Rose Hanbury sat at Prince William’s table

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Anonymous wrote:No ring on. Looking scandalously good.

Scandalously good? That woman looks like a stick insect. Is that what passes for good these days?

She’s a British 10...

I love that dress and she looks great, but not appropriate for buckingham palace, it's better for a gala in a warm climate.

PP. I agree. That was a joke. I feel like she is leaning into the sexy mistress image.

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't even stand seeing those Trumptards mingling with the royal family. Such a waste of important people's time.

However, it was a time for Kate to make it v clear she is numero uno around there these days and soon will be queen and the Rose's in her life can suck it.

1) she’s not numero uno...Camilla outranks her and obviously QE2 is still on the throne 2) the only person who can make the “Rose’s in her life suck it” is prince William. No sense in petty power plays when your husband is the one giving these women relevance.

No matter what happens, Kate is the mother of the future King of England. She will have all the tiaras she wants.

Lol. Not how it works. If that were the case then wouldn’t Diana have had all the tiaras the Queen currently has?

Had she not divorced, and not died, she would have had the whole collection of the Queen once the Queen dies.

That’s not the same thing as saying Kate gets the tiaras because she is the”mother of the future king.” Or does your crystal ball tell you she too will never get divorced or die?

Well, one major difference is that the Queen is now 92, so the chance of her outliving the Queen are pretty high. Not sure if Camilla will get all the royal jewelry because there's still some uncertainty about whether she'll be called Queen or Princess Consort and she's not the mother of an heir to the throne. I suppose she could get divorced or die in an untimely way, but the probabilities on either of those events are pretty low.

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't even stand seeing those Trumptards mingling with the royal family. Such a waste of important people's time.

However, it was a time for Kate to make it v clear she is numero uno around there these days and soon will be queen and the Rose's in her life can suck it.

1) she’s not numero uno...Camilla outranks her and obviously QE2 is still on the throne 2) the only person who can make the “Rose’s in her life suck it” is prince William. No sense in petty power plays when your husband is the one giving these women relevance.

No matter what happens, Kate is the mother of the future King of England. She will have all the tiaras she wants.

Lol. Not how it works. If that were the case then wouldn’t Diana have had all the tiaras the Queen currently has?

Had she not divorced, and not died, she would have had the whole collection of the Queen once the Queen dies.

That’s not the same thing as saying Kate gets the tiaras because she is the”mother of the future king.” Or does your crystal ball tell you she too will never get divorced or die?

Well, one major difference is that the Queen is now 92, so the chance of her outliving the Queen are pretty high. Not sure if Camilla will get all the royal jewelry because there's still some uncertainty about whether she'll be called Queen or Princess Consort and she's not the mother of an heir to the throne. I suppose she could get divorced or die in an untimely way, but the probabilities on either of those events are pretty low.

I'm betting that Camilla will be Queen Consort. She's put in great work since her marriage and Charles won't have it any other way. The probably 20 years of Duchess of Cornwall instead of using her Princess of Wales title is enough penance.

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't even stand seeing those Trumptards mingling with the royal family. Such a waste of important people's time.

However, it was a time for Kate to make it v clear she is numero uno around there these days and soon will be queen and the Rose's in her life can suck it.

1) she’s not numero uno...Camilla outranks her and obviously QE2 is still on the throne 2) the only person who can make the “Rose’s in her life suck it” is prince William. No sense in petty power plays when your husband is the one giving these women relevance.

No matter what happens, Kate is the mother of the future King of England. She will have all the tiaras she wants.

Lol. Not how it works. If that were the case then wouldn’t Diana have had all the tiaras the Queen currently has?

Had she not divorced, and not died, she would have had the whole collection of the Queen once the Queen dies.

That’s not the same thing as saying Kate gets the tiaras because she is the”mother of the future king.” Or does your crystal ball tell you she too will never get divorced or die?

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Well, one major difference is that the Queen is now 92, so the chance of her outliving the Queen are pretty high. Not sure if Camilla will get all the royal jewelry because there's still some uncertainty about whether she'll be called Queen or Princess Consort and she's not the mother of an heir to the throne. I suppose she could get divorced or die in an untimely way, but the probabilities on either of those events are pretty low.

If you think that Charles isn’t going to insist that Camilla be Queen consort and/or have her in a position where he has to ask Kate Middleton to borrow tiaras you are truly delusional.

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I still can't stand Camilla

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NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

Hasn't there been talk that Charles won't take the throne at all and it will go directly to William?

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

This. All of the jewelry (except small personal pieces with sentimental value like brooches) are the property of the Crown not the person.

So the Queen's crowns and tiaras go to the next monarch -- King Charles who then can allocated 'supervision' of the jewels to his Queen Consort. The same goes for William and George.

The tiaras don't just disappear out of the crown vault after a death, if they did there wouldn't be any LEFT.

What I'm interested in seeing all the crowns and coronets for a King's regalia that we haven't 'seen' in over 90 years. They're there in the vaults waiting for Charles.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

Hasn't there been talk that Charles won't take the throne at all and it will go directly to William?

Doesn't work like that. It would have to be an Act of Parliament and Charles would have to willingly give up the throne, just like his great-uncle King Edward VIII did.

Since he's already married his mistress, he has absolutely no reason to agree to that.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will have personal pieces that she will bequeath to specific heirs. I imagine all the female heirs will get something. Male heirs will likely get something which their wives will wear.

The vast bulk of the collection will be passed down to the next monarch regardless of gender. In this case, it will be Charles who inherits the collection. Camilla will have access to it. Then when Charles dies, William will inherit the collection and Kate has access to it. Just like almost all the Queen's personal art will go to Charles, and then to William, with a few bits left to the rest.

I think some of the other royal houses put the non-official state crown jewels into a foundation for the benefit of the monarch's family, so various family members can wear pieces from it subject to approval of the monarch.

It will be interesting when the Queen dies because her estate will be subject to inheritance taxation in a way her father's wasn't.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

This. All of the jewelry (except small personal pieces with sentimental value like brooches) are the property of the Crown not the person.

So the Queen's crowns and tiaras go to the next monarch -- King Charles who then can allocated 'supervision' of the jewels to his Queen Consort. The same goes for William and George.

The tiaras don't just disappear out of the crown vault after a death, if they did there wouldn't be any LEFT.

What I'm interested in seeing all the crowns and coronets for a King's regalia that we haven't 'seen' in over 90 years. They're there in the vaults waiting for Charles.

Camilla is 70+ years old. She isn't going to have "supervision of the jewels" for lon.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

This. All of the jewelry (except small personal pieces with sentimental value like brooches) are the property of the Crown not the person.

I don't think this is entirely true. We have the official crown jewels, which are owned by the state and copies of which you see in the Tower of London.

The Queen's personal jewel collection will have pieces that technically belong to the crown and the rest are her personal items. Much of the current collection was acquired by Victoria and Queen Mary, I believe, and passed down on a personal level rather than "crown" level.

I'm sure every piece in the collection is officially either crown or personal but most is the latter. Going by precedence, which is what she will do, most of the personal jewels will pass to the next monarch, Charles.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

This. All of the jewelry (except small personal pieces with sentimental value like brooches) are the property of the Crown not the person.

So the Queen's crowns and tiaras go to the next monarch -- King Charles who then can allocated 'supervision' of the jewels to his Queen Consort. The same goes for William and George.

The tiaras don't just disappear out of the crown vault after a death, if they did there wouldn't be any LEFT.

What I'm interested in seeing all the crowns and coronets for a King's regalia that we haven't 'seen' in over 90 years. They're there in the vaults waiting for Charles.

Camilla is 70+ years old. She isn't going to have "supervision of the jewels" for lon.

Camilla is 71. If she comes to the throne at 76 (Queenie dead at 101), that would mean 20 years of Queen Camilla.

Guess how old Kate will be when she becomes Queen then? That's right 60+ years old. Ageism sucks doesn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I can’t imagine Camilla getting the Queen’s jewelry collection outright. Maybe a few pieces, but the rest as a “lifetime loan” and/or with a specific provision that they go to Kate once Kate becomes queen.

The Queen will probably distribute some of the pieces she inherited from her mother and grandmother (Queen Mary, who was a magpie for jewels) but I suspect that most will be passed on to the Crown, of which Charles/Camilla will have control. There is no possibility that the Queen would bypass Camilla for Kate - that's purely delusional.

This. All of the jewelry (except small personal pieces with sentimental value like brooches) are the property of the Crown not the person.

So the Queen's crowns and tiaras go to the next monarch -- King Charles who then can allocated 'supervision' of the jewels to his Queen Consort. The same goes for William and George.

The tiaras don't just disappear out of the crown vault after a death, if they did there wouldn't be any LEFT.

What I'm interested in seeing all the crowns and coronets for a King's regalia that we haven't 'seen' in over 90 years. They're there in the vaults waiting for Charles.

Camilla is 70+ years old. She isn't going to have "supervision of the jewels" for long.

Camilla is 71. If she comes to the throne at 76 (Queenie dead at 101), that would mean 20 years of Queen Camilla.

Guess how old Kate will be when she becomes Queen then? That's right 60+ years old. Ageism sucks doesn't it?

Charles is 70. Actuarial tables would suggest he's not going to be king for 20 years.