'07 DMV Boys Discussion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.

It's just aggregated a bit differently than GotSoccer, but it's all from the same source which leans heavily on teams that play lots of tournaments or has a league that tracks schedules in got soccer.

Got Soccer is based on points. So winning (or being a finalist) tournaments gets you points. Each tournament is assigned different points. You also get points for winning leagues, state cup, etc. So for example, say a team wins a tournament in the top division. They may get 1500 Got Soccer points. The finalist might get 750 and the 3rd place team zero. The champion and finalist in the 2nd flight gets points as well. and so on. however, why should the champ of the 2nd flight get more points than the 3rd place team in the top flight? So this is a problem. Youth Soccer looks at every head to head match up and they take into consideration the score. So that 3rd place team in the top division won't be "punished" for not winning under the Youth Soccer system. They can actually move up if they played a close game against better competition. To the best of my knowledge, Youth Soccer does not pull in CCL games or NPL games. It pulls in EDP and NCSL games for sure. Anyway, I think it's a much better system to look at head to head results as opposed to being based solely on points given to winning tournaments, etc.

Geez. You’ve thought about this a lot. Do you have a kid on one of the top teams listed? I do and man, I guess I’m just not paying close enough attention. It’s interesting to know that some people really do care about whether my 12 year old son and his teammates deserve to be ranked where they are. I know one thing which is that the kids don’t care, they just want to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.

It's just aggregated a bit differently than GotSoccer, but it's all from the same source which leans heavily on teams that play lots of tournaments or has a league that tracks schedules in got soccer.

Got Soccer is based on points. So winning (or being a finalist) tournaments gets you points. Each tournament is assigned different points. You also get points for winning leagues, state cup, etc. So for example, say a team wins a tournament in the top division. They may get 1500 Got Soccer points. The finalist might get 750 and the 3rd place team zero. The champion and finalist in the 2nd flight gets points as well. and so on. however, why should the champ of the 2nd flight get more points than the 3rd place team in the top flight? So this is a problem. Youth Soccer looks at every head to head match up and they take into consideration the score. So that 3rd place team in the top division won't be "punished" for not winning under the Youth Soccer system. They can actually move up if they played a close game against better competition. To the best of my knowledge, Youth Soccer does not pull in CCL games or NPL games. It pulls in EDP and NCSL games for sure. Anyway, I think it's a much better system to look at head to head results as opposed to being based solely on points given to winning tournaments, etc.

Geez. You’ve thought about this a lot. Do you have a kid on one of the top teams listed? I do and man, I guess I’m just not paying close enough attention. It’s interesting to know that some people really do care about whether my 12 year old son and his teammates deserve to be ranked where they are. I know one thing which is that the kids don’t care, they just want to play.

While I agree with you that the poster is very invested in youth soccer, I do need to let you know that the kids do care. Maybe talk to your kid once in a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.

It's just aggregated a bit differently than GotSoccer, but it's all from the same source which leans heavily on teams that play lots of tournaments or has a league that tracks schedules in got soccer.

Got Soccer is based on points. So winning (or being a finalist) tournaments gets you points. Each tournament is assigned different points. You also get points for winning leagues, state cup, etc. So for example, say a team wins a tournament in the top division. They may get 1500 Got Soccer points. The finalist might get 750 and the 3rd place team zero. The champion and finalist in the 2nd flight gets points as well. and so on. however, why should the champ of the 2nd flight get more points than the 3rd place team in the top flight? So this is a problem. Youth Soccer looks at every head to head match up and they take into consideration the score. So that 3rd place team in the top division won't be "punished" for not winning under the Youth Soccer system. They can actually move up if they played a close game against better competition. To the best of my knowledge, Youth Soccer does not pull in CCL games or NPL games. It pulls in EDP and NCSL games for sure. Anyway, I think it's a much better system to look at head to head results as opposed to being based solely on points given to winning tournaments, etc.

Geez. You’ve thought about this a lot. Do you have a kid on one of the top teams listed? I do and man, I guess I’m just not paying close enough attention. It’s interesting to know that some people really do care about whether my 12 year old son and his teammates deserve to be ranked where they are. I know one thing which is that the kids don’t care, they just want to play.

While I agree with you that the poster is very invested in youth soccer, I do need to let you know that the kids do care. Maybe talk to your kid once in a while.

It's not really much to think about. Once someone tells you how it works, it's not hard to understand. You don't have to be invested or even interested in youth soccer to understand it. Anyway...I wrote that not because I care where my son's team is ranked. I wrote it to justify why I think Youth Soccer Rankings is a better tool for tournament organizers to use to determine divisions as opposed to Got Soccer. Of course they aren't perfect but I know my son and his teammates look at these rankings and talk about them and they are proud of where they have climbed to and it motivates them to continue to work hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.

It's just aggregated a bit differently than GotSoccer, but it's all from the same source which leans heavily on teams that play lots of tournaments or has a league that tracks schedules in got soccer.

Got Soccer is based on points. So winning (or being a finalist) tournaments gets you points. Each tournament is assigned different points. You also get points for winning leagues, state cup, etc. So for example, say a team wins a tournament in the top division. They may get 1500 Got Soccer points. The finalist might get 750 and the 3rd place team zero. The champion and finalist in the 2nd flight gets points as well. and so on. however, why should the champ of the 2nd flight get more points than the 3rd place team in the top flight? So this is a problem. Youth Soccer looks at every head to head match up and they take into consideration the score. So that 3rd place team in the top division won't be "punished" for not winning under the Youth Soccer system. They can actually move up if they played a close game against better competition. To the best of my knowledge, Youth Soccer does not pull in CCL games or NPL games. It pulls in EDP and NCSL games for sure. Anyway, I think it's a much better system to look at head to head results as opposed to being based solely on points given to winning tournaments, etc.

Geez. You’ve thought about this a lot. Do you have a kid on one of the top teams listed? I do and man, I guess I’m just not paying close enough attention. It’s interesting to know that some people really do care about whether my 12 year old son and his teammates deserve to be ranked where they are. I know one thing which is that the kids don’t care, they just want to play.

While I agree with you that the poster is very invested in youth soccer, I do need to let you know that the kids do care. Maybe talk to your kid once in a while.

It's not really much to think about. Once someone tells you how it works, it's not hard to understand. You don't have to be invested or even interested in youth soccer to understand it. Anyway...I wrote that not because I care where my son's team is ranked. I wrote it to justify why I think Youth Soccer Rankings is a better tool for tournament organizers to use to determine divisions as opposed to Got Soccer. Of course they aren't perfect but I know my son and his teammates look at these rankings and talk about them and they are proud of where they have climbed to and it motivates them to continue to work hard.

And PS: No my son is not on one of the teams posted above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.

It's just aggregated a bit differently than GotSoccer, but it's all from the same source which leans heavily on teams that play lots of tournaments or has a league that tracks schedules in got soccer.

Got Soccer is based on points. So winning (or being a finalist) tournaments gets you points. Each tournament is assigned different points. You also get points for winning leagues, state cup, etc. So for example, say a team wins a tournament in the top division. They may get 1500 Got Soccer points. The finalist might get 750 and the 3rd place team zero. The champion and finalist in the 2nd flight gets points as well. and so on. however, why should the champ of the 2nd flight get more points than the 3rd place team in the top flight? So this is a problem. Youth Soccer looks at every head to head match up and they take into consideration the score. So that 3rd place team in the top division won't be "punished" for not winning under the Youth Soccer system. They can actually move up if they played a close game against better competition. To the best of my knowledge, Youth Soccer does not pull in CCL games or NPL games. It pulls in EDP and NCSL games for sure. Anyway, I think it's a much better system to look at head to head results as opposed to being based solely on points given to winning tournaments, etc.

Geez. You’ve thought about this a lot. Do you have a kid on one of the top teams listed? I do and man, I guess I’m just not paying close enough attention. It’s interesting to know that some people really do care about whether my 12 year old son and his teammates deserve to be ranked where they are. I know one thing which is that the kids don’t care, they just want to play.

While I agree with you that the poster is very invested in youth soccer, I do need to let you know that the kids do care. Maybe talk to your kid once in a while.

It's not really much to think about. Once someone tells you how it works, it's not hard to understand. You don't have to be invested or even interested in youth soccer to understand it. Anyway...I wrote that not because I care where my son's team is ranked. I wrote it to justify why I think Youth Soccer Rankings is a better tool for tournament organizers to use to determine divisions as opposed to Got Soccer. Of course they aren't perfect but I know my son and his teammates look at these rankings and talk about them and they are proud of where they have climbed to and it motivates them to continue to work hard.

Ok...right...

[Anonymous]

Can someone post the link to the local EDP league schedule that includes Alexandria Red and Springfield (SYC)? I can get to the main website just fine but I can't find the schedules for the division that includes Alexandria Red and SYC. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to the local EDP league schedule that includes Alexandria Red and Springfield (SYC)? I can get to the main website just fine but I can't find the schedules for the division that includes Alexandria Red and SYC. Thanks.

https://www.edpsoccer.com/page/show/5238375-2019-us-youth-soccer-south-atlantic-edp-conferences-schedule

[Anonymous]

Bethesda Brackets

https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=72823&Group=Boys_13

[Anonymous]

Teams seem to be randomly scattered across all the brackets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teams seem to be randomly scattered across all the brackets.

looks to me it is purely based on youth soccer rankings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teams seem to be randomly scattered across all the brackets.

looks to me it is purely based on youth soccer rankings

I've only looked U12 but that looks the method for those teams as well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teams seem to be randomly scattered across all the brackets.

looks to me it is purely based on youth soccer rankings

I've only looked U12 but that looks the method for those teams as well

Makes sense. It's the best method out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teams seem to be randomly scattered across all the brackets.

looks to me it is purely based on youth soccer rankings

I've only looked U12 but that looks the method for those teams as well

Makes sense. It's the best method out there.

Best available for now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teams seem to be randomly scattered across all the brackets.

looks to me it is purely based on youth soccer rankings

I've only looked U12 but that looks the method for those teams as well

Makes sense. It's the best method out there.

Best available for now.

Is something better coming out soon?

[Anonymous]

I find this one to be a little more accurate than gotsoccer:

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/National/All/Both/