full legal adults, who can be drafted in a few months. You really think mommy should be closely monitoring their electronics at that age? Spying on their texts? Hovering over their apps?

Of course maybe PP locks her teen down so tightly she is handing him a phone for the first time at age 16, in which case I guess it makes perverse sense that she's monitoring her teen's use so tightly a year later. But that's terrible, messed up parenting.