Oyster and bancroft feed to McFarland

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

NP with no skin in the game (okay, maybe some--zoned for Deal/Wilson, but no kids in public right now although may opt back in later). I think the idea is ludicrous due to the potential impact on cross-town traffic and the environment. I still like the idea of zoned schools relatively close to one's neighborhood, and I suspect most others do too, even if they opt out for one reason or another.

We have the most amazing metro system, the envy of a hundred other cities.

And we have thousands of students trekking south to north, every single day.

Isn't it time to foster north-to-south educational experiences?

I say Wilson should welcome every kid in the city who lives within half mile of any stop along the red line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

NP with no skin in the game (okay, maybe some--zoned for Deal/Wilson, but no kids in public right now although may opt back in later). I think the idea is ludicrous due to the potential impact on cross-town traffic and the environment. I still like the idea of zoned schools relatively close to one's neighborhood, and I suspect most others do too, even if they opt out for one reason or another.

We have the most amazing metro system, the envy of a hundred other cities.

And we have thousands of students trekking south to north, every single day.

Isn't it time to foster north-to-south educational experiences?

I say Wilson should welcome every kid in the city who lives within half mile of any stop along the red line.

And, to make that possible and to alleviate all the problems listed above, Deal should feed into Eastern High.

It's quite obvious once you think of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

If you cannot see the difference between sending kids to a school that is closer to them than their current school vs. sending kids to a school that is further away, and you cannot see the difference between feeding all elementary schools with the same curriculum to a single middle and high school that have room to accommodate them versus what you've "proposed" then I don't really know how to help you. But you are not making a serious proposal here. You are just making the best argument you can against your kid going somewhere other than Wilson--it's just a bad argument. And I get it. You like the option of Wilson. But at some point DCPS is going to realize that not all kids with rights to Wilson will fit there, and they will start making tough choices.

Closer to whom? Wilson is 2.5 miles from Oyster. Roosevelt is 3.1 miles from Oyster. You are loud and wrong.

Would you mind looking up the distance between the SE boundary of Deal and Eastern High?

I bet it's less than 3.1 miles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

If you cannot see the difference between sending kids to a school that is closer to them than their current school vs. sending kids to a school that is further away, and you cannot see the difference between feeding all elementary schools with the same curriculum to a single middle and high school that have room to accommodate them versus what you've "proposed" then I don't really know how to help you. But you are not making a serious proposal here. You are just making the best argument you can against your kid going somewhere other than Wilson--it's just a bad argument. And I get it. You like the option of Wilson. But at some point DCPS is going to realize that not all kids with rights to Wilson will fit there, and they will start making tough choices.

Closer to whom? Wilson is 2.5 miles from Oyster. Roosevelt is 3.1 miles from Oyster. You are loud and wrong.

Would you mind looking up the distance between the SE boundary of Deal and Eastern High?

I bet it's less than 3.1 miles.

I’m the person who posted the distance between Oyster and the two high schools. I haven’t posted anything about Eastern HS. The fact remains that Oyster is closer to Wilson than Roosevelt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

If you cannot see the difference between sending kids to a school that is closer to them than their current school vs. sending kids to a school that is further away, and you cannot see the difference between feeding all elementary schools with the same curriculum to a single middle and high school that have room to accommodate them versus what you've "proposed" then I don't really know how to help you. But you are not making a serious proposal here. You are just making the best argument you can against your kid going somewhere other than Wilson--it's just a bad argument. And I get it. You like the option of Wilson. But at some point DCPS is going to realize that not all kids with rights to Wilson will fit there, and they will start making tough choices.

Closer to whom? Wilson is 2.5 miles from Oyster. Roosevelt is 3.1 miles from Oyster. You are loud and wrong.

Would you mind looking up the distance between the SE boundary of Deal and Eastern High?

I bet it's less than 3.1 miles.

It’s 8 miles. Wtf are you all entertaining this troll(s)?!

[Anonymous]

Agreed this is a troll idea. Or someone who believes in bussing and not in neighborhood schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oyster-Adams already includes a middle school. The middle school was a big and successful project. Undoing that a few years after all that effort is not going to happen. Also, Oyster-Adams already feeds into Roosevelt. Sutdents have a right to go to either Wilson or Roosevelt (if they want to continue dual language). Oyster-Adams students spread out to a lot of different high schools. Not that many go to Wilson.

I cannot see a number for the amount of kids that go to Wilson from Oyster Adams. But getting rid of the Wilson feed seems like a good idea, especially if not that many even go to Wilson. And if the elementary school kids can choose Deal or Oyster Adams, they should switch that choice to Cardozo or Oyster Adams.

The high school feed should be Roosevelt, so the Adams kids can meet up with all the other kids from DCPS' bilingual elementaries.

In all my years as an Oyster-Adams parent, I have never heard any Adams students (or parents) express interest in “meeting up with all the other kids from DCPS' bilingual elementaries.” That’s not a priority for us.

[Anonymous]

NP. I think the Deal -> Eastern idea is visionary. I'm pretty sure DCPS is already looking into this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I think the Deal -> Eastern idea is visionary. I'm pretty sure DCPS is already looking into this.

Call trolls out where you see them. Even “NP” ones.

[Anonymous]

Another troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agreed this is a troll idea. Or someone who believes in bussing and not in neighborhood schools.

over 50% of DC kids do NOT attend a school that would be considered close to their house. This is all due to charters, lottery etc. Is easy to advocate for neigborhood schools when you live in walking distance to Deal or Janney or wilson, I guess the rest of us are the problem?

[Anonymous]

So you don’t believe in the neighborhood school model?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agreed this is a troll idea. Or someone who believes in bussing and not in neighborhood schools.

over 50% of DC kids do NOT attend a school that would be considered close to their house. This is all due to charters, lottery etc. Is easy to advocate for neigborhood schools when you live in walking distance to Deal or Janney or wilson, I guess the rest of us are the problem?

Well said.

As a poster said above, Deal feeding into Eastern is a visionary idea.

Or maybe better Deal --> Roosevelt?

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them" -- Einstein

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another troll.

OP is indeed a troll.

[Anonymous]

So someone living 50 steps from Deal would commute to Eastern?