Oyster and bancroft feed to McFarland

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A large number of Wilson’s Hispanics come from Adams. Sending them to Roosevelt would reduce Wilson’s racial and ethnic diversity.

So what?

Can you articulate why Wilson requires ### percentage of Hispanic students? How many Arabic-speaking students attend Wilson? Cantonese? Russian? What is the correct number of these groups, in your worldview?


I really don't understand why we as a city get fixated on the "Diversity Pie Chart Must Equal _____" question. Forty years ago, Wilson probably had 3% Hispanic students. Forty years from now, Wilson will probably have more Asian students than "white" or Hispanic students, if demographic trends continue.

Things change. Relax. Enjoy the ride and embrace new opportunities, such as feeding to a new high school.

You’re ill-informed and late to this party. Adams feeds to Wilson AND Roosevelt already (as a programmatic immersion feeder). Pretty much zero Adams grads choose to continue their education at Roosevelt. Happy now? If not, too bad.

There were also no Eaton kids opting for Hardy over Deal 5 years ago. They are now that they only feed to Hardy.

False equivalence. Eaton did NOT feed to Hardy 5 years ago. Adams has fed to Roosevelt for several years now, and less than 5 students total have chosen Roosevelt in as many years.

This back and forth is a waste of time. Adams is not going to lose the Wilson feed. Do you have any other pipe dreams that you would like to discuss?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A large number of Wilson’s Hispanics come from Adams. Sending them to Roosevelt would reduce Wilson’s racial and ethnic diversity.

So what?

Can you articulate why Wilson requires ### percentage of Hispanic students? How many Arabic-speaking students attend Wilson? Cantonese? Russian? What is the correct number of these groups, in your worldview?


I really don't understand why we as a city get fixated on the "Diversity Pie Chart Must Equal _____" question. Forty years ago, Wilson probably had 3% Hispanic students. Forty years from now, Wilson will probably have more Asian students than "white" or Hispanic students, if demographic trends continue.

Things change. Relax. Enjoy the ride and embrace new opportunities, such as feeding to a new high school.

You’re ill-informed and late to this party. Adams feeds to Wilson AND Roosevelt already (as a programmatic immersion feeder). Pretty much zero Adams grads choose to continue their education at Roosevelt. Happy now? If not, too bad.

There were also no Eaton kids opting for Hardy over Deal 5 years ago. They are now that they only feed to Hardy.

False equivalence. Eaton did NOT feed to Hardy 5 years ago. Adams has fed to Roosevelt for several years now, and less than 5 students total have chosen Roosevelt in as many years.

This back and forth is a waste of time. Adams is not going to lose the Wilson feed. Do you have any other pipe dreams that you would like to discuss?

Deal should feed into Eastern.

There. One simple decision, and we fix Deal, Wilson and Eastern at the same time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A large number of Wilson’s Hispanics come from Adams. Sending them to Roosevelt would reduce Wilson’s racial and ethnic diversity.

So what?

Can you articulate why Wilson requires ### percentage of Hispanic students? How many Arabic-speaking students attend Wilson? Cantonese? Russian? What is the correct number of these groups, in your worldview?


I really don't understand why we as a city get fixated on the "Diversity Pie Chart Must Equal _____" question. Forty years ago, Wilson probably had 3% Hispanic students. Forty years from now, Wilson will probably have more Asian students than "white" or Hispanic students, if demographic trends continue.

Things change. Relax. Enjoy the ride and embrace new opportunities, such as feeding to a new high school.

You’re ill-informed and late to this party. Adams feeds to Wilson AND Roosevelt already (as a programmatic immersion feeder). Pretty much zero Adams grads choose to continue their education at Roosevelt. Happy now? If not, too bad.

There were also no Eaton kids opting for Hardy over Deal 5 years ago. They are now that they only feed to Hardy.

False equivalence. Eaton did NOT feed to Hardy 5 years ago. Adams has fed to Roosevelt for several years now, and less than 5 students total have chosen Roosevelt in as many years.

This back and forth is a waste of time. Adams is not going to lose the Wilson feed. Do you have any other pipe dreams that you would like to discuss?

Deal should feed into Eastern.

There. One simple decision, and we fix Deal, Wilson and Eastern at the same time.

Great idea! And Janney and Hearst should feed into Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A large number of Wilson’s Hispanics come from Adams. Sending them to Roosevelt would reduce Wilson’s racial and ethnic diversity.

So what?

Can you articulate why Wilson requires ### percentage of Hispanic students? How many Arabic-speaking students attend Wilson? Cantonese? Russian? What is the correct number of these groups, in your worldview?


I really don't understand why we as a city get fixated on the "Diversity Pie Chart Must Equal _____" question. Forty years ago, Wilson probably had 3% Hispanic students. Forty years from now, Wilson will probably have more Asian students than "white" or Hispanic students, if demographic trends continue.

Things change. Relax. Enjoy the ride and embrace new opportunities, such as feeding to a new high school.

You’re ill-informed and late to this party. Adams feeds to Wilson AND Roosevelt already (as a programmatic immersion feeder). Pretty much zero Adams grads choose to continue their education at Roosevelt. Happy now? If not, too bad.

There were also no Eaton kids opting for Hardy over Deal 5 years ago. They are now that they only feed to Hardy.

False equivalence. Eaton did NOT feed to Hardy 5 years ago. Adams has fed to Roosevelt for several years now, and less than 5 students total have chosen Roosevelt in as many years.

This back and forth is a waste of time. Adams is not going to lose the Wilson feed. Do you have any other pipe dreams that you would like to discuss?

Deal should feed into Eastern.

There. One simple decision, and we fix Deal, Wilson and Eastern at the same time.

Great idea! And Janney and Hearst should feed into Hardy.

The reverse would be more practical.

Hardy feeds into Janney.

And then both feed into Eastern too.

Or perhaps Ballou -- that Trump megabuilding feels a bit lonely these days.

[Anonymous]

If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Not gonna happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A large number of Wilson’s Hispanics come from Adams. Sending them to Roosevelt would reduce Wilson’s racial and ethnic diversity.

So what?

Can you articulate why Wilson requires ### percentage of Hispanic students? How many Arabic-speaking students attend Wilson? Cantonese? Russian? What is the correct number of these groups, in your worldview?


I really don't understand why we as a city get fixated on the "Diversity Pie Chart Must Equal _____" question. Forty years ago, Wilson probably had 3% Hispanic students. Forty years from now, Wilson will probably have more Asian students than "white" or Hispanic students, if demographic trends continue.

Things change. Relax. Enjoy the ride and embrace new opportunities, such as feeding to a new high school.

You’re ill-informed and late to this party. Adams feeds to Wilson AND Roosevelt already (as a programmatic immersion feeder). Pretty much zero Adams grads choose to continue their education at Roosevelt. Happy now? If not, too bad.

There were also no Eaton kids opting for Hardy over Deal 5 years ago. They are now that they only feed to Hardy.

False equivalence. Eaton did NOT feed to Hardy 5 years ago. Adams has fed to Roosevelt for several years now, and less than 5 students total have chosen Roosevelt in as many years.

This back and forth is a waste of time. Adams is not going to lose the Wilson feed. Do you have any other pipe dreams that you would like to discuss?

Yes, Eaton fed to both Hardy and Deal and I believe ZERO opted for Hardy. That’s the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

NP with no skin in the game (okay, maybe some--zoned for Deal/Wilson, but no kids in public right now although may opt back in later). I think the idea is ludicrous due to the potential impact on cross-town traffic and the environment. I still like the idea of zoned schools relatively close to one's neighborhood, and I suspect most others do too, even if they opt out for one reason or another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

If you cannot see the difference between sending kids to a school that is closer to them than their current school vs. sending kids to a school that is further away, and you cannot see the difference between feeding all elementary schools with the same curriculum to a single middle and high school that have room to accommodate them versus what you've "proposed" then I don't really know how to help you. But you are not making a serious proposal here. You are just making the best argument you can against your kid going somewhere other than Wilson--it's just a bad argument. And I get it. You like the option of Wilson. But at some point DCPS is going to realize that not all kids with rights to Wilson will fit there, and they will start making tough choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A large number of Wilson’s Hispanics come from Adams. Sending them to Roosevelt would reduce Wilson’s racial and ethnic diversity.

So what?

Can you articulate why Wilson requires ### percentage of Hispanic students? How many Arabic-speaking students attend Wilson? Cantonese? Russian? What is the correct number of these groups, in your worldview?


I really don't understand why we as a city get fixated on the "Diversity Pie Chart Must Equal _____" question. Forty years ago, Wilson probably had 3% Hispanic students. Forty years from now, Wilson will probably have more Asian students than "white" or Hispanic students, if demographic trends continue.

Things change. Relax. Enjoy the ride and embrace new opportunities, such as feeding to a new high school.

You’re ill-informed and late to this party. Adams feeds to Wilson AND Roosevelt already (as a programmatic immersion feeder). Pretty much zero Adams grads choose to continue their education at Roosevelt. Happy now? If not, too bad.

There were also no Eaton kids opting for Hardy over Deal 5 years ago. They are now that they only feed to Hardy.

False equivalence. Eaton did NOT feed to Hardy 5 years ago. Adams has fed to Roosevelt for several years now, and less than 5 students total have chosen Roosevelt in as many years.

This back and forth is a waste of time. Adams is not going to lose the Wilson feed. Do you have any other pipe dreams that you would like to discuss?

Yes, Eaton fed to both Hardy and Deal and I believe ZERO opted for Hardy. That’s the point.

Wrong. Eaton fed to Deal. That ended. Now it feeds to Hardy.

Oyster losing the Wilson feed is still not gonna happen. The End.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

If you cannot see the difference between sending kids to a school that is closer to them than their current school vs. sending kids to a school that is further away, and you cannot see the difference between feeding all elementary schools with the same curriculum to a single middle and high school that have room to accommodate them versus what you've "proposed" then I don't really know how to help you. But you are not making a serious proposal here. You are just making the best argument you can against your kid going somewhere other than Wilson--it's just a bad argument. And I get it. You like the option of Wilson. But at some point DCPS is going to realize that not all kids with rights to Wilson will fit there, and they will start making tough choices.

Closer to whom? Wilson is 2.5 miles from Oyster. Roosevelt is 3.1 miles from Oyster. You are loud and wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A large number of Wilson’s Hispanics come from Adams. Sending them to Roosevelt would reduce Wilson’s racial and ethnic diversity.

So what?

Can you articulate why Wilson requires ### percentage of Hispanic students? How many Arabic-speaking students attend Wilson? Cantonese? Russian? What is the correct number of these groups, in your worldview?


I really don't understand why we as a city get fixated on the "Diversity Pie Chart Must Equal _____" question. Forty years ago, Wilson probably had 3% Hispanic students. Forty years from now, Wilson will probably have more Asian students than "white" or Hispanic students, if demographic trends continue.

Things change. Relax. Enjoy the ride and embrace new opportunities, such as feeding to a new high school.

You’re ill-informed and late to this party. Adams feeds to Wilson AND Roosevelt already (as a programmatic immersion feeder). Pretty much zero Adams grads choose to continue their education at Roosevelt. Happy now? If not, too bad.

There were also no Eaton kids opting for Hardy over Deal 5 years ago. They are now that they only feed to Hardy.

False equivalence. Eaton did NOT feed to Hardy 5 years ago. Adams has fed to Roosevelt for several years now, and less than 5 students total have chosen Roosevelt in as many years.

This back and forth is a waste of time. Adams is not going to lose the Wilson feed. Do you have any other pipe dreams that you would like to discuss?

Yes, Eaton fed to both Hardy and Deal and I believe ZERO opted for Hardy. That’s the point.

Wrong. Eaton fed to Deal. That ended. Now it feeds to Hardy.

Oyster losing the Wilson feed is still not gonna happen. The End.

Sorry PP, you’re wrong. It had dual feeder to both.

[Anonymous]

*dual for a few years, in which nobody opted for Hardy > Deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your best responses to an idea are "it's not going to happen" and "instead you should do a completely ludicrous thing" you have probably realized that the idea could be compelling to decisionmakers.

You don't have to like it--most people who've been zoned out of Wilson didn't like that--but not everyone can go to Wilson, and it makes sense for the schools furthest from Wilson to go to schools that are closer.

In addition to Oyster and Bancroft going to Roosevelt, DCPS should also end the rule that OOB kids can continue along the feeder pattern past the terminal grade of the school they lotteried into. Those two changes alone would solve overcrowding--and allow for OOB spots at Wilson to be distributed through the lottery, so OA families would still have a chance at attending.

Dear PP, why are you so defensive?

I don't find the Deal --?Eastern idea ludicrous at all.

Please take the time to consider it, and to respond with arguments. If not, I'm afraid you have none and this is the kind of masterstroke that brave DC policy makers could well embrace.

Having Deal feed into Eastern would, at the same time:
-- alleviate Wilson's overcrowding for decades to come
-- give Eastern a chance to succeed, to become a great city-wide high school
-- help end decades if not centuries of segregation
-- teach Deal students very important socio-emotional skills
-- open up capacity in Wilson for a lottery offering spots to kids impacted by the opioid crisis

I know there are some arguments against, but frankly they are pretty petty compared to the awesome vision right above.

NP with no skin in the game (okay, maybe some--zoned for Deal/Wilson, but no kids in public right now although may opt back in later). I think the idea is ludicrous due to the potential impact on cross-town traffic and the environment. I still like the idea of zoned schools relatively close to one's neighborhood, and I suspect most others do too, even if they opt out for one reason or another.

We have the most amazing metro system, the envy of a hundred other cities.

And we have thousands of students trekking south to north, every single day.

Isn't it time to foster north-to-south educational experiences?

I say Wilson should welcome every kid in the city who lives within half mile of any stop along the red line.