NW Shootings

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.


Without taking issue with defunding cops as a policy goal, this is almost definitely not true for the mostly white residents of Friendship Heights, who may as well be invisible to the police.


They are likely to be victims of neither. That's why they have the luxury of advocating for defunding police. People who actually live in higher crime areas know how much worse it would get without a real police presence.


Then who is calling for defunding police at all the BLM marches/protests?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.


Without taking issue with defunding cops as a policy goal, this is almost definitely not true for the mostly white residents of Friendship Heights, who may as well be invisible to the police.


They are likely to be victims of neither. That's why they have the luxury of advocating for defunding police. People who actually live in higher crime areas know how much worse it would get without a real police presence.


Then who is calling for defunding police at all the BLM marches/protests?


In many cases white woke folk or younger, often middle class or wealthier minorities. You generally aren't seeing the grandma who lives in the rough neighborhood who knows that havoc crime can cause talk about defunding the police.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.


Without taking issue with defunding cops as a policy goal, this is almost definitely not true for the mostly white residents of Friendship Heights, who may as well be invisible to the police.


They are likely to be victims of neither. That's why they have the luxury of advocating for defunding police. People who actually live in higher crime areas know how much worse it would get without a real police presence.
Look, I live in a high crime area and I hear gun shots and some of us call 911 and the police arrive quickly.....AFTER THE SHOOTING. Doesn't help much. We need more violence interrupters and social services that make it in people's interest not to get revenge using guns.

You wanna put a cop on every corner 24 hours a day observing the neighborhood? Sure, maybe that would stop the violence but it would be prohibitively expensive. Why not spend that money on things that address the problems and keep them from escalating into shooting? Because the cops aren't there for the shooting. While I have respect for many of them, the truth is that they come afterwards and put up yellow tape and try to find out who did it. They don't stop anything at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.


Without taking issue with defunding cops as a policy goal, this is almost definitely not true for the mostly white residents of Friendship Heights, who may as well be invisible to the police.


They are likely to be victims of neither. That's why they have the luxury of advocating for defunding police. People who actually live in higher crime areas know how much worse it would get without a real police presence.
Look, I live in a high crime area and I hear gun shots and some of us call 911 and the police arrive quickly.....AFTER THE SHOOTING. Doesn't help much. We need more violence interrupters and social services that make it in people's interest not to get revenge using guns.

You wanna put a cop on every corner 24 hours a day observing the neighborhood? Sure, maybe that would stop the violence but it would be prohibitively expensive. Why not spend that money on things that address the problems and keep them from escalating into shooting? Because the cops aren't there for the shooting. While I have respect for many of them, the truth is that they come afterwards and put up yellow tape and try to find out who did it. They don't stop anything at all.


Because they don't work. And there is a lot of middle ground between a cop on every corner and the current level of disengagement (never mind what some advocate for). And cops are only one piece of the puzzle. if you don't actually prosecute people, no matter how effective the cops are, nothing will come of it.
Anonymous
Where are we on any of these three investigations? The Shell station murder was just a few blocks from the Mary Cheh car theft. It reminds me that the police were promising information about the Shell station murder a couple of months ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Where are we on any of these three investigations? The Shell station murder was just a few blocks from the Mary Cheh car theft. It reminds me that the police were promising information about the Shell station murder a couple of months ago.


Let's say his name, of this Nigerian exchange student beginning his bright future in America:

"The young man murdered at the Shell station in upper NW DC this morning is Alexander Nwogu, 23, a cum laude graduate just 5 months ago from Virginia Tech. He’d just gotten a job at Ernst and Young."
Anonymous
You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.
Anonymous


https://guardian.ng/news/nigerian-murdered-in-uss-shell-facility-five-months-after-graduating/

Alexander Nwogu, 23, had just been hired as a tech consultant with Ernst and Young before he was murdered on Monday at the Shell gas station in the 4900 block of Connecticut Avenue, according to the Metropolitan Police Department.

A police report said Nwogu suffered blunt trauma to the back of his head and a single gunshot wound to the middle of his back.

According to Virginia Tech, Nwogu graduated in May with a bachelor of science in Industrial and Systems Engineering degree.

“It is a tragic loss of a very promising life,” said Charlie Klauer, an associate professor who advised Nwogu on his senior project in the Department of Industrial and Systems Engineering.



“I would say that he was a perfect blend of studiousness, seriousness and fun. He knew what he wanted and he was going to go after it and he had direction, for sure. But he also was lighthearted and could be very funny.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.


I'm making this about him. This could be any of our children, pumping gas. Like the other children shot and injured or killed in DC this year. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the fact that he was a guest in our country makes him especially deserving of hospitality and protection. This is a selfish and heinous crime against an innocent and promising young man, his family and our DC family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.


I'm making this about him. This could be any of our children, pumping gas. Like the other children shot and injured or killed in DC this year. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the fact that he was a guest in our country makes him especially deserving of hospitality and protection. This is a selfish and heinous crime against an innocent and promising young man, his family and our DC family.


This is a tragedy but why would he deserve more ‘protection’ than any other person? Everyone deserves to live their life free from violence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.


I'm making this about him. This could be any of our children, pumping gas. Like the other children shot and injured or killed in DC this year. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the fact that he was a guest in our country makes him especially deserving of hospitality and protection. This is a selfish and heinous crime against an innocent and promising young man, his family and our DC family.


This is a tragedy but why would he deserve more ‘protection’ than any other person? Everyone deserves to live their life free from violence.


I'm not going to quibble the above--it's just an emotion I feel regarding the circumstances of what happened. His parents sent him here to be educated, entrusted us/our country with him. He was our guest. It makes me feel horrible to think of this befalling a guest in a place they should feel totally safe--a well lit gas station on a major avenue in our city, the nation's capitol. If we do want to discuss words, I think we need a different word than tragedy? Tragedy, in the Greek sense, connotes inevitability and the fates . This was a heinous crime and an active choice on the part of the perpetrator.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.


I'm making this about him. This could be any of our children, pumping gas. Like the other children shot and injured or killed in DC this year. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the fact that he was a guest in our country makes him especially deserving of hospitality and protection. This is a selfish and heinous crime against an innocent and promising young man, his family and our DC family.


This is a tragedy but why would he deserve more ‘protection’ than any other person? Everyone deserves to live their life free from violence.


I'm not going to quibble the above--it's just an emotion I feel regarding the circumstances of what happened. His parents sent him here to be educated, entrusted us/our country with him. He was our guest. It makes me feel horrible to think of this befalling a guest in a place they should feel totally safe--a well lit gas station on a major avenue in our city, the nation's capitol. If we do want to discuss words, I think we need a different word than tragedy? Tragedy, in the Greek sense, connotes inevitability and the fates . This was a heinous crime and an active choice on the part of the perpetrator.


Should the criminals ask citizenship of their victims? It is a sad story for the city. It is shameful that the leadership of the city let the criminals do whatever they want.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.


I'm making this about him. This could be any of our children, pumping gas. Like the other children shot and injured or killed in DC this year. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the fact that he was a guest in our country makes him especially deserving of hospitality and protection. This is a selfish and heinous crime against an innocent and promising young man, his family and our DC family.


This is a tragedy but why would he deserve more ‘protection’ than any other person? Everyone deserves to live their life free from violence.


I'm not going to quibble the above--it's just an emotion I feel regarding the circumstances of what happened. His parents sent him here to be educated, entrusted us/our country with him. He was our guest. It makes me feel horrible to think of this befalling a guest in a place they should feel totally safe--a well lit gas station on a major avenue in our city, the nation's capitol. If we do want to discuss words, I think we need a different word than tragedy? Tragedy, in the Greek sense, connotes inevitability and the fates . This was a heinous crime and an active choice on the part of the perpetrator.


Should the criminals ask citizenship of their victims? It is a sad story for the city. It is shameful that the leadership of the city let the criminals do whatever they want.



Of course not. I think you are missing my point. It is an emotional, not rational layer of response I feel to this murder.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.


I'm making this about him. This could be any of our children, pumping gas. Like the other children shot and injured or killed in DC this year. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the fact that he was a guest in our country makes him especially deserving of hospitality and protection. This is a selfish and heinous crime against an innocent and promising young man, his family and our DC family.


This is a tragedy but why would he deserve more ‘protection’ than any other person? Everyone deserves to live their life free from violence.


I'm not going to quibble the above--it's just an emotion I feel regarding the circumstances of what happened. His parents sent him here to be educated, entrusted us/our country with him. He was our guest. It makes me feel horrible to think of this befalling a guest in a place they should feel totally safe--a well lit gas station on a major avenue in our city, the nation's capitol. If we do want to discuss words, I think we need a different word than tragedy? Tragedy, in the Greek sense, connotes inevitability and the fates . This was a heinous crime and an active choice on the part of the perpetrator.


Should the criminals ask citizenship of their victims? It is a sad story for the city. It is shameful that the leadership of the city let the criminals do whatever they want.



Of course not. I think you are missing my point. It is an emotional, not rational layer of response I feel to this murder.


And I very much agree that the spike in crime and violence in DC has been overlooked in the very successful defund the police and sentence reduction movements that DC has undertaken with stripping 15 million from the police budget and passing "Allen's Law" this year. To not also acknowledge the rise in crime (some of it heinous) and propose additional resources and remedies is an insult to DC residents and visitors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have said his name. Do you have any information about Mr. Nwogu's murder or are you just making this about you.


I'm making this about him. This could be any of our children, pumping gas. Like the other children shot and injured or killed in DC this year. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the fact that he was a guest in our country makes him especially deserving of hospitality and protection. This is a selfish and heinous crime against an innocent and promising young man, his family and our DC family.


This is a tragedy but why would he deserve more ‘protection’ than any other person? Everyone deserves to live their life free from violence.


I'm not going to quibble the above--it's just an emotion I feel regarding the circumstances of what happened. His parents sent him here to be educated, entrusted us/our country with him. He was our guest. It makes me feel horrible to think of this befalling a guest in a place they should feel totally safe--a well lit gas station on a major avenue in our city, the nation's capitol. If we do want to discuss words, I think we need a different word than tragedy? Tragedy, in the Greek sense, connotes inevitability and the fates . This was a heinous crime and an active choice on the part of the perpetrator.


Should the criminals ask citizenship of their victims? It is a sad story for the city. It is shameful that the leadership of the city let the criminals do whatever they want.



Of course not. I think you are missing my point. It is an emotional, not rational layer of response I feel to this murder.


And I very much agree that the spike in crime and violence in DC has been overlooked in the very successful defund the police and sentence reduction movements that DC has undertaken with stripping 15 million from the police budget and passing "Allen's Law" this year. To not also acknowledge the rise in crime (some of it heinous) and propose additional resources and remedies is an insult to DC residents and visitors.


My fear is that this won't end well. Backlashes can be brutal. We have an opportunity for criminal justice reform. Don't waste it with your virtue signaling.
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