How has MoCo declined since you’ve lived here?

[Anonymous]

Yes over 50 years it has become so open minded that people’s brains have fallen out. Too liberal, no balance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best schools in the area. Most diverse county
What more can you ask?

When I grew up here in the 80s, it used to be that all the schools were of good or better quality. That's no longer true. The top echelon has remained the top, but the rest have fallen significantly.

False. Wheaton HS sucked in 80s after Peary closed. Wheaton has much improved since then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best schools in the area. Most diverse county
What more can you ask?

When I grew up here in the 80s, it used to be that all the schools were of good or better quality. That's no longer true. The top echelon has remained the top, but the rest have fallen significantly.

How do you explain this?
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/press/index.aspx?pagetype=showrelease&id=8161&type=&startYear=&pageNumber=&mode=

In DCUM fantasy land, MCPS is bad, failing...but in the REAL world, MCPS leads, dominates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best schools in the area. Most diverse county
What more can you ask?

When I grew up here in the 80s, it used to be that all the schools were of good or better quality. That's no longer true. The top echelon has remained the top, but the rest have fallen significantly.

False. Wheaton HS sucked in 80s after Peary closed. Wheaton has much improved since then.

Exactly
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-takes-first-place-in-ranking-on-college-preparedness-stem-career-readiness/
And another metric MCPS dominates.

[Anonymous]

The very smartest kids are in Montgomery that's why it's 36-4 against nova in its academic the last 40 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The very smartest kids are in Montgomery that's why it's 36-4 against nova in its academic the last 40 years.

This is an incoherent mess of a post. What was that about how strong MoCo schools are, again?

[Anonymous]

I think I win in terms of length of time in MoCo. My parents moved to Wheaton in 1959, when I was 1. Our first neighborhood was a mix of working class families (with the Dads having completed high school) and professional middle class families (with Dads having completed college). The homes were all single family 3-bedroom, 1-bath homes with a car in every driveway.

By 1970, we moved into an upper-middle class Wheaton neighborhood, with five- and six-bedroom houses, walking distance to a country club and near the horse stables. Our parents were all college grads, and kids all took tennis and golf lessons at the club (and the more adventurous of us took riding lessons). Some went to private school, but most went to the perfectly decent public school.

My parents still live in that house, now almost 50 years later. Multiple (probably illegal) immigrant families double and triple up, and there are five and six cars in front of many houses. The country club is long gone, for sure. The high school is more than 70% FARMS, a very high percentage ESOL, and is rated dead last in the county, at a 3. Because of that, you can pick up a 3,000 SF house for around $400k. The nearby strip shopping center is full of trash, empty liquor bottles, and sometimes dirty diapers.

So my area of MoCo has gone downhill, waaaaaay downhill.

[Anonymous]

My area of MoCo is beautiful and livable, and my business benefits from the diverse set of people that live here.



When I look at the immigrants around, documented or not, I think of how they boost our economy and I'm glad to have them.

IMMIGRANTS INCREASE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND CONTRIBUTE TO GOVERNMENT COFFERS
Less controversial is the effect of immigration on economic growth. Economists across the political spectrum generally agree that immigration increases both economic output and economic growth rates. High-skilled immigrants also significantly increase innovation in the U.S.; according to the Hamilton Project researchers, economists have found that "[a] one percentage point increase in the college-educated or advanced degree-holding immigrant shares of the U.S. population are estimated to produce a 12.3 percent or 27 percent increase in patenting per capita, respectively."
https://psmag.com/social-justice/more-research-finds-that-immigrants-increase-economic-growth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My area of MoCo is beautiful and livable, and my business benefits from the diverse set of people that live here.



When I look at the immigrants around, documented or not, I think of how they boost our economy and I'm glad to have them.

IMMIGRANTS INCREASE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND CONTRIBUTE TO GOVERNMENT COFFERS
Less controversial is the effect of immigration on economic growth. Economists across the political spectrum generally agree that immigration increases both economic output and economic growth rates. High-skilled immigrants also significantly increase innovation in the U.S.; according to the Hamilton Project researchers, economists have found that "[a] one percentage point increase in the college-educated or advanced degree-holding immigrant shares of the U.S. population are estimated to produce a 12.3 percent or 27 percent increase in patenting per capita, respectively."
https://psmag.com/social-justice/more-research-finds-that-immigrants-increase-economic-growth

Notice PP, it says highly skilled immigrants. Nice try trying to spin it there, those undocumented immigrants that you like are the ones who aren’t highly skilled white collar professionals. I notice that reading & comprehending at the same time seems to be difficult for you, so I’ll help you out. If an area imports highly skilled immigrants it benefits because it’s like having more upwardly mobile people who socioeconomically would do well anywhere. However, if an area imports too many unskilled, undocumented & often impoverished people, the area will suffer because of its drain on resources (schools, healthcare, social services, tighter budgets for roads, etc). Some of us are not anti-immigrants, we are anti-unskilled & importing impoverished people. Diversity is great when it’s not resource draining & people are contributing to the economy as your article points out for highly skilled & educated immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Yeah that article does not apply to the people cramming entire extended families into one house

Wheaton pp, I moved to Wheaton in 2018 and hope to be a part of its comeback

[Anonymous]

Basically everything people talk about when it comes to the decline of Moco is replacing middle class people with low income low educated immigrants

[Anonymous]

OP, what is the point of this exercise? Just whinging about changing demographics? Or is there an actual goal here?

[Anonymous]

Growing up in the 80s, MOCO was more desirable. My 3 jobs in the DC area have been in NW DC and Arlington.

MOCO feels more like a bedroom community compared to DC and even Arlington/Tysons, both of which are covered in construction cranes. Still a lot of the old DC area wealth but very little being created currently. Schools are falling but still among the best in the country. The corruption has stayed steady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The very smartest kids are in Montgomery that's why it's 36-4 against nova in its academic the last 40 years.

This is an incoherent mess of a post. What was that about how strong MoCo schools are, again?

They are the strongest in the area, hence the domination. It's not even close. ..

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-takes-first-place-in-ranking-on-college-preparedness-stem-career-readiness/

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/press/index.aspx?pagetype=showrelease&id=8161&type=&startYear=&pageNumber=&mode=

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think I win in terms of length of time in MoCo. My parents moved to Wheaton in 1959, when I was 1. Our first neighborhood was a mix of working class families (with the Dads having completed high school) and professional middle class families (with Dads having completed college). The homes were all single family 3-bedroom, 1-bath homes with a car in every driveway.

By 1970, we moved into an upper-middle class Wheaton neighborhood, with five- and six-bedroom houses, walking distance to a country club and near the horse stables. Our parents were all college grads, and kids all took tennis and golf lessons at the club (and the more adventurous of us took riding lessons). Some went to private school, but most went to the perfectly decent public school.

My parents still live in that house, now almost 50 years later. Multiple (probably illegal) immigrant families double and triple up, and there are five and six cars in front of many houses. The country club is long gone, for sure. The high school is more than 70% FARMS, a very high percentage ESOL, and is rated dead last in the county, at a 3. Because of that, you can pick up a 3,000 SF house for around $400k. The nearby strip shopping center is full of trash, empty liquor bottles, and sometimes dirty diapers.

So my area of MoCo has gone downhill, waaaaaay downhill.

Let me guess. You're white?

Wow, I'm soooo sorry your wealthy Country Club suburb has been infested by brown people.
And notice how PP describes her ideal MoCo as full of single (probably white) family homes where DADS (as opposed to Moms) were educated and brought home the bacon. Were there wives all June Cleavers who stayed home vacuuming in pearls?

Why don't we build a wall and keep all the immigrants and brown people out and keep your 1950s fantasy world in? #MAGA.
And you people think Elrich is the NIMBY. smh.