Takoma Park MD if you're not woke

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't drive a Prius or Subaru, with a "Coexist" bumper sticker on the back, you'll be ostracized.

Liberal who drives a Subaru here. I can't stand those darn Coexist bumper stickers. They strike me as so grossly performative and preachy that I get angry at an irrational level every time I see one.

+1, and I’m another liberal who drives an EV—and lives in Takoma Park. I also don’t have performative lawn signs. In fact, the bumper sticker and lawn signs are a small minority. Some pps here are channeling David Brooks’ book where he claims we’re all “frizzy-haired” profs who love to lecture others. In fact nothing could be further from the truth. In my neighborhood, one of the nicest in TPK, the only woman who gets sh!t-talked is the one who lets her cats roam free.

The pp who said that there’s a kernel of rapidity aging hippies, and the new families are relatively wealthy and here for the schools, has it right.

Agree, and I live in TKPK, too. I am not "woke" at all, and I am not even "left" on most social issues. I do think that you will find that Trump is largely hated here, so if you were big a Trump supporter, you would probably not find your people. But that's the case with most neighborhoods in the DC area. I also don't mind people disagreeing with my take on social or political issues when they do come up, so I don't feel the need to search out people with my exact beliefs. But I would say, mostly people don't talk about politics here. People come here mainly for the housing stock, decent schools, and the town feel. There are lots of very social neighbors with interesting professional and personal backgrounds, and it feels fairly suburban while being convenient to a lot of urban benefits (like museums, concerts, etc.)

This, exactly. The posters trying to scare readers with images of being button-holed, as you're walking your dog, by a banshee shrieking about abortion rights obviously don't live in TPK.

[Anonymous]

We live in Takoma DC and spend a lot of time in Takoma Park and we aren't woke, and really aren't even liberal. Sometimes I roll my eyes at certain signs, policies, or people, but really it's never been an issue. Politics rarely come up in conversation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

[Anonymous]

What does "woke" even mean today?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. This thread is years 4 years old, folks.

Not sure why it got ressurrected.

MAGA gotta stoke the culture wars!

There are plenty of us here who aren’t MAGA types, yet we roll our eyes at the TP politicians.

The world isn’t so binary.

The US is the most binary it's been in a couple generations. The Republican party is all in on Trump and his populist horror train.

Perhaps it seems that way if you are on one of the extreme ends of the spectrum. Those of us coexisting quite nicely in the middle don’t see it that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

This is the typical response I get from Takoma Park women when I try to talk about how they traumatized my family. Note the kind, accepting, and welcoming tone?

Victim-blaming is quite popular.

[Anonymous]

To put it another way: expect toxic positivity or nothing. You can't bring up any criticism of Takoma Park, or any problems your family has had with its denizens. And no, I don't mean it's poorer denizens. They're lovely. But the affluent, well-educated and best-intentioned people are some of the most narrow-minded, regressive, and downright cruel parents I've ever met. Anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

And let's just talk about how you capitalize the word "white."

You know who does that? Takoma park liberals and white supremacists. Funny, how liberal overcorrection leads to the same dismal place reached by fundies in Idaho. And by funny, I mean I'm lying: it's not funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

And let's just talk about how you capitalize the word "white."

You know who does that? Takoma park liberals and white supremacists. Funny, how liberal overcorrection leads to the same dismal place reached by fundies in Idaho. And by funny, I mean I'm lying: it's not funny.

Yeah that is a bit of a tell isn’t it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

Maybe you haven't felt pressure to be anyone besides yourself because you fit in with the women PP is talking about. My question to you is would you feel compelled to 'educate' or correct a neighbor who was not behaving in a way you see as normal and correct or would you just let it lie?

Behaviours to consider: What if your neighbor was not recycling correctly, maybe putting batteries in the regular trash? What if your neighbor wished you a "Merry Christmas" and did not realize you did not celebrate Christmas? What if your neighbor used a mosquito spraying service that could potentially negatively impact bees?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

Maybe you haven't felt pressure to be anyone besides yourself because you fit in with the women PP is talking about. My question to you is would you feel compelled to 'educate' or correct a neighbor who was not behaving in a way you see as normal and correct or would you just let it lie?

Behaviours to consider: What if your neighbor was not recycling correctly, maybe putting batteries in the regular trash? What if your neighbor wished you a "Merry Christmas" and did not realize you did not celebrate Christmas? What if your neighbor used a mosquito spraying service that could potentially negatively impact bees?

Does sound like the neighbor could use some educating in any of those three cases, is a certain ignorance there. Tbh I would silently judge then move along with my own life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

Maybe you haven't felt pressure to be anyone besides yourself because you fit in with the women PP is talking about. My question to you is would you feel compelled to 'educate' or correct a neighbor who was not behaving in a way you see as normal and correct or would you just let it lie?

Behaviours to consider: What if your neighbor was not recycling correctly, maybe putting batteries in the regular trash? What if your neighbor wished you a "Merry Christmas" and did not realize you did not celebrate Christmas? What if your neighbor used a mosquito spraying service that could potentially negatively impact bees?

Does sound like the neighbor could use some educating in any of those three cases, is a certain ignorance there. Tbh I would silently judge then move along with my own life.

Yes, I agree that in each case the neighbor is wrong, but I'd also not get involved. I feel it's not my place to do so. Some people just can't help themselves and would feel entitled to intervene.

Whether or not you think that's a good thing is a good litmus test as to whether a place like TKPK is for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

And let's just talk about how you capitalize the word "white."

You know who does that? Takoma park liberals and white supremacists. Funny, how liberal overcorrection leads to the same dismal place reached by fundies in Idaho. And by funny, I mean I'm lying: it's not funny.

DP - it triggers you to see White capitalized? Really?? Wow. Dude, it's just a convention. Calm down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you define “woke”?

Is the opposite “asleep”?

If you want to live somewhere “asleep,” maybe Reston is good for you.

Virtue signaling, dogmatic, ideological people who firmly believe they're on the right side of history and sneer at those who don't agree with them as lesser species. You know, the people who call you racist no matter what you say, transphobic no matter what you say, etc, and that you are the second coming of you know what just for daring to vote differently. They pride themselves for being tolerant and open-minded while simultaneously being the most intolerant and judgmental people.

NP: this is my experience with TPK.

My family's run afoul of them for a few "transgressions," and the experiences have honestly left me so emotionally scarred that I've stopped trying to have any relationship or interaction with our community.

Now, you may think this is a "me" problem for being thin-skinned and weak... and perhaps it is. But I'm someone who was raised in a liberal religion, went to Quaker schools, votes Democrat across the board, doesn't own guns, supports immigration, etc. On paper I am a crunchy liberal. But these people and their toxic combination of affluence and disdain and carelessness, nearly broke my family apart.

There's a very rigid expectation about behavior, perhaps especially among Takoma Park women, that many of us mortals can't meet. Everything is passive aggressive. Tone is important. You should also probably apologize for any white privilege, (or bring up any bipoc ancestors), at least ten times in every conversation. It's performative, stultifying, and not at all fun.

Could you give an example of behavior "expectations" among Takoma Park women? I'm one, and I've never felt any pressure to be anything besides myself. I'm also pretty much the opposite of passive aggressive and I never worry about tone.

What conversations have you had where you needed to apologize for white privilege 10 times in every conversation? I've never apologized to anybody in Takoma Park for being White.

None of this makes sense. I doubt you ever lived in Takoma Park. You're probably a resident MAGA who's bored and slagging off the libs.

Maybe you haven't felt pressure to be anyone besides yourself because you fit in with the women PP is talking about. My question to you is would you feel compelled to 'educate' or correct a neighbor who was not behaving in a way you see as normal and correct or would you just let it lie?

Behaviours to consider: What if your neighbor was not recycling correctly, maybe putting batteries in the regular trash? What if your neighbor wished you a "Merry Christmas" and did not realize you did not celebrate Christmas? What if your neighbor used a mosquito spraying service that could potentially negatively impact bees?

PP you're responding to. I wouldn't respond to any of these, nor would any of my neighbors. Nor have I seen these criticisms happening on the neighborhood list serve in the 20 years I've lived here.

Clearly you don't live here, so maybe it's time for you to stop making up scenarios you don't understand.