NW Shootings

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Anonymous wrote:There have been 10 deadly shootings in DC over the last week. Two men were killed today in Brookland (NE) at 2 PM - broad daylight.

People who bought in the District never expecting a downturn are going to have some tough decisions to make. It is not safe in the District right now.

It’s perfectly safe in most of the District, including in the neighborhoods where the shootings this thread was originally about occurred. A handful of shootings does not mean your life is in danger. (Signed, someone who lives a few blocks from the homicide location on Western and heard all the shots.)

You're seriously saying that a few homicides in your neighborhood is tolerable.

As someone who actually lives in a neighborhood that has had recent homicides, (one happened on my block) yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Obviously it would be better if they didn't happen, but it's a reality I can certainly tolerate. I don't associate with the types of people doing the shootings, I don't participate in the drug trade, I'm not part of a crew. My friends and neighbors nearby are not involved in violence in any way.

Sure, there's a tiny, tiny chance I could catch a stray bullet from a shooting unrelated to me or anyone I know, but because I understand probability and statistics I understand that that chance is so small that there is literally no point in thinking about it, much less being worried about it.

So yeah, while I find it unfortunate that knuckleheads nearby shoot each over over dumb reasons, I find it completely tolerable in the literal sense of "yes, this is something I can tolerate about living here."

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Priorities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Priorities

I feel safer with the road painted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There have been 10 deadly shootings in DC over the last week. Two men were killed today in Brookland (NE) at 2 PM - broad daylight.

People who bought in the District never expecting a downturn are going to have some tough decisions to make. It is not safe in the District right now.

It’s perfectly safe in most of the District, including in the neighborhoods where the shootings this thread was originally about occurred. A handful of shootings does not mean your life is in danger. (Signed, someone who lives a few blocks from the homicide location on Western and heard all the shots.)

You're seriously saying that a few homicides in your neighborhood is tolerable.

It’s not “tolerable” in the sense that I want it to happen; obviously, I don’t want anyone being killed anywhere. But there are far more homicides in many other neighborhoods in D.C., including the one I lived in before I moved here, and nearby street crime there had nothing to do with why I moved here.

It IS “tolerable” in the sense that I am certainly going to tolerate it — we are not moving away because of a few random shootings, nor are we otherwise changing anything about our lives. It doesn’t at all make me think the neighborhood is unsafe, because the neighborhood is, in reality, quite safe.

[Anonymous]

You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Priorities

I feel safer with the road painted.

I feel safer with elected officials who affirm the ideal that Black Lives Matter than I do with elected officials who really don’t care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.

This statement is just not supportable empirically. If you have some data to support it, please share. As a black person living in DC, I am more worried about random shooting than being assaulted by a Policeman. And I am more worried about my kids being caught in the crossfire than a policeman assaulting a ten year old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.

Without taking issue with defunding cops as a policy goal, this is almost definitely not true for the mostly white residents of Friendship Heights, who may as well be invisible to the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.

Not me.

Signed, rich white male.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like DC is headed back to the crack fueled days of the early 2000s. Already more shootings this year than in 2009, the year I moved here, and this year isn't even over yet. Sad!

“Oh dear (clutches pearls) not the crack fueled days of the early 2000s”
You sound stupid the true crack fueled days of DC were the 80’s long before you decided to stop by and gentrify.

Ah, the tyranny of low expectations shows up again. How dare you, gentrifier, demand accountability!?!

I don't know about all that but I know the doofus talking that dumb shit about the "crack fueled days of the early 2000's" sounds like they been hitting the pipe their damn self with that nonsense.

Well, I used to drive home from work around dinner time through NE DC and every couple of days I would pass a swat team pulled up in a random neighborhood raiding a house. But I guess they weren't crack dens. Maybe "freedom dens" or "equity dens." But sure, DC didn't have a crack and violence problem in 2002.

Were you here in the 1980's driving through NE DC?
No?
Then STFU you have no idea what you missed - every couple of days was EVERY NIGHT at one time.

Wait, so? Your point is so stupid.

Your response it equally stupid.
Guess its a tie

"it's"

NP. Ok, maybe you did see SWAT, but the other poster is right on. The crack and “Murder Capital” days were long before the early 2000s. Things were a damn sight better in 1993 when I moved here. Not saying things were rosy, but DC was moving in a positive direction.
https://wamu.org/story/14/01/27/crack_1/

[Anonymous]

As someone who actually lives in a neighborhood that has had recent homicides, (one happened on my block) yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Obviously it would be better if they didn't happen, but it's a reality I can certainly tolerate. I don't associate with the types of people doing the shootings, I don't participate in the drug trade, I'm not part of a crew. My friends and neighbors nearby are not involved in violence in any way.

Sure, there's a tiny, tiny chance I could catch a stray bullet from a shooting unrelated to me or anyone I know, but because I understand probability and statistics I understand that that chance is so small that there is literally no point in thinking about it, much less being worried about it.

So yeah, while I find it unfortunate that knuckleheads nearby shoot each over over dumb reasons, I find it completely tolerable in the literal sense of "yes, this is something I can tolerate about living here."

The Thanksgiving turkey probably feels the same way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.

Not me.

Signed, rich white male.

We’ll see to it that changes when community policing evolves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re more likely to be a victim of police abuse than of random crime.

Defund cops.

Without taking issue with defunding cops as a policy goal, this is almost definitely not true for the mostly white residents of Friendship Heights, who may as well be invisible to the police.

They are likely to be victims of neither. That's why they have the luxury of advocating for defunding police. People who actually live in higher crime areas know how much worse it would get without a real police presence.

[Anonymous]

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As someone who actually lives in a neighborhood that has had recent homicides, (one happened on my block) yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Obviously it would be better if they didn't happen, but it's a reality I can certainly tolerate. I don't associate with the types of people doing the shootings, I don't participate in the drug trade, I'm not part of a crew. My friends and neighbors nearby are not involved in violence in any way.

Sure, there's a tiny, tiny chance I could catch a stray bullet from a shooting unrelated to me or anyone I know, but because I understand probability and statistics I understand that that chance is so small that there is literally no point in thinking about it, much less being worried about it.

So yeah, while I find it unfortunate that knuckleheads nearby shoot each over over dumb reasons, I find it completely tolerable in the literal sense of "yes, this is something I can tolerate about living here."

The Thanksgiving turkey probably feels the same way.

You buy 700,000 turkeys for Thanksgiving but only cook like 10 of them? Weird tradition but OK.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread ain’t about property crime and simple assaults it’s about SHOOTINGS.
Who’s responsible for all these damn guns out here?

I used to be very strongly against firearms, but the older I get, the more I see the real issue. Legal guns aren't the big problem. The vast majority of crimes aren't committed with legal firearms. Illegal guns are the big problem. Unfortunately most cities don't lock people up for long when they're caught with an illegal gun, and the recent "bail reform" is making things even worse. We need to get people off the street who are using (and demanding) illegal guns. The only way to do that is to lock them up for a long time.

I honestly think that if democrats supported enforcing the gun laws that we already have, we would be able to get the republican support to overturn the second amendment IF guns were still a big problem. But it won't happen until we start enforcing the laws we already have.

Ban all the guns, every last one of them, and this stuff won’t happen. If guns are banned, people won’t have them.

What does "ban" mean to you? Like are you planning on actually having any punishments when people ignore you? If so, what are they and why aren't you enforcing them now for people who are carrying non-registered/illegal guns? And if you just plan on arresting people and then releasing them the next day, what good do you think that will do?

It’s actually very simple. All we need is a bounty offered to the public to turn in others - people they know who are possessing guns after they are outlawed - and this ceases to be a problem.

If people could get a $5,000 reward for the arrest of someone who had a gun, they’d be falling all over themselves to report them. That’s how you fix this. Ban them all, then offer huge financial incentives to turn in noncompliant people.

The people that arrested get an automatic life sentence in prison or some kind of institutional colony, permanently removing them from society. Pick a undesirable location, somewhere out west maybe where nobody lives, and create a penal colony. Stick them all there. Let them toil doing menial physical labor or whatever, and if they try to escape, execute them. Such penal colonies have been used previously for hundreds of years as a means for countries to dispose of their undesirables who are a threat a civilized society. Read some some history.

All it takes is the national will to do it. Hopefully we’re headed that way.

You clearly didn't watch the video posted above. THE POLICE ARE ALREADY ARRESTING TONS OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH ILLEGAL GUNS. And the cops know from statistics that the illegal guns are the ones used in murders. The problem is that once the police arrest people, it's up to the DAs and basically the politicians to decide what to do with the people. And what's happening now is that they're just being released.

The cop in the video explained that in places where they actually enforce punishments for carrying illegal weapons, the murder rates do down dramatically. And he explained that gun crime rates are going up dramatically with bail reform (i.e. catch and release justice system that has started to roll out around the country). But the cops have no power once the people are arrested - you need to vote for people who actually want to lock people up for a long time.

I'm not sure whether we need stricter gun laws in this country. Possibly yes, and possibly no. But what's VERY clear is that we need to enforce the laws that we already have.

How about we get Congress to stop repealing the gun laws we used to have in DC? There is nothing to enforce. https://www.dcvote.org/news/house-votes-kill-dc-gun-controls