Jim Jordan accused of overlooking sexual abuse as Ohio State wrestling coach

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I bet you haven’t heard about the wrestlers who are defending Jordan and even questioning whether abuse occurred. Interesting that these allegations come out well after the alleged assailant has died.

George Pardos, who left the Marine Corps to wrestle at Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said the same. There were always rumors about the doctor who showered with the team, Pardos told me, “but [a] lot of the stories were just running jokes.” Older than most of the other wrestlers because of his time enlisted, Pardos said he served as “an unofficial team captain” and can’t recall hearing a single allegation of abuse.

And while Pardos noted that Jordan “literally carried me” to get medical treatment after an injury and checked another teammate into rehab for drug abuse, the two weren’t exactly best friends. “Let me say this,” he said after a pause during a long phone interview, “me and Jimmy didn’t really get along. He didn’t really like me a lot.”

But while the two “butted heads” over religion and politics, Pardos insisted Jordan was incapable of ignoring abuse. If the assistant coach knew Strauss was abusing students, Pardos tells me, “knowing Jimmy I think he would’ve ripped of his arm and beat him with it.”

Jude Skove agreed albeit in somewhat less violent terms. He wrestled at Ohio State from 1981 to 1986 and would win a Division 1 National Championship one year before Jordan joined the team as assistant coach. During his five years wrestling, including his three as team captain, Skove says none of his teammates “ever came to me and ever expressed any issues or concerns.”

“Strauss was known to be a little weird. He would take two showers in one day, and we’d just laugh it off like ‘really doc?’” Skove recalls. “He’s our team physician, so he’s giving you physicals, and he’s touched you everywhere, doing the cough thing. But he never, just in my experience with my peers, he never crossed a line.”

Skove, who wrestled and trained with Jordan at the East-West tournament when the congressman was a student at the University of Wisconsin, couldn’t imagine Jordan ignoring abuse. “He definitely would’ve represented the wrestlers. From what I know of Jim and his personality, he’s not a flower. He isn’t going to wilt if something’s going on.”

Some like Lee Kemp, a gold-medal Olympian and national champion, argue that accusations are part of campaign to discredit Jordan now that the Ohio Republican is considering a bid for House Speaker. “This doctor worked with other sports teams too,” Kemp told me by phone. “Why pick out Jim? Clearly, this is an attempt to smear him.”

Kemp takes credit for recruiting Jordan to the University of Wisconsin as a student and said in an earlier statement that the idea “Jim would know of abuse of his wrestlers and do nothing is utterly absurd.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/former-coaches-wrestlers-and-colleagues-rush-to-defend-rep-jim-jordan

A former wrestler is speaking out in support of his former coaches who some say turned a blind eye to sexual abuse.

George Pardos said he has met with the independent investigative team who is interviewing former student athletes and coaches as allegations swirl regarding former team doctor Richard Strauss.

Some athletes have talked about sexual misconduct dating back to the 1970s against Strauss, who killed himself in 2005 and only now is under investigation.
Pardos, who first wrestled in the United States Marines, and then for Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said he never experienced sexual abuse.
“I have had 20 or so examinations with Strauss over the five years and not one time did he act inappropriately toward me. I had to be in there completely naked. Not one time did he do anything that I could deem inappropriate. If there was abuse, coaches would have had to go to law enforcement.Abuse and inappropriate are two different things,” said Pardos. “Even though there’s some things that might be inappropriate, do they rise to a level of sexual abuse ? I don’t think it did.”

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/former-wrestler-speaks-out-in-support-of-his-former-coaches-during-strauss-investigation

"There were always rumors"...the doctor "was known to be a little weird"....he would "take two showers a day"...

And 5 former wrestlers speaking out. Yet you think they are conspiring together and lying.

Why do cons on the one hand have an easy time believing in Pizza Gate but on the other refuse to believe accustations of sexual abuse victims?

I have to say the doctor's suicide makes me tend to believe the 5 accusers even more. He obviously had problems.

+1. Also, wasn't Jordan all over Rosenstein in part because Rosenstein didn't monitor the people around him?

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How do we know Jordan isn't another Hastert? We don't but the fact that he originally denied any knowledge and then changing to, "I thought they were joking," makes me wonder! Who jokes about sexual harassment/assault?

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Anonymous wrote:Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

You may not like Jordan, but “cowardly” is not a word most would use to describe him.

DP. I don't like Jordan, but at this point, cowardly is probably the kindest word that can describe his behavior. It's that bad.

No, it really isn’t.
He has stated he had no knowledge of any abuse. Several wrestlers have publicly made comments standing behind him, and the ONE person who said he approached Jordan with allegations and someone witnessed this interaction ---- well, surprise, surprise - that person has served time in prison for fraud. Oh, and that witness? He denied witnessing any such interaction.
It’s a bunch of baloney.

That’s definitely why it’s someone else’s fault, that even though OSU has come out and said they absolutely sent him emails, he says he never received them because they went to a dummy address. Who gives a dummy address to their employer?

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200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

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Anonymous wrote:200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

especially in the Big Ten. Those are the toughest wrestlers in the country and often do MMA after college. That doctor would have ended up snapped in half.

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Anonymous wrote:200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

Are you sure all these victims were in the 200 lb weight class? Weight classes in that division start at 125.

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Also, as has been stated before, one of the guys said the abuse started at age 14. He was not a 200 lb adult wrestler.

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Anonymous wrote:200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

Are you sure all these victims were in the 200 lb weight class? Weight classes in that division start at 125.

I wrestled in college. A 125 lb adult big ten wrestler can kill somebody easily. And the lethality goes up from there.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, as has been stated before, one of the guys said the abuse started at age 14. He was not a 200 lb adult wrestler.

1) that has nothing to do with Ohio state since they are all adults by the time the season starts.

2) even a 14 year old wrestler destined for the big ten could mangle a pudgy ass doctor.

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Anonymous wrote:200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

Are you sure all these victims were in the 200 lb weight class? Weight classes in that division start at 125.

I wrestled in college. A 125 lb adult big ten wrestler can kill somebody easily. And the lethality goes up from there.

My husband and my dad both wrestled in college. My son wrestles. I'm not arguing that these guys couldn't have beat the doctor's ass--they probably could've. However, people are arguing that the accusers were 200 pound adults and therefore it's on them for not doing stopping the doctor. One of the guys said he "wasn't having it" when the doctor tried to pull down his shorts, and he DID tell his coach, a mandatory reporter, about what was going on, and the coach did nothing.

Also, if one of the guys was being abused at age 14, he was not a Big Ten wrestler.

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Anonymous wrote:200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

Are you sure all these victims were in the 200 lb weight class? Weight classes in that division start at 125.

I wrestled in college. A 125 lb adult big ten wrestler can kill somebody easily. And the lethality goes up from there.

My husband and my dad both wrestled in college. My son wrestles. I'm not arguing that these guys couldn't have beat the doctor's ass--they probably could've. However, people are arguing that the accusers were 200 pound adults and therefore it's on them for not doing stopping the doctor. One of the guys said he "wasn't having it" when the doctor tried to pull down his shorts, and he DID tell his coach, a mandatory reporter, about what was going on, and the coach did nothing.

Also, if one of the guys was being abused at age 14, he was not a Big Ten wrestler.

14 year olds aren't at Ohio state.

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Adults don't "tell their coach" if it's a serious sexual assault. They tell the police. Children may not know any better. Apparently it didn't bother the adult wrestlers who could have snapped the doctor in half enough to file a police report.

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Anonymous wrote:Adults don't "tell their coach" if it's a serious sexual assault. They tell the police. Children may not know any better. Apparently it didn't bother the adult wrestlers who could have snapped the doctor in half enough to file a police report.

Now we have a seriously shameless smear campaign of victim shaming going on. It wasn't bad enough that these wrestlers were sexually harrassed, they're also being denied their maturity and masculinity. At the same time that we are supposed to practice more civility, they are being faulted for not committing a gruesome homicide in defense. All in an effort to protect Dirty Jim.

It's not going to work.

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Anonymous wrote:200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

Jordan wrestled at 135. He’s a lightweight little punk. And there are wrestlers smaller than that.

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Anonymous wrote:200 lb adult wrestlers can't defend themselves? That's the dumbest, most illogical senario I can imagine.

Are you sure all these victims were in the 200 lb weight class? Weight classes in that division start at 125.

I wrestled in college. A 125 lb adult big ten wrestler can kill somebody easily. And the lethality goes up from there.

Oh please. That’s the size of a middle schooler. These wrestlers can’t hold their own against larger people; That’s why they have weight classes. Very few college men are tiny enough to wrestle.